Principal Matters: The School Leader's Podcast with William D. Parker
A QUICK NOTE TO LISTNERS: Before this week’s interview, Will Parker and Jen Schwanke take some time to answer a listener question. This week’s question is: I’m thinking about retiring in a year, but I want to do something part time. What are some options you’ve learned about consulting that I might be able to develop for me? Listen in to hear their response! MEET BRAD JOHNSON AND RACHEL EDOHO-EKET: In this episode of Principal Matters, Dr. Schwanke is joined by two heavy hitters in the education world: Dr. Brad Johnson, author of over 20 books including the newly released Coffee with the Custodian, and Dr. Rachel Edoho-Eket, a Blue Ribbon school principal, TEDx speaker, and President of the Maryland Association of Elementary School Principals. Together, we dive into the core philosophy of their co-authored book, Relational Intelligence. We challenge the outdated “command and control” model of leadership, shifting the focus from technical systems to the human systems that actually drive school success. As we discuss, while strategy is important, it simply doesn’t move the needle if the foundational relationships aren’t in place. EMOTIONAL INTELLIGENCE AND RELATIONAL INTELLIGENCE: In our conversation, we explore the critical distinction between Emotional Intelligence (EQ) and Relational Intelligence (RQ). While EQ helps a leader understand themselves, RQ is what allows them to effectively lead others by navigating the complex web of stakeholders—from students and staff to parents and the central office. Brad and Rachel share practical advice on how busy administrators can prioritize “connection over compliance.” We talk about making “relational deposits,” the power of being vulnerable enough to admit when we don’t have all the answers, and why research shows that RQ is actually a better predictor of leadership success than IQ. THE MILLION DOLLAR QUESTIONS: Finally, we tackle the “million-dollar questions” of school leadership: handling toxic staff members and preventing burnout. Dr. Johnson shares his “HOPE” framework—focusing on Help, Opportunity, Praise, and Encouragement—to flip the script on our natural tendency toward negativity. We wrap up with a look at his narrative approach to leadership in his new book, reminding us that the best insights often come from the most “invisible” people in our buildings. This conversation is a powerful reminder that while your title gives you your position, your relationships are what truly define your impact. STAYING CONNECTED: If you wish to stay connected with the work of Dr. Brad Johnson or Dr. Rachel Edoho-Eket, you can learn about them via the following channels: Dr. Johnson: * Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/drbradjohnson [https://www.facebook.com/drbradjohnson] * Twitter: https://twitter.com/DrBradJohnson [https://twitter.com/DrBradJohnson] * Website: www.DoctorBradJohnson.com [http://www.doctorbradjohnson.com/] Dr. Edoho-Eket: * Website: www.racheledohoeket.com [http://www.racheledohoeket.com/] * Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/racheledohoeket/ [https://www.instagram.com/racheledohoeket/] * Linkedin: Dr. Rachel Edoho-Eket | LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-rachel-edoho-eket-2b0ab7221/] * Twitter: Dr. Rachel Edoho-Eket (@RachelEdohoEket) / X [https://x.com/RachelEdohoEket] * Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@racheledoho-eket [https://www.youtube.com/@racheledoho-eket] * Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/author/dr.edoho-eket [https://www.amazon.com/author/dr.edoho-eket] Thanks for doing what matters! The post PMP510: Redefining Leadership Through Relational Intelligence with Brad Johnson and Rachel Edoho-Eket [https://williamdparker.com/2026/pmp510-redefining-leadership-through-relational-intelligence-with-brad-johnson-and-rachel-edoho-eket/] appeared first on Principal Matters [https://williamdparker.com].
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