Annie Choi: real talk on dating in 2026, being a boss lady + finding her unicorn 🦄

Joanna Fajardo: I was in a high-control religious group

Annnnnd we're back!! Did you miss us? This week in TNR, buckle up for a wild life story from our guest, Joanna Fajardo. Joanna grew up very religious. Once she got a bit older, certain things she witnessed started to making her question everything she knew. She had a realization that she was in what she calls a "high-control group", often referred to as ... a cult. She exited years ago, and that came with major life-altering changes she openly explains in detail. To leave meant to lose touch with her whole family, but it also meant being true to herself. She was finally able to embrace her queerness -- her favorite thing about herself. Joanna offers several key takeaways for those looking to navigate life after leaving a high-control group: - Embrace Your Authenticity: Finding and embracing your true self is paramount. Joanna encourages individuals to explore their identities outside the confines of their upbringing. - Seek Support: Connecting with others who have had similar experiences can be invaluable. Joanna found solace in sharing her story with others who understood what she went through. - Challenge Fear: Recognizing that fear is often a tool used by high-control groups can help individuals reclaim their power. Joanna urges those in similar situations to question the narratives they've been taught. *If you or someone you know needs help or are looking for resources, we've included some links in the Helpful links section below ⤵️ Follow TNR on Substack + socials: https://www.youtube.com/@thenakedroompod [https://www.youtube.com/@thenakedroompod] https://substack.com/@thenakedroompod [https://substack.com/@thenakedroompod] https://www.instagram.com/thenakedroompod [https://www.instagram.com/thenakedroompod] https://www.tiktok.com/@thenakedroompod [https://www.tiktok.com/@thenakedroompod] Wanna write in with a question? Have a comment? Email TNR: nakedroompodcast@gmail.com [nakedroompodcast@gmail.com] Call us and leave an anonymous VM: ‪+1 (213) 537-9791‬ Helpful links / shoutouts: When we asked Joanna what causes she wanted to call out, she did not hesitate: Human Rights Campaign. Great cause, great mission. Donate if you can: https://www.hrc.org/ [https://www.hrc.org/] Below are some helpful resources if you are looking for support: https://internationalculticstudies.org/ [https://internationalculticstudies.org/] https://www.peopleleavecults.com/ [https://www.peopleleavecults.com/] https://culteducation.com/directory-of-cult-recovery-resources.html [https://culteducation.com/directory-of-cult-recovery-resources.html] https://www.lalichcenter.org/ [https://www.lalichcenter.org/] JL’s referenced a church she went to that didn’t use musical instruments … it’s called The Church of Christ Sponsor discount codes: Solaray [https://solaray.com/], for 20% off use THENAKEDROOM at checkout Free Bird [https://drinkfreebird.com/] (Kelly + JL’s FAVORITE water), for 10% off use NakedRoom10 at checkout Get full access to The Naked Room at thenakedroompod.substack.com/subscribe [https://thenakedroompod.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4]

Listener voicemail! "How do you forgive yourself?"

When a listener called in and left a voicemail on TNR hotline, the Kelly and JL jumped on making an episode out of it! The topic of forgiveness is a hard one for a lot of people ... how do you forgive someone else, and just as importantly, how do you forgive yourself? What does it take? How can you truly let go? Kelly and JL do some cathartic friend therapy: Kelly dives into a very personal circumstance of learning to forgive herself and JL how far she's come with not letting other people's opinions dictate how she feels about herself. Follow TNR on Substack + socials: https://www.youtube.com/@thenakedroompod [https://www.youtube.com/@thenakedroompod] https://substack.com/@thenakedroompod [https://substack.com/@thenakedroompod] https://www.instagram.com/thenakedroompod [https://www.instagram.com/thenakedroompod] https://www.tiktok.com/@thenakedroompod [https://www.tiktok.com/@thenakedroompod] Wanna write in with a question? Have a comment? Email TNR: nakedroompodcast@gmail.com [nakedroompodcast@gmail.com] Call us and leave an anonymous VM: ‪+1 (213) 537-9791‬ Sponsor discount codes: Solaray [https://solaray.com/], for 20% off use THENAKEDROOM at checkout Free Bird [https://drinkfreebird.com/] (Kelly + JL’s FAVORITE water), for 10% off use NakedRoom10 at checkout Get full access to The Naked Room at thenakedroompod.substack.com/subscribe [https://thenakedroompod.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4]

Delaney Debinski: Moving to Europe, Offline Clubs and overcoming the Freelancer's Dilemma

