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Lisa Riegel: How to Lead Through Change Without Burning Out the People You Need Most

20 min · 23. Juni 2026
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"A missed opportunity in a lot of organizations is for true collective shared decision making. The problem is we ask people for their feedback on things we've already decided — so they don't have a voice." That's Lisa Riegel — PhD, neuroscientist, author of five books, and someone who has spent two decades watching companies spend thousands on wall hangings with their values on them while their promotion decisions tell employees exactly what they actually value. Here's the number that should reframe your Q3 people strategy: two-thirds of the American workforce is currently burnt out and disengaging. Not dissatisfied. Not looking around. Burnt out — meaning the executive functions that drive your team's best work aren't firing, which means the change initiatives, the AI rollouts, and the culture transformations you're running right now are landing on brains that are already in survival mode. Lisa's work sits at the intersection of brain science and organizational systems, and her message to the C-suite is direct: the human system isn't soft. It's the infrastructure everything else runs on — and most executives were never taught how to build it. What executives take away from this conversation: * Why your culture initiative is failing before it starts — culture isn't words on a wall or swag with your values printed on it; it's who you promote, what behavior you tolerate, and how you lead on a Tuesday afternoon when nothing is on fire * The four types of talking every leader needs to know — directives, data analysis, dialog, and discussion each serve a different purpose in a meeting; conflating them is why your people leave your all-hands more confused and less committed than when they walked in * What your AI rollout is actually doing to your team's identity — when you automate a process, you don't just change a workflow; you strip someone of their expert status and tell them they're a novice again; understanding that transition through neuroscience changes how you manage it #H2H #RelationshipDrivenGrowth #StartupLeadership #B2BRelationships #ClientRetention === You can connect with Lisa Riegel here: www.lisariegel.com [http://www.lisariegel.com] https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisariegel/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisariegel/] www.epinstitute.net [http://www.epinstitute.net] www.jakapa.com [http://www.jakapa.com] Amazon author page You can connect with Karl Pontau here: www.vouchedconnections.com [http://www.vouchedconnections.com] www.thehumanconnectionpodcast.com [http://www.thehumanconnectionpodcast.com] https://www.linkedin.com/in/kpontau [https://www.linkedin.com/in/kpontau] https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUbf_bDWwB9KVrFn5Sj3u2w?sub_confirmation=1 [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUbf_bDWwB9KVrFn5Sj3u2w?sub_confirmation=1] Please like, subscribe, and share this episode with somebody you care about!

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Episode Lisa Riegel: How to Lead Through Change Without Burning Out the People You Need Most Cover

Lisa Riegel: How to Lead Through Change Without Burning Out the People You Need Most

"A missed opportunity in a lot of organizations is for true collective shared decision making. The problem is we ask people for their feedback on things we've already decided — so they don't have a voice." That's Lisa Riegel — PhD, neuroscientist, author of five books, and someone who has spent two decades watching companies spend thousands on wall hangings with their values on them while their promotion decisions tell employees exactly what they actually value. Here's the number that should reframe your Q3 people strategy: two-thirds of the American workforce is currently burnt out and disengaging. Not dissatisfied. Not looking around. Burnt out — meaning the executive functions that drive your team's best work aren't firing, which means the change initiatives, the AI rollouts, and the culture transformations you're running right now are landing on brains that are already in survival mode. Lisa's work sits at the intersection of brain science and organizational systems, and her message to the C-suite is direct: the human system isn't soft. It's the infrastructure everything else runs on — and most executives were never taught how to build it. What executives take away from this conversation: * Why your culture initiative is failing before it starts — culture isn't words on a wall or swag with your values printed on it; it's who you promote, what behavior you tolerate, and how you lead on a Tuesday afternoon when nothing is on fire * The four types of talking every leader needs to know — directives, data analysis, dialog, and discussion each serve a different purpose in a meeting; conflating them is why your people leave your all-hands more confused and less committed than when they walked in * What your AI rollout is actually doing to your team's identity — when you automate a process, you don't just change a workflow; you strip someone of their expert status and tell them they're a novice again; understanding that transition through neuroscience changes how you manage it #H2H #RelationshipDrivenGrowth #StartupLeadership #B2BRelationships #ClientRetention === You can connect with Lisa Riegel here: www.lisariegel.com [http://www.lisariegel.com] https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisariegel/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisariegel/] www.epinstitute.net [http://www.epinstitute.net] www.jakapa.com [http://www.jakapa.com] Amazon author page You can connect with Karl Pontau here: www.vouchedconnections.com [http://www.vouchedconnections.com] www.thehumanconnectionpodcast.com [http://www.thehumanconnectionpodcast.com] https://www.linkedin.com/in/kpontau [https://www.linkedin.com/in/kpontau] https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUbf_bDWwB9KVrFn5Sj3u2w?sub_confirmation=1 [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUbf_bDWwB9KVrFn5Sj3u2w?sub_confirmation=1] Please like, subscribe, and share this episode with somebody you care about!

