S6 EP #9 | Gary Quan on the Emotional Cost of Achievement in AAPI Culture

S6 EP #9 | Gary Quan on the Emotional Cost of Achievement in AAPI Culture

In this episode of the SARE Ladies Podcast, Anita and Ashley sit down with Gary Kwan, LMFT for a deeply honest conversation about AAPI mental health, immigrant family dynamics, ambition, and the emotional realities behind money and ownership. Together, they unpack how many Asian Americans — especially women — inherit more than just assets or expectations. They inherit emotional beliefs around sacrifice, safety, responsibility, scarcity, and self-worth. Gary shares insights from his work in the AAPI mental health space and from his book Asian American Chronicles, exploring why so many immigrant families unintentionally pass anxiety down as love, why perfectionism and people-pleasing can quietly hold people back from leadership and investing, and why many high-achieving individuals still emotionally operate as though everything could disappear tomorrow. The conversation also dives into the emotional weight of real estate and wealth in immigrant communities — how property ownership became tied to survival, legitimacy, and stability, and how intergenerational wealth transfer can shape identity, relationships, and mental health in ways people rarely discuss openly. This episode is about more than money. It’s about healing, emotional inheritance, healthy ambition, and what the next generation of Asian Americans can do differently. If you’ve ever struggled with pressure, guilt, over-preparing, or feeling like failure wasn’t an option — this conversation will resonate deeply. 👤 MEET THE GUEST Gary Quan is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist with over 18 years of experience working to support a variety of couples, families, and groups across cultural and socioeconomic spectra in private practice, community mental health, Intensive Outpatient settings, acute psychiatric hospitals, and correctional settings.  Gary also serves as Adjunct Faculty at the California Institute of Integral Studies, University of San Francisco, and Western Seminary.  Gary is happy to introduce ‘Asian American Chronicles – Tales of Mental Health and Hope’ with the hope of encouraging providers and beneficiaries of mental health with another path towards wellness, recovery, and purpose.   🔗 CONNECT + LEARN MORE LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/gquan50/] Website [https://www.christiancounselingcenters.org/therapists/gary-quan-m-a%20%20/] Asian American Chronicles, Available on Amazon [https://www.amazon.com/Asian-American-Chronicles-Mental-Health/dp/B0F5M3KWV7/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3O5CWNMCQ02P0&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.fK8Ea8QUzT__SGdeD9eEMQ.W5XEroQCS1gE-8dJ0PJVwgG70X3kI3Q1yyL9VZTScHo&dib_tag=se&keywords=gary+quan+asian+american+chronicles&qid=1779333440&sprefix=%2Caps%2C240&sr=8-1] Disclosure: Legal Disclosure for the SARE Ladies Podcast. The following is an important legal disclosure regarding the content of our podcast: * Entertainment Purposes Only: The content provided in all episodes of the SARE Ladies podcast, including discussions, opinions, interviews, and any other type of content, is intended solely for entertainment purposes. It should not be considered professional, financial, legal, or any other type of advice. * No Professional Advice: The hosts, guests, and producers of the SARE Ladies podcast are limited professional advisors. The content provided should not be relied upon for making any personal, financial, or business decisions. We strongly encourage our listeners to seek advice from qualified professionals before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast. * No Liability: The creators, hosts, and producers of the SARE Ladies podcast shall not be liable for any errors or omissions in the content provided, nor for any actions taken by any listener based on the information provided in the podcast. Any reliance you place on such information is therefore strictly at your own risk. * Consult Professionals: We strongly advise our listeners to consult with a qualified professional for advice tailored to their personal circumstances before making any investment or financial decisions. By listening to the SARE Ladies podcast, you acknowledge and agree to this disclaimer and understand that the content provided is not intended to replace professional advice.

S6 EP #8 | Amy Chang on the Unwritten Rules Women Navigate in Real Estate and Wealth

