Gabrielle Bates and Patrycja Humienik

Ada Limón

Ada Limón is the author of seven books of poetry, including Startlement: New & Selected Poems; The Hurting Kind, which was a finalist for the Griffin Prize; The Carrying, which won the National Books Critics Circle Award and was a finalist for the PEN/Jean Stein Book Award; and Bright Dead Things, which was named a finalist for the National Book Award, the National Book Critics Circle Award, and the Kingsley Tufts Award. Limón is the recipient of a MacArthur Fellowship, a Guggenheim Fellowship, and was named a 2024 Time Magazine Woman of the Year. She is the author of two picture books, In Praise of Mystery as well as And, Too, The Fox, and was the editor of the anthology You Are Here: Poetry in the Natural World. She served as the 24th Poet Laureate of the United States. Our conversation was much about nature, poetry, having empathy for the younger versions of ourselves, and the freedom of choosing your own path outside of societal expectations.  This episode was audio produced by Katie McMurran. Music is by Madisen Ward.

Madeleine Morlet

Madeleine Morlet [https://madeleinemorlet.com/] is an Australian-born British-American artist. She is particularly interested in the concept of the female gaze, especially as it relates to motherhood and sexuality. Working primarily in medium format and 35mm film, she often combines portraits, landscapes, and close crops to explore character and place. Her photographic practice is grounded in research and, more recently, paired with creative nonfiction. We talked about her project and upcoming book The Body Is Not a Thing. This episode was audio produced by Katie McMurran. Music is by Madisen Ward.

Darius Atefat-Peckham

Darius Atefat-Peckham is an Iranian American poet and essayist. He is the author of Book of Kin, which won the 2023 Autumn House Poetry Prize, and the chapbook How Many Love Poems (Seven Kitchens Press, 2021). He is also the editor of his mother Susan Atefat-Peckham’s posthumous poetry collection Deep Are These Distances Between Us (CavanKerry Press, 2023).  We talked about and kindness, poetry, dogs, language, crying on planes… and a lot more! This episode was audio produced by Katie McMurran. Music is by Madisen Ward.

Odette England

Odette England is an artist, photographer and writer. She has published five award-winning books and has two books coming out in 2025 including her first novella Isn’t X Beautiful. Odette received her Ph.D. in 2018 and was a 2022 Guggenheim Foundation Fellow. She teaches at Brown University and the Rhode Island School of Design, and is working on her second novella, Once I Was A Photograph. This episode was audio produced by Katie McMurran. Music is by Madisen Ward. Odette’s Website [https://www.odetteengland.com/] Odette’s Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/odetteengland/]

Gabrielle Bates and Patrycja Humienik

Gabrielle Bates is a poet, visual artist, and co-hosts the podcast The Poet Salon. She is the author of the poetry collection, Judas Goat (Tin House, 2023). Patrycja Humienik is a Polish-American writer, editor, and performance artist. Her poetry collection, We Contain Landscapes (Tin House, 2025) is out now. This was such a deep, nourishing conversation on art, language and friendship. This episode was audio produced by Katie McMurran. Music is by Madisen Ward.