Build. Grow. Repeat.
Your SaaS has a ceiling it will hit — and it's already programmed in by two numbers. Back from MicroConf Portland with the slide that reframed everything: Max MRR = New MRR ÷ Churn. Jason Cohen showed Kit's real revenue chart flattening at $150k/month, and underneath the math was the two-sided formula I'd been teaching for years without realizing it. Build · Grow · Repeat is not a tagline — it's the calculator. This episode walks through both halves with the speakers who made them concrete. Defense: Jason Cohen on obsessing about churn, Alex Pham on pricing as a retention lever (C.R.E.A.M.), Anthony Eden on operational excellence as a silent moat. Offense: Gia Laudi's painkiller positioning, Nick Disabato's Pain-Dream-Fix homepage (including a /nickdfy skill I built that rewrote our homepage in his style), Amanda Natividad on publishing for zero clicks, Einar Vollset on the 20% growth-rate cliff that halves your exit multiple. The personal arc underneath: before vibe coding I could only pull Grow levers. Now the Build half is reachable too — and the math says that's where the biggest unlock sits. Live from MicroConf Portland. Bring your own numbers. IN THIS EPISODE 00:00:00 – Back from MicroConf Portland 00:00:48 – Two halves, one ceiling: Jason Cohen's Max MRR formula 00:04:19 – Build · Grow · Repeat: the two halves vibe coding unlocks 00:07:23 – Defense: obsess about churn first 00:10:10 – Alex Pham: pricing as a retention lever (C.R.E.A.M.) 00:12:18 – Anthony Eden: operational excellence as a silent moat 00:13:07 – Offense: Gia Laudi on painkiller positioning 00:14:45 – Nick Disabato's Pain-Dream-Fix (and the /nickdfy skill) 00:16:32 – Amanda Natividad: publishing for zero clicks 00:18:39 – Einar Vollset: growth rate as a valuation lever 00:22:06 – Run the Max MRR calculator on your own business DEEP DIVE LINKS 📖 Full Article: https://pirateskills.com/insights/build-grow-mrr [https://pirateskills.com/insights/build-grow-mrr] 🧪 Forge Preview — Wed Apr 22, 18:00 Berlin: Free live walk-through of Builder Forge + Growth Forge — see which half of the ceiling to push first: https://pirateskills.com/pirate/forge/preview/2026-04-22 [https://pirateskills.com/pirate/forge/preview/2026-04-22] 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7kFl0BJiOYih8yqQTRR9SN [https://open.spotify.com/show/7kFl0BJiOYih8yqQTRR9SN] 🍎 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/build-grow-repeat/id1870561487 [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/build-grow-repeat/id1870561487] 🗓️ All upcoming events: https://pirateskills.com/events [https://pirateskills.com/events] 💬 Connect with me on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bensufiani/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/bensufiani/]
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