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T. Rowe Price's Matthew Winters on Threat Hunting, Graph Thinking, and Making Adversaries Cry

36 min · 11. Feb. 2026
Episode T. Rowe Price's Matthew Winters on Threat Hunting, Graph Thinking, and Making Adversaries Cry Cover

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What does effective threat hunting actually look like inside large, complex environments? In this episode of Ahead of the Breach, we sit down with Matthew Winters of T. Rowe Price to unpack what it means to hunt threats at scale and why the hardest part isn’t finding suspicious behavior, but deciding where to look in the first place. Matthew brings a practitioner’s perspective shaped by years in SOC operations, incident response, and enterprise environments. The conversation moves well beyond tools and techniques, focusing instead on mindset, prioritization, and how defenders can think more strategically about disrupting attackers.

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