Episode 39: Building Trust and Driving Change as an HR Leader - with L. David Kingsley

Episode 39: Building Trust and Driving Change as an HR Leader - with L. David Kingsley

Welcome to another episode of the People Leader Accelerator Podcast, where we explore what it really takes to build high-performing organisations. Our guest today is L. David Kingsley [https://linkedin.com/in/ldavidkingsley], Chief People Officer at Illumio. With a background spanning management consulting, HR leadership in public and scale-up technology companies, and service as a Navy Reserve intelligence officer, David brings a disciplined, mission-driven perspective to people leadership. His experience working with founder-led startups, large enterprises, and fast-growing teams gives him a valuable lens on the intersection of organisational strategy and human dynamics. In this conversation, we focus on what it means to be of service as a people leader and how to navigate complex change in today’s business environment. David shares lessons from large-scale organisational transformation, the evolution of the HR function, and how leaders can position themselves as critical enablers and trusted advisors to their business. The discussion addresses both the timeless challenges and new realities facing people leaders, especially around technology shifts and alignment with business priorities. Listeners will take away practical strategies for career growth, frameworks for stakeholder management, and clear guidance on building credibility with business leaders. David unpacks the importance of curiosity, business fluency, and continual learning, and offers concrete examples of how HR teams can deliver value in organisations navigating significant change. This episode is particularly relevant for people leaders looking to accelerate their impact and develop the mindsets required to succeed in senior HR and executive roles. Discussion highlights: * David’s career journey from management consulting to Chief People Officer and the lessons learned along the way * How to balance service to the company, team, and self - adapted from naval leadership principles * The evolving role of HR from necessary support to trusted advisor in the business * Practical ways people leaders can build credibility by learning the language of the business and aligning with commercial outcomes * Approaches to adopting and experimenting with AI as an HR team, and considerations on when to build, buy, or adopt new technologies * Navigating vendor negotiations amidst rapid technological change and understanding the true costs of AI adoption * The critical role of curiosity for career advancement and problem-solving in people leadership * Why clarifying personal purpose and values is essential for long-term growth as an HR leader * Managing unarticulated expectations and building effective relationships with CEOs and other business leaders This conversation provides a grounded, experience-based look at the challenges and opportunities for people leaders in dynamic organisations. For show notes and bonus resources, visit www.PeopleLeaderAccelerator.com/podcast. About The People Leader Accelerator Podcast Our goal with this podcast is simple: to help people leaders navigate the messy, complex, and deeply rewarding work of leading teams and organizations with more clarity, confidence, and community. Whether you’re the first HR hire at a startup or an experienced executive at a company with scale, you’ll find actionable insights you can use right away. We can’t wait to share these conversations with you. Welcome to the journey! Listen, learn, and connect: 🎧 Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts (Apple [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/people-leader-accelerator-podcast/id1847048853], Spotify [https://open.spotify.com/show/6ShmQDpJTA7ZCWlhRWAzsX], YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuVXa2eRMNXZPv3G4mt6mGDSf4jTYKPWS]). 💡 Find show notes and bonus resources at peopleleaderaccelerator.com/podcast [https://peopleleaderaccelerator.com/podcast]. 📬 Share this episode with a colleague who’s ready to level up as a people leader. 🤝 Connect with your hosts: * Jessica Yuen: linkedin.com/in/jessicayuen [https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessicayuen] | jessyuen.com [https://www.jessyuen.com/] * Andrew Bartlow: linkedin.com/in/bartlow [https://www.linkedin.com/in/bartlow] | peopleleaderaccelerator.com [https://www.peopleleaderaccelerator.com/]

Episode 38: Increasing HR Impact by Aligning People Analytics with Business Strategy - with Cole Napper

