Better Good with Scott M. Curran
Every foundation in America operates on a two-way bargain with the public that rarely gets named out loud: accept significant tax advantages, and deploy those resources in service of the public good. Most foundations show you one side of that equation—the grantmaking—and keep the other side, the endowment, largely invisible. Dr. Carmen Rojas thinks that needs to change. On this episode of BETTER GOOD, Scott M. Curran (https://www.scottmcurran.com/ [https://www.scottmcurran.com/]) is joined by Dr. Carmen Rojas, president and CEO of the Marguerite Casey Foundation, for a conversation about what foundations owe the public, why MCF made the decision to expand its grantmaking from roughly $30 million to $130 million in a single year, and what it actually looks like to lead a major institution with courage when the stakes are high. Carmen traces her path from growing up in a Nicaraguan immigrant household in San Francisco to studying democratic fragility at UC Berkeley, building the Workers Lab to support low-wage worker organizing, and now leading one of the country's most consequential foundations. She explains why she believes philanthropy's greatest risk right now is caution, why she treats MCF as a financial institution first, and why she calls on foundations, nonprofits, and everyday people alike to find their own form of courage in action, not just words. This episode explores themes of philanthropic accountability, democratic values, economic justice, and power-building in communities historically excluded from it. Guest: Dr. Carmen Rojas Host: Scott M. Curran Executive Producers: Aaron Shulman & Kieron Banerji Production by Echo Studios Check out our Podcast: https://www.linktr.ee/scottmcurran [https://www.scottmcurran.com/] CHAPTERS * 00:00:00 Introduction * 00:01:22 Early Memories of Doing Good * 00:05:43 The Systems That Made Success Possible * 00:09:22 What MCF Does and Why It Matters * 00:11:46 From Venezuela to Philanthropy * 00:18:34 The Workers Lab and Individual Shame * 00:25:25 Understanding Philanthropy's Two-Way Gift * 00:32:46 Making Government Work for People * 00:36:28 Meeting the Moment with Courage * 00:42:05 Courage is Not the Absence of Fear * 00:45:47 Messages to Philanthropy, Nonprofits, and Everyone * 00:52:26 Books for This Moment * 00:56:27 A Vision of Love, Curiosity, and Learning Better Good is a podcast series where you'll meet the visionaries and doers tackling the toughest challenges of our time. With moving stories and practical takeaways, Scott M. Curran brings listeners into the art and science of doing good — through conversations with the social-impact leaders reshaping how we change the world. Whether you lead a global workforce, run a fast-growing nonprofit, or are simply driven to make a difference, this show offers the ideas, inspiration, and tools to leave the world better than you found it. The world's biggest problems won't wait. Neither should you.
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