Sometimes a Great Podcast
Season 1, Episode 83: June 10, 2026 Length: 24:51 This week, The Big Picture is in Astoria, where we sit down with Tracy Sahlberg, business analyst - and expert - for District 1. We’re talking about the work behind ODHS’ move into a new building downtown and what it takes to turn an old, empty shell into a place that can actually serve people well. The conversation begins with the building itself: a century-old Astoria space with exposed brick, unexpected footings, changing stairways, old police and fire station history, possible movie-location lore, and enough dark corners to make any communications professional immediately grateful they are only visiting. But beneath the charm and construction dust is a much bigger question about how ODHS designs spaces for the people who will use them every day. Traci talks about human-centered design as a practice of humility: recognizing that the best answers come from the staff and customers who will use the space every day. That means listening closely to needs around privacy, light, storage, safety, accessibility, customer flow, wellness spaces, children’s areas, lactation rooms, warm handoffs and the many small details that determine whether a building actually works. The episode also looks at what happens when good plans meet an old building. In a structure more than 100 years old, surprises are part of the process, and the work becomes about communicating clearly, going back to staff, rethinking the flow and finding the best possible solution within the limits of the space, budget and building. In the end, the conversation is about designing public spaces around people—the staff who serve, the communities who come through the door, and the care it takes to see the whole picture in… The Big Picture. CreditsHost: Dr. Bethany Grace Howe, CommunicationsProduced by: Dr. Bethany Grace HoweContact: bethany.g.howe@odhs.oregon.gov
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