Welcome to another episode of the People Leader Accelerator Podcast, where we explore the realities of leadership and organizational effectiveness. Our guest today is Cole Napper [https://www.linkedin.com/in/colenapper/], the first Chief People Intelligence Officer at HRBench and a recognized leader in people analytics, workforce intelligence, and evidence-based HR strategy. He is the creator of the *People Intelligence Manifesto*, founder of Directionally Correct, LLC, and host of one of the world's leading people analytics podcasts and newsletters. Cole also leads the Data Driven HR Academy, a practitioner-led program that equips HR leaders and people analytics professionals with the skills to operate at the intersection of data, AI, strategy, and decision-making. Throughout his career, Cole has helped organizations transform how they use people intelligence to make better business decisions. His experience spans major global companies including FedEx, Texas Instruments, Toyota, PepsiCo, and Grainger, as well as venture-backed startups such as Motive, Booster, and Orgnostic. He previously served as Vice President of Research and Workforce Intelligence at Lightcast and has become a sought-after advisor, speaker, and consultant on the future of people analytics. Holding both a Ph.D. and M.A. in Industrial-Organizational Psychology, Cole combines academic rigor with extensive real-world experience. In this conversation, we focus on the evolving landscape of people analytics and the growing expectations for HR functions to contribute directly to business outcomes. The discussion goes beyond dashboards and reporting, examining how people leaders can integrate analytics, workforce intelligence, and behavioral science to drive meaningful organizational change. Listeners will come away with practical ideas for making HR data more relevant to executive decision-making and board-level discussions. Cole shares insights on shifting from traditional metrics to actionable intelligence, building business acumen as an HR leader, and aligning people insights with the core priorities of the business. This episode is particularly valuable for those seeking to increase their impact as strategic partners within their organizations. Discussion highlights: * Why people analytics is now an organizational necessity rather than a luxury or speciality * The convergence of analytics, workforce planning, talent intelligence, and behavioural science functions * Common pitfalls in HR reporting and how to tie people metrics directly to financial and business outcomes * The importance of developing business acumen within HR and understanding how the business makes money * Rethinking traditional HR metrics and focusing on measures that drive executive action * Balancing employee, contractor, and technology spend for true workforce productivity * The role of accounting nuances (such as capex vs opex) in workforce-related decision making * Practical approaches for people analytics across different organizational archetypes, from early-stage startups to major enterprises * How people leaders can move from reporting on outcomes to providing actionable recommendations * Key advice for HR leaders looking to accelerate their careers and build influence Cole's perspective offers a candid look at how people leaders can move beyond traditional HR practices to become essential contributors to business performance. For show notes and bonus resources, visit www.PeopleLeaderAccelerator.com/podcast. About The People Leader Accelerator Podcast Our goal with this podcast is simple: to help people leaders navigate the messy, complex, and deeply rewarding work of leading teams and organizations with more clarity, confidence, and community. Whether you’re the first HR hire at a startup or an experienced executive at a company with scale, you’ll find actionable insights you can use right away. We can’t wait to share these conversations with you. Welcome to the journey! Listen, learn, and connect: 🎧 Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts (Apple [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/people-leader-accelerator-podcast/id1847048853], Spotify [https://open.spotify.com/show/6ShmQDpJTA7ZCWlhRWAzsX], YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuVXa2eRMNXZPv3G4mt6mGDSf4jTYKPWS]). 💡 Find show notes and bonus resources at peopleleaderaccelerator.com/podcast [https://peopleleaderaccelerator.com/podcast]. 📬 Share this episode with a colleague who’s ready to level up as a people leader. 🤝 Connect with your hosts: * Jessica Yuen: linkedin.com/in/jessicayuen [https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessicayuen] | jessyuen.com [https://www.jessyuen.com/] * Andrew Bartlow: linkedin.com/in/bartlow [https://www.linkedin.com/in/bartlow] | peopleleaderaccelerator.com [https://www.peopleleaderaccelerator.com/]

Episode 37: Prioritization Frameworks To Help People Leaders Drive Organizational Success (Jess Yuen and Andrew Bartlow in Conversation)

