Landline with Mary Mahoney
I sat down with historian M.J. Rymsza-Pavlovska, author of History Comes Alive, to figure out why America decided to throw itself a birthday party in the middle of Watergate, and what that has to do with the strange, sputtering rollout of the 250th happening right now. We get into Nixon hijacking a nonpartisan commission, a very wagon train crossing the country to meet Gerald Ford, and the queer and Black history organizers who used the bicentennial's grant money to build the public history field as we know it. It turns out nostalgia isn't good or bad, it just is, and the receipts are more interesting than the fireworks. This month’s patreon episode is a 411 episode on the bicentennial. Join the $5/month tier to hear it now. Become a Patreon member → https://www.patreon.com/cw/MaryMahoney [https://www.patreon.com/cw/MaryMahoney] Suggest a future episode topic here: https://www.patreon.com/MaryMahoney/posts/running-list-of-159302658?collection=1744255 [https://www.patreon.com/MaryMahoney/posts/running-list-of-159302658?collection=1744255] Timestamps * 00:08 – Welcome, and why the bicentennial matters for America 250 * 02:05 – MJ on stumbling into a dissertation topic nobody else wanted * 06:32 – How Americans went from watching history to living inside it * 14:23 – Reenactment, Reagan's Oval Office for kids, and "Hippies Living History" * 20:37 – 1966: Johnson forms the first bicentennial commission * 29:12 – Nixon takes over and wants fireworks, not history * 32:56 – Philadelphia's World's Fair collapses under its own weight * 34:33 – The People's Bicentennial Commission crashes the Boston Tea Party * 38:26 – The Afro-American Bicentennial Corporation and the fight for historic sites * 1:04:05 – MJ's hot take: the 250th is just the 1893 World's Fair with worse merch TRANSCRIPT Full episode transcript here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nuDQ8GbcGKv4DmoAJ3jkPUutO8dpuDzq2oFO3SCnWpY/edit?usp=sharing [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nuDQ8GbcGKv4DmoAJ3jkPUutO8dpuDzq2oFO3SCnWpY/edit?usp=sharing] Connect with Mary: * Website: www.marymmahoney.com [http://www.marymmahoney.com] * Instagram: @mimimahoney [https://www.instagram.com/mimimahoney/?hl=en] * Email: MaryMargaret.Mahoney@gmail.com [MaryMargaret.Mahoney@gmail.com] Connect with M.J. Rymsza-Pavlovska: * Website: https://mjrymszapawlowska.com/ [https://mjrymszapawlowska.com/] * Book: History Comes Alive: Public History and Popular Culture in the 1970s [https://bookshop.org/a/102042/9781469633862] ---------------------------------------- Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy [https://acast.com/privacy] for more information.
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