This week in TNR, Kelly and JL chat with Delaney Debinski! Skydiving, new media entrepreneurship, and moving across the pond, OH MY! Delaney relocated to Belgium from the States, and that’s influenced all facets of her life. She created Delavie Creative (in French, delavie means “of life”) to help her clients strike a balance between the work and the personal to build a sustainable lifestyle. And to set better boundaries around knowing when it’s time to turn OFF … before the dreaded BURNOUT. insert melty face emoji here. Listen in to hear Delaney’s actionable tips on how to achieve striking a better balance! This is your sign to shut down, put your phone to bed, and go to yoga class. Delaney Debinski ⤵️ (Hire this woman. She’ll change your life!) https://delaviecreative.com/ https://www.instagram.com/hey_there_delaney/ https://www.instagram.com/delaviecreative/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/delaviecreative/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/delaneydebinski/ https://www.youtube.com/@delaviecreative https://www.youtube.com/@hey_there_delaney Follow TNR on Substack + socials: https://www.youtube.com/@thenakedroompod [https://www.youtube.com/@thenakedroompod] https://substack.com/@thenakedroompod [https://substack.com/@thenakedroompod] https://www.instagram.com/thenakedroompod [https://www.instagram.com/thenakedroompod] https://www.tiktok.com/@thenakedroompod [https://www.tiktok.com/@thenakedroompod]Wanna write in with a question? Have a comment? Email TNR: nakedroompodcast@gmail.com [nakedroompodcast@gmail.com] Call us and leave an anonymous VM:‪+1 (213) 537-9791‬Helpful links / shoutouts: Unplugged Cabins (in the UK): https://unplugged.rest/ (Manifesting a TNR retreat 🙏) The Offline Club. SIGN. ME. UP. https://www.theoffline-club.com/ Booksmart. “Malalaaaa!” https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6062774/ Sponsor discount codes:Solaray, for 20% off use THENAKEDROOM at checkout https://solaray.com/Free Bird (Kelly + JL’s FAVORITE water), for 10% off use NakedRoom10 at checkout\ https://drinkfreebird.com/ Get full access to The Naked Room at thenakedroompod.substack.com/subscribe [https://thenakedroompod.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4]

Kelly's mom's in TNR! Reflections and celebrations: motherhood + being a daughter

TNR’s #1 MVP and supporter, Kelly’s mom, Brenda Lawson, joins Kelly + JL to celebrate the holiest of all the Hallmark holidays, Mother’s Day. Tune in for reflections on motherhood and being a daughter. Being a mom is the most wonderful (and scariest and frustrating and incredible, on and on — all the emotions) experience any woman can have. There’s no relationship like that of the one between a mother and daughter. Kelly and her mom dive into some childhood memories, and Brenda remembers her mom and how great of a listener she was. JL emphasizes how her mom, “Hot Donna”, has always led with kindness and how she taught JL the value of good, hard work. This episode is just wholesome af and has all the feels. Drop in and give your nervous system the break that it needs 🧡 Follow TNR on Substack + socials: https://www.youtube.com/@thenakedroompod https://substack.com/@thenakedroompod https://www.instagram.com/thenakedroompod https://www.tiktok.com/@thenakedroompod Wanna write in with a question? Have a comment? Email TNR: nakedroompodcast@gmail.com Call us and leave an anonymous VM:‪ +1 (213) 537-9791‬ Sponsor discount codes: Solaray, for 20% off use THENAKEDROOM at checkout https://solaray.com/ Free Bird (Kelly + JL’s FAVORITE water), for 10% off use NakedRoom10 at checkout https://drinkfreebird.com/ Get full access to The Naked Room at thenakedroompod.substack.com/subscribe [https://thenakedroompod.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4]

Annie Choi: real talk on dating in 2026, being a boss lady + finding her unicorn 🦄

This week in TNR, Annie Choi joins Kelly and JL to talk about something that sometimes feels like the Wild West: dating and relationships in 2026. Being on the apps is exhausting, and Annie shares her insights on the current dating landscape: the good, the bad, and the face palm moments. Like that one time a dude asked her how they would keep in touch after she said she was getting off the apps. DUDE. Come on. Maybe ask for her number, bro! Being THE boss lady (Found Coffee just celebrated 11 years of business!!) and a community SUPERSTAR, Annie’s the best catch in town. Annie Choi + Found Coffee (in Eagle Rock, Los Angeles) ⤵️: https://www.linkedin.com/in/choiannie/ https://www.instagram.com/foundcoffeela https://www.foundcoffeela.com/ Follow TNR on Substack + socials: https://www.youtube.com/@thenakedroompod [https://www.youtube.com/@thenakedroompod] https://substack.com/@thenakedroompod [https://substack.com/@thenakedroompod] https://www.instagram.com/thenakedroompod [https://www.instagram.com/thenakedroompod] https://www.tiktok.com/@thenakedroompod [https://www.tiktok.com/@thenakedroompod]Wanna write in with a question? Have a comment? Email TNR: nakedroompodcast@gmail.com [nakedroompodcast@gmail.com] Call us and leave an anonymous VM:‪ +1 (213) 537-9791‬ Helpful links / shoutouts: Pitch your single friends for dates! There are TONS of cities in the US and beyond where they do these events! https://www.pitch-a-friend.com/losangeles https://www.instagram.com/pitchafriend.losangeles/ Sponsor discount codes:Solaray, for 20% off use THENAKEDROOM at checkout https://solaray.com/Free Bird (Kelly + JL’s FAVORITE water), for 10% off use NakedRoom10 at checkout https://drinkfreebird.com/ Get full access to The Naked Room at thenakedroompod.substack.com/subscribe [https://thenakedroompod.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4]