Welcome to another episode of the People Leader Accelerator Podcast, where we examine the realities of building effective organizations and leading through complexity. In this episode, we take a break from the traditional guest interviews and invite you into an informal conversation between hosts, Jess Yuen and Andrew Bartlow. Instead of sharing the spotlight with a guest, they dive into their own lived experiences and perspectives as people leaders, exploring what leadership, culture, and authenticity look like in practice. The central theme of this discussion is prioritization - how leaders distinguish between what is urgent and what is truly important, and how to maintain focus on the highest-impact work amid continual demands. They explore how people leaders, executives, and founders can clarify organizational priorities, structure their time, and avoid getting lost in day-to-day tasks at the expense of longer-term, strategic goals. Discussion highlights: * Why traditional to-do lists are inadequate for the demands of executive leadership roles * The critical importance of calendar blocking and turning priorities into dedicated time * Frameworks for prioritization, including leveraging the Eisenhower Matrix and the “Leverage, Neutral, Overhead” model * The distinction between urgency and importance, and why leaders often conflate the two * Practical approaches for managing “sand” tasks versus “big rocks” in daily schedules * How to ground people team strategies in direct conversations with business leaders, not just HR best practices * Techniques for expectation management and building alignment across the leadership team * Challenges unique to HR leaders, including balancing stakeholder requests with high-impact organizational needs This conversation offers a grounded view of the leadership challenges that come with growth and complexity. The insights shared will help people leaders avoid getting sidetracked by low-impact activity, encourage better alignment between HR and business strategy, and support effective prioritization in demanding environments. For show notes and bonus resources, visit www.PeopleLeaderAccelerator.com/podcast. About The People Leader Accelerator Podcast Our goal with this podcast is simple: to help people leaders navigate the messy, complex, and deeply rewarding work of leading teams and organizations with more clarity, confidence, and community. Whether you’re the first HR hire at a startup or an experienced executive at a company with scale, you’ll find actionable insights you can use right away. We can’t wait to share these conversations with you. Welcome to the journey! Listen, learn, and connect: 🎧 Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts (Apple [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/people-leader-accelerator-podcast/id1847048853], Spotify [https://open.spotify.com/show/6ShmQDpJTA7ZCWlhRWAzsX], YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuVXa2eRMNXZPv3G4mt6mGDSf4jTYKPWS]). 💡 Find show notes and bonus resources at peopleleaderaccelerator.com/podcast [https://peopleleaderaccelerator.com/podcast]. 📬 Share this episode with a colleague who’s ready to level up as a people leader. 🤝 Connect with your hosts: * Jessica Yuen: linkedin.com/in/jessicayuen [https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessicayuen] | jessyuen.com [https://www.jessyuen.com/] * Andrew Bartlow: linkedin.com/in/bartlow [https://www.linkedin.com/in/bartlow] | peopleleaderaccelerator.com [https://www.peopleleaderaccelerator.com/]

Episode 36: Navigating Rapid Change and Innovation in People Leadership with - AJ Thomas

Welcome to the People Leader Accelerator Podcast, where we examine what it genuinely takes to lead, scale, and evolve effective organisations. Our guest for this episode is AJ Thomas [https://www.linkedin.com/in/chaospilot/], an accomplished executive with a remarkable track record across talent, HR operations, business strategy, and the early-stage venture ecosystem. Having served in pivotal roles at Alphabet’s Moonshot Factory (Google X) and as a founder and general partner at an early-stage venture firm, AJ Thomas brings a rich, multidisciplinary perspective to the evolving world of people leadership. AJ Thomas’s hands-on experience spans leading global talent initiatives, designing organisational culture, and advising both startups and established enterprises as they navigate innovation and change. This conversation focuses on the vital role of experimentation, curiosity, and first principles thinking in shaping effective HR leadership. Against a backdrop of technological transformation, including the rising influence of generative AI, we dig into how people leaders can remain grounded in the human aspects of their roles while effectively driving innovation and business outcomes. Discussion highlights: * Navigating a non-linear career path and the value of being a “super learner” * The power of experimentation in HR and why learning from failed experiments is critical * How to design experiments with clear objectives, “kill criteria,” and real business impact in mind * The importance of challenging the status quo by first getting deeply curious about it * Integrating people strategy with AI and technology-driven change, without losing sight of human outcomes * Lessons from applying rapid testing and iteration in high-stakes environments like Google X * Why starting with the business goal - and not just the solution - drives more meaningful change * Practical frameworks for aligning HR initiatives to measurable organisational outcomes * The courage it takes to unsell ideas and prioritise what will truly support business and people growth This episode offers candid insight into the leadership qualities and practical tools needed to guide organisations through uncertainty and change. For show notes and bonus resources, visit www.PeopleLeaderAccelerator.com/podcast. About The People Leader Accelerator Podcast Our goal with this podcast is simple: to help people leaders navigate the messy, complex, and deeply rewarding work of leading teams and organizations with more clarity, confidence, and community. Whether you’re the first HR hire at a startup or an experienced executive at a company with scale, you’ll find actionable insights you can use right away. We can’t wait to share these conversations with you. Welcome to the journey! Listen, learn, and connect: 🎧 Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts (Apple [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/people-leader-accelerator-podcast/id1847048853], Spotify [https://open.spotify.com/show/6ShmQDpJTA7ZCWlhRWAzsX], YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuVXa2eRMNXZPv3G4mt6mGDSf4jTYKPWS]). 💡 Find show notes and bonus resources at peopleleaderaccelerator.com/podcast [https://peopleleaderaccelerator.com/podcast]. 📬 Share this episode with a colleague who’s ready to level up as a people leader. 🤝 Connect with your hosts: * Jessica Yuen: linkedin.com/in/jessicayuen [https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessicayuen] | jessyuen.com [https://www.jessyuen.com/] * Andrew Bartlow: linkedin.com/in/bartlow [https://www.linkedin.com/in/bartlow] | peopleleaderaccelerator.com [https://www.peopleleaderaccelerator.com/]

