What do we do next?
From Iraq to the Senate Floor with Brian McGinnisHe broke his arm at a Senate hearing and called it worth it. Brian McGinnis deployed to Iraq in 2003, ran into burning buildings as a firefighter, and in March 2026 had his arm broken by Capitol Police while protesting U.S. military action at a Senate hearing. He walked away without regrets. That moment did not create his conviction. It revealed it. This episode is for anyone who has felt the weight of watching things get worse and wondered what they are supposed to do about it. Brian's story is a reminder that ordinary people with real lives and real stakes can step into the arena and mean it. Brian McGinnis is a Marine veteran, Raleigh firefighter, father of four, and Green Party candidate for U.S. Senate in North Carolina. He is running without a single dollar of corporate or PAC money, and he joined host Molly Ruland on What Do We Do Next? to talk about war, conscience, community, and what it actually looks like to turn depression into action. Key Takeaways Brian's decision to run for Senate grew directly from his grief over the war in Gaza, which became personal after he fell in love with and married a Palestinian-American woman he met through the fire department. He argues that the two-party system is not broken but is working exactly as designed, serving the donors who fund it rather than the people who vote in it, and that refusing corporate money is not a weakness for the Green Party but the entire point. The Senate hearing incident in March 2026 was not the catalyst for his campaign. He had already filed with the FEC, opened a campaign bank account, and was doing the unglamorous administrative work of running for office before the protest ever happened. When donations poured in after the hearing went viral, Brian and his wife paused the GoFundMe the moment they felt they had enough, redirecting supporters to his campaign instead of leaving the fundraiser open. His message to anyone sitting on the sidelines is to get your toe in the water, find an organization that represents something you care about, and start there. You will be waist deep before you know it. Brian McGinnis said, "Democrats and Republicans don't deserve your vote. They have to earn it. And I'm right there with them." Host Molly Ruland said, "Win or lose, it matters. You're showing a lot of people that they can get involved too." Timestamps 00:00 Introduction and on-air bio00:46 Why Brian is running for Senate01:25 Growing up in Illinois and joining the Marines02:23 How foreign policy views changed after Iraq04:24 Meeting his Palestinian-American wife and the shift in perspective05:34 Transition from military to firefighting07:58 Decision to run and why the Green Party09:51 Turning depression into political action11:35 The Senate hearing, the broken arm, and zero regrets14:02 The GoFundMe pause and a moment of integrity15:47 The biggest issues facing North Carolina18:08 The two-party duopoly and the case for third-party voting22:09 Staying inspired when things keep getting worse25:21 How listeners can get involved30:36 Closing thoughts Connect with Brian McGinnis Website: brianmcginnis.org [http://brianmcginnis.org]Instagram: instagram.com/brianmcginnisncTwitter/X: x.com/brianmcginnisncThreads: threads.net/@brianmcginnisnc Get full access to What do we do next? at whatdowedonext.substack.com/subscribe [https://whatdowedonext.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4]
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