"I Got Paid $22 for Weeks of AI Work" - The Hidden Cost of Training Your AI | Julianne Hickey

"I Got Paid $22 for Weeks of AI Work" - The Hidden Cost of Training Your AI | Julianne Hickey

Sometimes the most important conversations about AI aren't happening in boardrooms or on conference stages. They're happening in data labelling sweatshops, in schools, and in the quiet moments when we ask ourselves: what are we actually building ____________ Connect with Georgie: 🔵 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgiehubbard/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgiehubbard/] 🟪 Instagram: http://instagram.com/georgielhubbard [http://instagram.com/georgielhubbard] ♦️ Website: https://www.georgiehubbard.com [https://www.georgiehubbard.com] 📚 The Bold Move: https://www.theboldmovebook.com [https://www.theboldmovebook.com] ____________ Connect with Lou Compagnone: 🔵 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/loucompagnone/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/loucompagnone/] ____________ Connect with Julianne Hickey: 🔵 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliannehickey/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliannehickey/] ____________ Pope Leo XIV just released his first encyclical, Magnifica Humanitas, and it's about AI. Not the hype. Not the productivity gains. Not the trillion dollar valuations. It's about protecting human dignity in the age of artificial intelligence. And it's a 42,000 word love letter to the world that centres women's voices, women's labour, and women's leadership. In our first conversation with Julianne, we discussed this encyclical before it was released. Now it's here, Lou has read all 42,000 words of it, and the more he reads, the more women he finds inside it. In this episode of AI Ready Women, Georgie and Lou sit down again with Julianne Hickey, social justice leader, AI governance expert, and one of the spokespeople for the encyclical in New Zealand. Julianne has met Pope Francis twice, worked in Gaza and Palestine, and now leads AI strategy for a major government organisation. And she's also done something most of us haven't: she signed up to work for a data labelling company to see what the AI supply chain actually looks like from the inside. What she found was harrowing. And it's the conversation your organisation isn't having. Yet. This episode is about what happens when we stop asking what AI can do, and start asking what it should do. It's about the hidden workers training AI for a few dollars while someone becomes a trillionaire in the same week. It's about the cognitive disarmament of AI. It's about building a civilisation of love, brick by brick. And it's about why the future of AI isn't just a technical question. It's a spiritual one. ____________ CHAPTERS 00:00 The Pope's AI encyclical is finally here 01:10 From a parish council at 17 to AI governance: Julianne's path 02:10 Magnifica Humanitas: a 42,000 word love letter that centres women 13:25 Education, curiosity, and the lure of the "perfect machine" 22:00 Why women's caution around AI is a strength, not a weakness 24:30 The tension: demanded AI skills vs wanting to slow down 29:10 Why even Microsoft is maxing out on AI 37:45 Inside the AI supply chain 39:35 "Like a Black Mirror episode": $20, and the woman in Nigeria Georgie and Lou 💜

Why Women's Voices Are Missing From AI (And What It Costs Us All) - with Luli Adeyemo

The question we all need to ask all the time is: who's missing? Whose voice is not currently represented? AI is reshaping the world. And while the headlines swing between hype and fear, most women are asking just one question: What does this mean for me? This episode is about what happens when AI makes decisions about people's lives and nobody can explain why. It's about accountability. It's about bias. And it's about governance, not as a handbrake, but as the thing that lets us move faster, safely. In this episode of AI Ready Women, Georgie and Lou sit down with Luli Adeyemo, Executive Director of Tech Diversity Foundation, award winning leader with over 30 years in tech, and former BMX world champion. Luli has spent her career asking one question: who's in the room when decisions get made? And right now, when it comes to AI governance, women's voices are dangerously underrepresented. That's not just unfair. It's risky. And it's costing us all. This is the conversation your organisation isn't having. Yet. ____________ 📚 The Bold Move: https://www.theboldmovebook.com [https://www.theboldmovebook.com] ____________ Connect with Georgie: 🔵 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgiehubbard/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgiehubbard/] 🟪 Instagram: http://instagram.com/georgielhubbard [http://instagram.com/georgielhubbard] ♦️ Website: https://www.georgiehubbard.com [https://www.georgiehubbard.com] ____________ Connect with Lou Compagnone: 🔵 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/loucompagnone/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/loucompagnone/] ____________ Connect with Luli Adeyemo: 🔵 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/luliadeyemo/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/luliadeyemo/] ♦️ Tech Diversity Foundation: https://techdiversity.org [https://techdiversity.org] ⭕️ AI Governance Practitioner Course: https://techdiversity.org/ai-governance [https://techdiversity.org/ai-governance] ____________ CHAPTERS 2:15 Meet Luli Adeyemo — BMX world champion, tech leader, and Executive Director of Tech Diversity Foundation 5:30 From BMX Bandits to tech: Luli's career journey and why being different became her superpower 12:30 Why diversity in AI is different: the scale, the impact, and the risk are at a level we've never seen before 16:00 The football analogy: why we get diversity in sport but not in business 19:30 The pipeline problem: why women can't thrive in tech if the culture isn't set up for them 27:00 The Apple Card scandal: gender discrimination wasn't the intent, but it was the outcome 30:00 The dermatology AI tool that couldn't detect melanoma on darker skin. Who's responsible when the algorithm fails? 39:00 The Stanford Agents of Chaos paper: autonomous AI that lied, destroyed systems, and leaked data 42:00 The Alibaba AI that created its own hidden communication channel and started mining cryptocurrency