23. Juni 202620 min
Episode Deepak Bhootra: How to Stop Being a Vendor and Start Being a Trusted Advisor Cover

Deepak Bhootra: How to Stop Being a Vendor and Start Being a Trusted Advisor

"Trust is never given. It is earned through repeated proof of intent. And you need to be competent — because you cannot earn trust by simply showing proof of intent alone." That's Deepak Bhootra — leadership coach, author, and the person who spent 30 years in global corporate leadership before coaching over 1,500 professionals — and he said it like he's tired of watching companies blow it by only getting half the equation right. Here's what Deepak is actually describing: the gap between the vendor your clients tolerate and the trusted advisor they protect. In a market where your competitors look the same, price about the same, and pitch about the same, the differentiator isn't your product. It's whether your people are in reactive mode or proactive mode, running scripts or running conversations, closing deals or solving problems. The executives who figure this out stop losing clients to cheaper alternatives. The ones who don't keep wondering why retention is harder than it looks on paper. What executives take away from this conversation: * The vendor vs. trusted advisor diagnostic — count how many interactions are reactive versus proactive; the ratio tells you exactly where your client relationships actually stand, not where you think they do * Why trust has two buckets — and you need both — proof of intent without competence leaves you liked but not relied on; competence without proof of intent leaves you useful but replaceable; Deepak's framework for keeping both funded simultaneously * The neuroscience of the sales conversation — when your buyer starts sharing unprompted, their guard has dropped; that's the signal you've been waiting for, and most salespeople talk right through it * Why scripts are destroying your deals — your customer doesn't have a script, and the moment they go off yours, the whole conversation exposes you; what to do instead when you need structure without rigidity * The pattern break that sells without selling — the BMW story: one salesperson who opened with "that's an ugly car" closed a deal by making trust the product, not the vehicle; what executives can steal from that approach immediately #H2H #RelationshipDrivenGrowth #StartupLeadership #B2BRelationships #ClientRetention === You can connect with Deepak Bhootra here: https://wefunder.com/riseupatwork [https://wefunder.com/riseupatwork] Investor Q&A Video: https://youtu.be/HT9-c5RLpuA?si=0JM_JZwID7q5ZM_Z [https://youtu.be/HT9-c5RLpuA?si=0JM_JZwID7q5ZM_Z] https://www.deepakbhootra.com [https://www.deepakbhootra.com] You can connect with Karl Pontau here: www.vouchedconnections.com [http://www.vouchedconnections.com] www.thehumanconnectionpodcast.com [http://www.thehumanconnectionpodcast.com] https://www.linkedin.com/in/kpontau [https://www.linkedin.com/in/kpontau] https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUbf_bDWwB9KVrFn5Sj3u2w?sub_confirmation=1 [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUbf_bDWwB9KVrFn5Sj3u2w?sub_confirmation=1] Please like, subscribe, and share this episode with somebody you care about!