What are the unwritten rules women learn in real estate, investing, entrepreneurship, and leadership spaces? In this episode of SARE Ladies, we sit down with Dr. Amy Chiang - founder of Forma Leaders and Transforma Systems, creator of the FORMA® methodology, and author of Survival Identity: The Hidden Patterns Running Your Work, Leadership, and Life - to unpack the identity-level patterns shaping how women lead, perform, build wealth, and navigate high-pressure industries. After spending more than two decades consulting Fortune 100 companies across technology, energy, and financial services, Dr. Chiang began noticing the same hidden patterns beneath burnout, overperformance, people pleasing, and the constant pressure to prove yourself — especially for women and people of color navigating spaces with unwritten rules. In this conversation, we explore: * Why successful women still don’t feel safe * The hidden emotional cost of constantly proving yourself * Survival mode vs authentic ambition * The psychology of women in real estate and wealth-building spaces * Why competence becomes performance * The immigrant survival patterns shaping money and leadership * Overworking, burnout, and hyper-independence * Identity, visibility, and power in male-dominated industries * What authentic leadership looks like beyond survival mode If you’ve ever: * felt like you had to work twice as hard to belong * overprepared before walking into a room * tied your worth to productivity * struggled to rest even after achieving success * felt financially successful but emotionally unsafe …this episode is for you. About Dr. Amy Chiang: Dr. Amy Chiang is the founder of Forma Leaders and Transforma Systems and the creator of the FORMA® methodology. Her work sits at the intersection of transformative learning theory, somatic science, and human systems. She earned the Jack Mezirow Living Theory for Transformative Learning Award for her doctoral work at Fielding Graduate University and is also the founder of AAPI PDX, a Portland-based community organization. Her new book, Survival Identity: The Hidden Patterns Running Your Work, Leadership, and Life, launched in April 2026. Transforma is actively seeking organizational partners, including companies investing in leadership development and organizations navigating workforce transitions. If you work in HR leadership, talent development, real estate brokerages, or investment teams at scale, connect with Dr. Chiang and her team. #WomenInRealEstate #Leadership #Burnout #WomenAndMoney #Entrepreneurship #AAPI #RealEstateInvesting #PersonalDevelopment #WomenInBusiness #SurvivalIdentity #Podcast LinkedIn [http://linkedin.com/in/amychiang] Website [http://www.survivalidentity.com] Survival Identity by Dr Amy Chiang - Out now! [https://www.amazon.com/Survival-Identity-Patterns-Running-Leadership-ebook/dp/B0GHY4B9NZ] Disclosure: Legal Disclosure for the SARE Ladies Podcast. The following is an important legal disclosure regarding the content of our podcast: * No Professional Advice: The hosts, guests, and producers of the SARE Ladies podcast are limited professional advisors. The content provided should not be relied upon for making any personal, financial, or business decisions. We strongly encourage our listeners to seek advice from qualified professionals before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast. * No Liability: The creators, hosts, and producers of the SARE Ladies podcast shall not be liable for any errors or omissions in the content provided, nor for any actions taken by any listener based on the information provided in the podcast. Any reliance you place on such information is therefore strictly at your own risk. * Consult Professionals: We strongly advise our listeners to consult with a qualified professional for advice tailored to their personal circumstances before making any investment or financial decisions. By listening to the SARE Ladies podcast, you acknowledge and agree to this disclaimer and understand that the content provided is not intended to replace professional advice.

S6 EP #7 | How Jesse Vasquez pencils his deals and has the MTR buzz cooled off?

In this special live-recorded episode of the SARE Ladies Podcast, Anita and Ashley sit down at Jesse Vasquez’s modesto home for a candid conversation on the real state of mid-term rentals in 2026. From guru culture and viral reels to real margins, furnishing costs, vacancy risk, and operational burnout — this episode pulls back the curtain on what the MTR business actually looks like today. Jesse breaks down the back-of-the-napkin math he personally uses to evaluate deals, how he has a relationship worth $2M, what numbers investors are projecting too aggressively, and why many properties, markets, and even personalities are simply wrong for MTR. We also dive into the cooling buzz around the asset class, what operationally changed over the last few years, and whether smaller operators can still compete in an increasingly crowded space. The conversation goes beyond spreadsheets into hospitality, tenant experience, B2B outreach, and the small details that quietly kill repeat business. If you’ve ever wondered: * Is MTR still worth it? * What actually makes a deal pencil? * Or whether the “passive income” narrative was oversold… …this episode is for you. 👤 MEET THE GUEST🔗 About Jesse Vasquez: Jesse Vasquez is a real estate operator and educator who specializes in mid-term rental strategy. After spending 18 years in healthcare, he made a pivot into real estate and built a seven-figure portfolio spanning 24 properties across California and Texas. Today, he shares the systems, lessons, and practical frameworks that helped him scale, and has guided more than 600 students in building their own profitable mid-term rental businesses. Want to attend the MTR summit June 4-5? Check out the BOGO deal going on now! https://midtermrentalsummit.com/ CONNECT + LEARN MORE * https://www.youtube.com/@JesseVasquezAirVenture * https://therealjessevasquez.com/ * Instagram: @therealjessevasquez Disclosure: Legal Disclosure for the SARE Ladies Podcast. The following is an important legal disclosure regarding the content of our podcast: * Entertainment Purposes Only: The content provided in all episodes of the SARE Ladies podcast, including discussions, opinions, interviews, and any other type of content, is intended solely for entertainment purposes. It should not be considered professional, financial, legal, or any other type of advice. * No Professional Advice: The hosts, guests, and producers of the SARE Ladies podcast are limited professional advisors. The content provided should not be relied upon for making any personal, financial, or business decisions. We strongly encourage our listeners to seek advice from qualified professionals before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast. * No Liability: The creators, hosts, and producers of the SARE Ladies podcast shall not be liable for any errors or omissions in the content provided, nor for any actions taken by any listener based on the information provided in the podcast. Any reliance you place on such information is therefore strictly at your own risk. * No Endorsement of Investments: While we may discuss a range of topics, including investments and financial strategies, such discussions are for illustrative and entertainment purposes only. The SARE Ladies podcast does not endorse or recommend any specific investments or financial products. * Consult Professionals: We strongly advise our listeners to consult with a qualified professional for advice tailored to their personal circumstances before making any investment or financial decisions. By listening to the SARE Ladies podcast, you acknowledge and agree to this disclaimer and understand that the content provided is not intended to replace professional advice.

