After Hours with Jamie Rubin: A Vital City Podcast
In the summer of 2022, families in New York City were waiting six hours in the heat to swim for one hour. Julie Sandorf, who ran the Charles Revson Foundation for nearly two decades, decided to find out why — and what she found was a lifeguard program that had been controlled by a single union official for nearly fifty years, accountable to no one, operating under certification requirements that exist nowhere else in the country, with exactly one test site in all of New York City. Jamie talks with Julie about how a Chicago after-school program from 2000 ended up being the model for fixing these problems and what it actually means to be a smart, catalytic private funder in a city government this complicated. For more solutions-oriented thinking on urban life, visit the Vital City website at https://www.vitalcitynyc.org/
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