18. Juni 202622 min
Episode Your Team Nodded. They Had No Idea What You Said. That's Not on Them. | Myke Wilder Cover

Your Team Nodded. They Had No Idea What You Said. That's Not on Them. | Myke Wilder

"You have to pay attention to the fact that you're speaking to people for whom English is not their first language. We do that all the time — but we don't think about second language speakers as an audience we need to cater to." That's Myke Wilder — ESL coach, TED speaker, and someone who has spent three decades in corporate communications working in two languages — and he's describing a gap hiding in plain sight inside most scaling companies right now. Here's the number that should stop you: miscommunication costs U.S. businesses $1.2 trillion a year. Not misalignment. Not strategy failures. Communication — the stuff happening in your all-hands, your 1:1s, and your cross-functional meetings — breaking down because your ethnic English-speaking leaders have never been trained to speak to the 2.2 billion people in the world for whom English is a second language. Myke's work isn't remedial English training. It's a multilingual mindset shift that starts with the leader, runs through the culture, and shows up directly in retention, safety, and team performance. What executives take away from this conversation: * Why your multilingual team isn't underperforming — your communication is — over 80% of the world's 2.2 billion second-language English speakers can't understand conversational connected speech; your leadership team is likely speaking in a register that excludes a significant slice of your workforce * The $1.2 trillion miscommunication problem hiding in your org chart — workplace accidents, preventable errors, and avoidable turnover all trace back to language gaps that no one has put on the leadership agenda * How to verify comprehension without making people feel stupid — never ask "did you understand?"; ask "what are the first two things you're going to do when this conversation ends?" — it's a different question with a completely different answer #H2H #RelationshipDrivenGrowth #StartupLeadership #B2BRelationships #ClientRetention === You can connect with Myke Wilder here: https://www.mykewilder.com [https://www.mykewilder.com] https://www.linkedin.com/in/mykewilder/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/mykewilder/] https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRSSlZBPHnEIbO2l_yQe9ew [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRSSlZBPHnEIbO2l_yQe9ew] TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mykewilderlinguistics [https://www.tiktok.com/@mykewilderlinguistics] SUBSTACK Blog: https://mykewilder.substack.com/p/21st-century-english [https://mykewilder.substack.com/p/21st-century-english] You can connect with Karl Pontau here: www.vouchedconnections.com [http://www.vouchedconnections.com] www.thehumanconnectionpodcast.com [http://www.thehumanconnectionpodcast.com] https://www.linkedin.com/in/kpontau [https://www.linkedin.com/in/kpontau] https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUbf_bDWwB9KVrFn5Sj3u2w?sub_confirmation=1 [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUbf_bDWwB9KVrFn5Sj3u2w?sub_confirmation=1] Please like, subscribe, and share this episode with somebody you care about!