S6 EP #6 | Beyond Real Estate: Owning the Business of Care with Kay Cabuco

Assisted living sits in a complicated place — somewhere between real estate, healthcare, and responsibility. And right now, demand is growing faster than supply. In this episode, we talk with Kay Cabuco about what it really looks like to build in this space. Kay started as a nurse and went on to build an 8-figure assisted living business, combining operations with ownership. We cover: * The difference between residential and commercial care homes * Why assisted living isn’t just a “real estate play” * What margins and revenue actually look like * And how to navigate the emotional and ethical side of this work If you’ve been hearing about assisted living and wondering what’s real vs what’s hype — this is a grounded place to start. 👤 MEET THE GUEST About Kay: Kay Cabuco, a nurse turned entrepreneur, is building her real estate portfolio through assisted living facilities that combine compassionate care with smart business strategy. She specializes in transforming underperforming care homes into thriving, high-quality environments for seniors while increasing operational efficiency and value 🔗 CONNECT + LEARN MORE * Instagram- kay.cabuco * Access to her training module [https://stan.store/kaycabuco/p/how-i-built-35kmonth-from-one-property-s78ebu1w] Disclosure: Legal Disclosure for the SARE Ladies Podcast. The following is an important legal disclosure regarding the content of our podcast: * Entertainment Purposes Only: The content provided in all episodes of the SARE Ladies podcast, including discussions, opinions, interviews, and any other type of content, is intended solely for entertainment purposes. It should not be considered professional, financial, legal, or any other type of advice. * No Professional Advice: The hosts, guests, and producers of the SARE Ladies podcast are limited professional advisors. The content provided should not be relied upon for making any personal, financial, or business decisions. We strongly encourage our listeners to seek advice from qualified professionals before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast. * No Liability: The creators, hosts, and producers of the SARE Ladies podcast shall not be liable for any errors or omissions in the content provided, nor for any actions taken by any listener based on the information provided in the podcast. Any reliance you place on such information is therefore strictly at your own risk. * No Endorsement of Investments: While we may discuss a range of topics, including investments and financial strategies, such discussions are for illustrative and entertainment purposes only. The SARE Ladies podcast does not endorse or recommend any specific investments or financial products. * Consult Professionals: We strongly advise our listeners to consult with a qualified professional for advice tailored to their personal circumstances before making any investment or financial decisions. By listening to the SARE Ladies podcast, you acknowledge and agree to this disclaimer and understand that the content provided is not intended to replace professional advice.

S6 EP #5 | Multifamily Distressed Deals: Opportunity or Trap? Corey and Candice Muldrow of M Group Capital

These days it feels like all that is left in the Multifamily space is distressed deals but for those that are ready to pull their sleeves up and ready for the challenge, we bring to you 2 experts, Corey and Candice Muldrow who have made it their careers tackling the most challenging properties out there. If you see an ugly property and you see a diamond in the rough, this is for you. 👤 MEET THE GUESTS Candice and Corey Muldrow Candice and Corey Muldrow are the Co-Founders of M Group Capital and M Group Residential. Together, they acquire and revitalize underperforming multifamily communities across the Dallas-Fort Worth market. Combining Corey's background in financial analysis and market strategy with Candice's hands-on operational oversight and leadership of their 15-person in-house team, they successfully transform distressed assets into thriving communities that deliver strong results for their investors. 🔗 CONNECT WITH THE MULDROWS * M Group Capital [https://www.mgroupcapital.com/] * LinkedIN: Corey Muldrow [https://www.linkedin.com/in/coreymuldrow] + Candice Muldrow [https://www.linkedin.com/in/candicemuldrow] Disclosure: Legal Disclosure for the SARE Ladies Podcast. The following is an important legal disclosure regarding the content of our podcast: * Entertainment Purposes Only: The content provided in all episodes of the SARE Ladies podcast, including discussions, opinions, interviews, and any other type of content, is intended solely for entertainment purposes. It should not be considered professional, financial, legal, or any other type of advice. * No Professional Advice: The hosts, guests, and producers of the SARE Ladies podcast are limited professional advisors. The content provided should not be relied upon for making any personal, financial, or business decisions. We strongly encourage our listeners to seek advice from qualified professionals before making any decisions based on the content of this podcast. * No Liability: The creators, hosts, and producers of the SARE Ladies podcast shall not be liable for any errors or omissions in the content provided, nor for any actions taken by any listener based on the information provided in the podcast. Any reliance you place on such information is therefore strictly at your own risk. * No Endorsement of Investments: While we may discuss a range of topics, including investments and financial strategies, such discussions are for illustrative and entertainment purposes only. The SARE Ladies podcast does not endorse or recommend any specific investments or financial products. * Consult Professionals: We strongly advise our listeners to consult with a qualified professional for advice tailored to their personal circumstances before making any investment or financial decisions. By listening to the SARE Ladies podcast, you acknowledge and agree to this disclaimer and understand that the content provided is not intended to replace professional advice.