At The Top with Ben Andrews
Most founders think they need to have it all figured out. The truth is, the best leaders are just making it up as they go… and learning to be okay with that. Rhiannon Haart is a leadership consultant who has worked inside some of Australia's fastest-growing companies, including Canva and Atlassian. She's seen what happens when founders scale too fast, hold on too long, and struggle with the gap between what they project and what they're really feeling. In this conversation, she shares what actually separates high-performing businesses from the rest: the obsession, the transparency, the willingness to let go, and the hard calls that founders delay far too long. She explains: * Why the gap between internal reality and external projection is where imposter syndrome takes root * What Melanie Perkins at Canva obsessed over that most founders overlook * The behaviors that serve founders early on but quietly sabotage them as the business grows * How to know when someone on your leadership team isn't right for the role anymore, and why delaying that conversation damages more than just performance * Why saying yes to every good idea is often what kills momentum, not what creates it * The simple diagnostic framework she uses to uncover what's actually broken in a business * How to decide who should be in the room when you're setting strategy, and what makes a strategic planning day actually useful If you're leading a growing business and starting to feel the weight of decisions you're not sure how to make, this episode is a reminder that you don't need to have all the answers. You just need to get better at the fundamentals. Timestamps: CHAPTERS * 00:00:00 Introduction * 00:01:34 The Gap Between External Projection and Internal Reality * 00:04:18 Dealing with Imposter Syndrome as a Leader * 00:06:29 What Top Leaders Do Differently: Obsession and Transparency * 00:12:15 Balancing Obsession with Sustainable Culture * 00:14:42 When Founder Behaviors Stop Working: The Delegation Problem * 00:16:42 The Hardest Conversation: Moving On Early Employees * 00:21:38 Leadership Identity Shifts: Navigating Business Growth * 00:24:02 The Founder Bottleneck: When You're the Problem * 00:31:26 Building the Foundation: Strategy, Structure, and Strategic Planning We're just getting started! Subscribe for more conversations with founders, operators, and their advisers. Follow Rhiannon Haart: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/rhiannonhaart/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/rhiannonhaart/] Foundry Consulting - https://www.foundryconsulting.com.au [https://www.foundryconsulting.com.au] At The Top Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@atthetopwithben [https://www.youtube.com/@atthetopwithben] Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/atthetopwithben/ [https://www.instagram.com/atthetopwithben/] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/at-the-top-with-ben/ [https://www.linkedin.com/company/at-the-top-with-ben/] Spotify: http://open.spotify.com/show/1GTjCXqdQzQtZ33idMpQgo?si=C5gNvXDZSkWdxBz-mW13AA [http://open.spotify.com/show/1GTjCXqdQzQtZ33idMpQgo?si=C5gNvXDZSkWdxBz-mW13AA] Apple Podcasts: http://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/at-the-top/id1893782299 [http://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/at-the-top/id1893782299] Show Notes Jeff Bezos: 'You Have Enough Ideas to Destroy Amazon' - https://youtu.be/x698t2pKgT0?si=zfWwfLAUId_VoMcm&t=145 [https://youtu.be/x698t2pKgT0?si=8DGS2y5ndzDml84f&t=145] Mike Cannon-Brooks ‘TEDx Imposter Syndrome’ - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNBmHXS3A6I [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNBmHXS3A6I] Cliftons Strengths / Myers Briggs - https://personality.co/strengths-finder-test [https://personality.co/strengths-finder-test?gclid=Cj0KCQjw_b_QBhCSARIsAP6hR4f1uM9Kp5Y596CQE9ur2fQg6bjpIlQPT09JgQY1EqSyGczfTfij6TIaApmFEALw_wcB&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=23296896425&utm_content=187856925494&utm_term=cliftonstrengths&matchtype=e&device=c&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=23296896425&gbraid=0AAAABCDT4dzRHStj5t6qxYqcTggHQYxAC&gclid=Cj0KCQjw_b_QBhCSARIsAP6hR4f1uM9Kp5Y596CQE9ur2fQg6bjpIlQPT09JgQY1EqSyGczfTfij6TIaApmFEALw_wcB] Marlee - https://getmarlee.com/ [https://getmarlee.com/]
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