The Pope's AI Warning, and Why Women Need to Reclaim Their Agency | Julianne Hickey

The Pope just signed his first encyclical, Magnifica Humanitas, and it's about AI. His warning to the world: protect the human person before artificial intelligence erodes our work, our relationships, and our agency While tech companies race to build agents and automate everything, the Vatican did something unexpected. It created a commission on AI, not to celebrate the technology, but to protect human dignity. And when Pope Leo XIV presented the document, he did it standing beside a co-founder of the AI company Anthropic. What an unexpected twist. So what does this actually mean for women navigating AI at work right now? In this episode of AI Ready Women, Georgie and Lou sit down with Julianne Hickey, a social justice leader, AI governance expert, and former director of Caritas Aotearoa New Zealand. Julianne has met Pope Francis twice, worked in Gaza and Palestine responding to humanitarian disasters, and now leads AI strategy for a major government organisation in New Zealand. This is a conversation about what happens when we stop asking what AI can do, and start asking what it should do. And why the future of AI isn't just a technical question. It's a spiritual one. Recorded just before the encyclical's public release on 25 May 2026.) Connect with Georgie: 🔵 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgiehubbard/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgiehubbard/] 🟪 Instagram: http://instagram.com/georgielhubbard [http://instagram.com/georgielhubbard] ♦️ Website: https://www.georgiehubbard.com [https://www.georgiehubbard.com] ____________ Connect with Lou Compagnone: 🔵 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/loucompagnone/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/loucompagnone/] ____________ Connect with Julianne Hickey: 🔵 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliannehickey/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliannehickey/] ____________ CHAPTERS 2:40 Julianne's journey: Zimbabwe, Ubuntu, and "I am who I am because of who we all are" 4:15 From London consulting to humanitarian work in Gaza and Palestine: power, dignity, and who gets left behind 7:00 Inside Empire of AI: the extraction problem and AI's concentration of power 10:30 The Pope's first encyclical, Magnifica Humanitas, and human dignity in the age of automation 14:30 The Rome Call and the Builders AI Forum: "What business does the Pope have in AI?" 18:00 What this means if you're not Catholic: agency, power, and why women get left out of the room 22:00 AI agents vs human agency: why the language we use matters more than we think 25:30 The Vatican's AI commission: seven departments, rotating terms, and a cross functional governance model 27:00 Why most organisations treat AI as a tech project when it's a strategic one 30:00 Burnout, fear, and feeling unsafe at work: what leaders get dangerously wrong about productivity and people 38:00 Final thoughts: making sure AI serves people, not the other way around ____________ If this episode resonated with you, reach out to Julianne, Lou, and Georgie on LinkedIn. Let us know your biggest takeaway. And if you know an incredible woman working in AI, ethics, governance, or social justice who should be on this podcast, send us her name. We want to amplify women's voices. We want representation. We want you in the room. The future belongs to the women who are ready for it. Let's make sure that's you. Georgie and Lou 💜

The Pink-Collar AI Crisis: IBM's CTO Warns Women "Use AI Now or Get Leapfrogged"