17. Juni 202622 min
Episode Charlene Li: Your AI Rollout Is a Leadership Problem, Not a Technology Problem Cover

Charlene Li: Your AI Rollout Is a Leadership Problem, Not a Technology Problem

"AI is not just a technology problem that you have. It's going to be a human talent retention issue — if you don't get your act together on this." That's Charlene Li — NYT bestselling author, Harvard grad, and one of Fast Company's Most Creative People in Business — and she said it in the first minute of this conversation. If your leadership team is treating AI like a software rollout, this episode is going to be uncomfortable in the most useful way. Charlene's new book, Winning with AI: The 90-Day Blueprint for Success, isn't about the technology. It's about the human infrastructure that determines whether your company captures AI's upside or just spends a lot of money finding out it doesn't. Speed is the moat — but only if your culture, your trust architecture, and your leadership team's communication muscles are ready to carry it. What executives take away from this conversation: * Why your AI strategy is failing before it starts — and the one reframe (AI supports your business strategy, not the other way around) that separates companies getting ROI from companies chasing the hype * The talent retention trap hiding inside your AI rollout — your best people will leave for organizations that let them learn; withholding time and tools isn't caution, it's attrition * Why speed is the only moat — and why going too fast destroys it — the paradox of slowing down to upskill so you can actually accelerate competitively * The psychological safety problem no one on your leadership team is naming — only 39% of Americans believe AI will be more beneficial than harmful; your workforce is starting from fear, not excitement * How to become AI-fluent as a leader — Charlene's practical move: use AI to tell you how to use AI, and start asking your team how they used it to prepare for this meeting #H2H #RelationshipDrivenGrowth #StartupLeadership #B2BRelationships #AILeadership === You can connect with Charlene Li here: winningwithaibook.com [http://winningwithaibook.com] charleneli.com [http://charleneli.com] You can connect with Karl Pontau here: www.vouchedconnections.com [http://www.vouchedconnections.com] www.thehumanconnectionpodcast.com [http://www.thehumanconnectionpodcast.com] https://www.linkedin.com/in/kpontau [https://www.linkedin.com/in/kpontau] https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUbf_bDWwB9KVrFn5Sj3u2w?sub_confirmation=1 [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUbf_bDWwB9KVrFn5Sj3u2w?sub_confirmation=1] Please like, subscribe, and share this episode with somebody you care about!

16. Juni 202622 min
Episode Lincoln Bleveans on Change Management as the New Leadership Superpower Cover

Lincoln Bleveans on Change Management as the New Leadership Superpower

"The only reason I can do what I do is because 100 other people do what they do — up and down and across the org chart." — Lincoln Bleveans Your company just spent $400K on a new platform. Six months later, your team is working around it the same way they always did. Lincoln Bleveans has watched this movie hundreds of times across nearly 30 years in global energy leadership — and now at Stanford, where he runs mission-critical operations at one of the world's most complex research institutions. The software isn't the problem. It never was. The problem is that you treated change management as the cherry on top instead of the foundation underneath. Lincoln's argument is blunt: technology is complicated. Human beings are complex. Complicated problems have solutions. Complex ones require something different — applied empathy, psychological safety, and the discipline to meet people where they actually are, not where your rollout timeline expects them to be. This isn't a conversation about being nicer at work. It's about why your AI initiatives are stalling, why your last software implementation became an orphaned system nobody uses, and why the executives who figure out change management first are the ones who actually get the efficiency gains everyone else is just slide-decking about. In this episode, you'll get: * Why your brain is wired to treat organizational change like a predator on the Serengeti — and what that means for every rollout you've ever led * The orphaned software problem: why technically sound implementations fail when human behavior is treated as an afterthought * The one thing that has to come before any change initiative — and why skipping it discounts everything you build on top of it * Why change management isn't a workshop; it's habit infrastructure — and the specific reinforcement cadence that actually makes new behaviors stick * The skip-level strategy Lincoln uses to build psychological safety before he needs it — not after the initiative breaks down The executives who keep losing their people to change fatigue aren't bad leaders. They're leading the technology and managing around the humans. Lincoln shows you exactly what it looks like to reverse that. Watch now — and send this to your CTO before the next AI rollout meeting. #H2H #StartupLeadership #HumanConnectionPodcast #B2BRelationships #RelationshipDrivenGrowth === You can connect with Lincoln Bleveans here: www.lincolnbleveans.com [http://www.lincolnbleveans.com] www.climatepluspod.com [http://www.climatepluspod.com] www.youtube.com/@EdisonSquints You can connect with Karl Pontau here: www.vouchedconnections.com [http://www.vouchedconnections.com] www.thehumanconnectionpodcast.com [http://www.thehumanconnectionpodcast.com] https://www.linkedin.com/in/kpontau [https://www.linkedin.com/in/kpontau] https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUbf_bDWwB9KVrFn5Sj3u2w?sub_confirmation=1 [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUbf_bDWwB9KVrFn5Sj3u2w?sub_confirmation=1] Please like, subscribe, and share this episode with somebody you care about!

11. Juni 202621 min