Episode 35: AI Meets HR - How OpenAI’s People Innovation Labs Are Simplifying Workflows - with Dylan Vassallo

Welcome to another episode of the People Leader Accelerator Podcast [https://www.peopleleaderaccelerator.com/podcast], where we explore what it really takes to build high-performing organisations. Our guest today is Dylan Vassallo [https://www.linkedin.com/in/dylan-vassallo/], an engineering leader at OpenAI, where he leads the People Innovation Labs team. Dylan brings a unique blend of technical expertise and a deep passion for people operations, having previously held impactful roles at Khan Academy and Stripe. His background in both engineering management and HR innovation gives him a distinctive perspective on how cutting-edge technology can empower and transform people teams. In this conversation, we discuss the strategic and practical considerations behind building internal tools for people teams at scale. Dylan shares how OpenAI balances the decision to build versus buy people systems, the importance of simplifying employee workflows, and how AI is enabling new levels of efficiency and impact for people operations. The episode delves into the nuances of aligning technology, culture, and operational realities as organisations expand rapidly. Listeners will come away with actionable insights on optimising people processes, fostering a culture of experimentation, and navigating the trade-offs of introducing new technologies within HR. Dylan also shares tips on how HR leaders can adopt a builder’s mindset, pilot solutions, and partner effectively with engineering teams, even in resource-constrained environments. Discussion highlights: * Why OpenAI created a dedicated People Innovation Labs team to address organisational challenges during periods of hypergrowth * Balancing “build vs. buy” decisions and creating user-friendly layers on top of complex HR systems * The importance of simplifying employee experiences by curating paved paths through HR workflows * How to assess when an organisation is ready for custom internal tools based on operational complexity and compliance demands * The role of cross-functional collaboration with security, legal, and other stakeholders when implementing people technology * Common pitfalls in rolling out HR tech, including the need for strong operational support and sustainable adoption * Encouraging a culture of curiosity, experimentation, and iterative improvement within HR teams * Practical strategies for fostering a mindset of continuous learning and career growth in people leadership This conversation is a grounded exploration of how technology and people strategy intersect as organisations grow. For show notes and bonus resources, visit www.PeopleLeaderAccelerator.com/podcast. About The People Leader Accelerator Podcast Our goal with this podcast is simple: to help people leaders navigate the messy, complex, and deeply rewarding work of leading teams and organizations with more clarity, confidence, and community. Whether you’re the first HR hire at a startup or an experienced executive at a company with scale, you’ll find actionable insights you can use right away. We can’t wait to share these conversations with you. Welcome to the journey! Listen, learn, and connect: 🎧 Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts (Apple [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/people-leader-accelerator-podcast/id1847048853], Spotify [https://open.spotify.com/show/6ShmQDpJTA7ZCWlhRWAzsX], YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuVXa2eRMNXZPv3G4mt6mGDSf4jTYKPWS]). 💡 Find show notes and bonus resources at peopleleaderaccelerator.com/podcast [https://peopleleaderaccelerator.com/podcast]. 📬 Share this episode with a colleague who’s ready to level up as a people leader. 🤝 Connect with your hosts: * Jessica Yuen: linkedin.com/in/jessicayuen [https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessicayuen] | jessyuen.com [https://www.jessyuen.com/] * Andrew Bartlow: linkedin.com/in/bartlow [https://www.linkedin.com/in/bartlow] | peopleleaderaccelerator.com [https://www.peopleleaderaccelerator.com/]