Pink-collar jobs, admin, customer service, reception, teaching, and nursing are overwhelmingly held by women. They're also the roles most exposed to AI disruption right now. And the data shows women are using AI less than men. That's the leapfrog risk. And IBM's Chief Technology Officer for Australia and New Zealand wants every woman listening to understand it before the gap gets bigger. In this episode of AI Ready Women, Georgie Hubbard and Lou Compagnoni sit down with Angelica Veness, the CTO who openly says she can't code, and built her career through human-centred design instead. Angelica breaks down what's actually happening in the AI economy, where women are getting locked out, and the exact steps to move from AI-cautious to AI-curious to AI-queen… starting this week. ____________ 📚 The Bold Move: https://www.theboldmovebook.com [https://www.theboldmovebook.com] ____________ Connect with Georgie: 🔵 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgiehubbard/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgiehubbard/] 🟪 Instagram: http://instagram.com/georgielhubbard [http://instagram.com/georgielhubbard] ♦️Website: https://www.georgiehubbard.com [https://www.georgiehubbard.com] ____________ Connect with Lou Compagnone: 🔵 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/loucompagnone/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/loucompagnone/] ____________ Connect with Angelica Vaness: 🔵 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/angelica-veness-9866519/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/angelica-veness-9866519/] 🟣 Free AI Learning: https://skillsbuild.org [https://skillsbuild.org] ____________ CHAPTERS [00:00] Open [01:50] From gym sales to IBM CTO: Angelica's non-linear path [06:00] Why design thinking is the AI superpower [09:30] The obligation to use AI, not just design it — and why LLMs are learning male questions [12:30] SIGNAL 1: Dr Tara Behan's warning — concentrating pain into the human part of the system [18:30] The moments-that-matter triangulation: executives, employees, customers [20:00] Lou's Uber nightmare: what bad AI design feels like as a customer [22:30] Expertise atrophy — what happens when humans stop using the muscle [25:30] SIGNAL 2: How IKEA reinvented its contact centre as interior designers [30:30] Pink-collar exposure: what women in task-based roles need to do right now [36:00] The hiring problem: rigid briefs are locking women out of the AI economy [42:30] SIGNAL 3: IBM × Food Ladder — AI for good in Australian schools ____________ If this episode helped you, the kindest thing you can do is share it with one woman who needs to hear it — and leave a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. It's how more women find the show. Georgie and Lou 💜

What Microsoft's CEO and 7-Eleven's CEO Just Told Us About AI

AI is changing every career, and the CEO of Microsoft just told us something that should change how you think about yours. Plus what the CEO of 7-Eleven, Microsoft's Satya Nadella, and the Head of AI at EY are really saying about the future of work, AI for women, and staying relevant in the age of AI In this episode, Georgie and Lou debrief two major events: Lou's experience at the Microsoft AI Tour, where Satya Nadella delivered a keynote on the future of agentic AI, and Georgie's 10th Sisterhood Social featuring Fiona Hayes (CEO of 7-Eleven Australia), Julie Watkins (Chief People Officer at UniSuper), and Erin Ashton (Head of AI Enablement at EY). What they discovered was fascinating. And a little bit unsettling. Because while some women are confidently experimenting with AI and feeling ahead of the curve, others are quietly falling behind, confused about what tools to learn, overwhelmed by the pace of change, and wondering if they're about to become irrelevant. This episode is about understanding that gap. It's about knowing what's actually happening inside organisations right now. It's about where to focus your energy. And it's about making sure you don't burn out while trying to keep up. ____________ Timestamps 00:00 The CEOs you need to hear from right now 00:45 Inside Georgie's Sisterhood Social: Fiona Hayes, Julie Watkins & EY 03:37 The two types of women in every AI conversation 04:47 Adopting AI vs adapting because of it (Lou's framework) 07:13 Why most organisations are still scratching the surface 11:10 The cognitive load crisis: why AI is leaving women exhausted 15:59 What Georgie's wearable revealed about AI and sleep 18:21 Satya Nadella: AI is the new fax-to-email shift 19:57 The New Zealand Telehealth story: AI holding people while they wait 23:45 Why human skills now matter more than technical skills 25:59 The question that made the whole room go silent 31:15 Microsoft, neural implants, and resisting becoming machines 32:51 Why your zigzag career is your greatest asset 35:05 Why sticking with one AI tool is the smartest move ____________ 📚 The Bold Move: https://www.theboldmovebook.com [https://www.theboldmovebook.com] ____________ Connect with Me: 🔵 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgiehubbard/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgiehubbard/] 🟪 Instagram: http://instagram.com/georgielhubbard [http://instagram.com/georgielhubbard] ♦️Website: https://www.georgiehubbard.com [https://www.georgiehubbard.com] ____________ Connect with Lou Compagnone: 🔵 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/loucompagnone/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/loucompagnone/] ____________ Your Next Step: If this episode resonated with you, reach out to Lou and me on LinkedIn. Let us know your biggest takeaway. Share what you're learning. Tell us how you're positioning yourself for the future. And if you know an incredible woman working in AI, tech, or digital who should be on this podcast, send us her name. We want to amplify women's voices. We want representation. We want you in the room. The future belongs to the women who are ready for it. Let's make sure that's you. Georgie and Lou 💜