The Initial
Maarten van Pijpen spent 15 years at Booking.com. a place where experimentation wasn’t a project. it was the culture. now he’s chief growth officer at Unravel. a travel app that feels like TikTok, but lets you book instantly. in his first 35 days, he: – chose an experimentation tool – lined up 10 experiments – started building a data foundation but this conversation isn’t about tooling. it’s about: → how to move from top-down founder energy to bottom-up ownership → why shipping fast without tracking is dangerous → how a €1M mistake didn’t kill his career (but actually strengthened it) → why failures were celebrated at Booking → how to scale leadership so you’re not the bottleneck we talk about culture. trust. empowerment. and what it really takes to build a data-driven company — without killing speed. if you care about experimentation, growth, or leading teams in scale-ups and how all of these dynamics work, this podcast is for you.
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