Vision Is Not Enough: How a CEO and COO Scale a National Nonprofit Together - with Vincent Marigna and Alex Serna

From Classroom to Movement: How Dominique Lee is Reshaping Education

From classroom teacher to founder of a cradle to career movement, Dominique Lee built the BRICK Education Network in Newark to do what schools alone never could: support a child and their family from before birth all the way through a career. In this episode of The Stronger Podcast, Mike Montoya sits down with Dominique Lee, founder and CEO of BRICK Education Network, to talk about what it actually takes to change outcomes for Black and brown children when the system was never built for them in the first place. Dominique traces the path from a Teach For America placement in Newark's South Ward to the moment he decided he was done. After watching his district treat a school full of Black children as the place to dump teachers nobody else wanted, he asked a simple question about what to do next, and BRICK was the answer. Fifteen years later, what started as five young teachers with an amorphous plan is now a two generation model spanning maternal health, schools, housing, and workforce development. Mike and Dominique get into why trust is built by listening and then executing, not by running another focus group. They dig into the equity argument at the center of his work: communities should not have to fight for the basics that wealthier neighborhoods simply expect, and systems, not exhausted families, should carry the load. Tune in to hear why Dominique believes the way forward starts with denying yourself and picking up something bigger than your own mission. 🎙️ 00:50 Want a podcast just like this one? Check out www.podcastsmatter.com [http://www.podcastsmatter.com] 🧱 01:11 Meet Dominique Lee and the BRICK Education Network 🚗 02:13 Growing up between Pontiac and Bloomfield Hills, Michigan ⛪ 06:12 The faith that still guides every decision he makes 📚 10:00 Need help with your book? Visit www.booksthatmatter.org [http://www.booksthatmatter.org] 🍎 12:54 From Teach For America to the day he walked away from the classroom 🙏 17:55 One question at Riverside Church, and five teachers with an amorphous plan 🌱 19:51 Building a cradle to career model, from maternal health to workforce 👂 24:51 How trust gets built: listen, then execute, skip the focus group 🏥 28:34 The wellness center the community told him not to build ⚖️ 33:29 Why systems, not exhausted families, should carry the load 🤝 37:25 The real problem is that people don't trust people 💡 43:47 Go from expert to thought leader at www.geniusdiscovery.org [http://www.geniusdiscovery.org] 🔥 44:25 Abundance over zero sum, and the case against scarcity thinking ✝️ 49:00 Deny yourself and pick up something bigger than your own mission 🌐 52:31 Find more podcasts that matter at www.podcaststhatmatter.org [http://www.podcaststhatmatter.org] Links LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/dominique-lee [https://www.linkedin.com/in/dominique-lee-3b785620/] Company: BRICK Network [https://www.linkedin.com/company/bricknetworks/posts/?feedView=all] Website: bricknetworks.org [https://www.bricknetworks.org/] Reach out to Dominique Lee to learn more about the cradle to career model BRICK is building in Newark's South Ward and beyond. Connect with Mike: www.linkedin.com/in/mmsc [https://www.linkedin.com/in/mmsc/] Stronger Consulting: strongerconsulting.com [https://strongerconsulting.com/] Publish a Book That Matters:  booksthatmatter.org [http://booksthatmatter.org/] Start a Podcast That Matters:  podcastsmatter.com [https://podcastsmatter.com/] Go from Expert to Thought Leader: geniusdiscovery.org [http://geniusdiscovery.org/]  For more great podcasts like this one, visit https://podcaststhatmatter.org [https://podcaststhatmatter.org/] Stay strong.

Make the Exception the Rule: Why Strong School Boards Decide Who Gets Opportunity, with Ethan Ashley

Ethan Ashley got handcuffed at a police precinct at age six for stealing a pack of gum. He went on to finish high school at sixteen, earn a law degree from Howard by twenty-two, win an elected school board seat, and build a national organization that trains the people deciding what happens in your kid's classroom. His throughline: his story should have been the rule, not the exception. In this episode of The Stronger Podcast, Mike Montoya sits down with Ethan, former school board member and CEO of School Board Partners, to talk about why elected school boards are one of the most powerful and least understood levers in American public education. Ethan traces an unlikely arc: born in Lakewood, raised in Compton, sleeping on the couch of a Hispanic family in East LA so he could stay dual-enrolled in community college as a high school freshman. A college recruiter who paid attention to an eighth grader, and a mentor who picked up the phone to Howard the day before a missed deadline, are the kind of people he credits for everything that followed. He started his legal career representing kids sentenced to die in prison, working the Louisiana arm of Bryan Stevenson's Equal Justice Initiative, before deciding he wanted to work at the front end of the school-to-prison pipeline instead. Ethan and Mike get into why most school board members have no idea what they signed up for, what Brown v. Board actually turned on, and the three things leaders almost never say: I'm sorry, I don't know, and I need help. Listen in for a conversation about opportunity, the people who open doors, and building systems so the next kid does not have to be the exception. 🎙️ 00:53 Want a podcast just like this one? Check out www.podcastsmatter.com [http://www.podcastsmatter.com] 🛫 01:32 Meet Ethan Ashley: from row 14F to leading school boards across the country 🏠 02:07 Born in Lakewood, raised in Compton, and a grandmother who went west 🎓 05:08 The recruiter and the mentor who opened the door to Howard 🛋️ 07:10 The East LA family whose couch made dual enrollment possible 📚 13:54 Find support for writing your impact-driven book at www.booksthatmatter.org [http://www.booksthatmatter.org] ⚖️ 15:09 A pack of gum, handcuffs at six, and why he chose the law 🏛️ 19:00 What Brown v. Board actually turned on: the school board nobody names 🗳️ 25:25 Good people get elected, then learn being an advocate is not the same as governing 🙏 31:29 The three things leaders never say: I'm sorry, I don't know, and I need help 🌟 31:58 If you are a leader or changemaker looking for support, check out www.geniusdiscovery.org [http://www.geniusdiscovery.org] 🤝 34:24 Meeting the moment: ICE, school closures, and AI inside School Board Partners 🧭 43:26 Advice to his younger self: stay curious and connect deeply 🎧 47:49 Find more podcasts that matter at www.podcaststhatmatter.org [http://www.podcaststhatmatter.org] Links: LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/ethanashley [http://linkedin.com/in/ethanashley] Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ethancashley/ [https://www.instagram.com/ethancashley/] Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/ethancashley [https://twitter.com/ethancashley] School Board Partners: https://www.schoolboardpartners.org/ [https://www.schoolboardpartners.org/] School Board Partners on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/school-board-partners/ [https://www.linkedin.com/company/school-board-partners/] Connect with Ethan Ashley on LinkedIn or explore School Board Partners to learn more about how it supports elected school board members across the country to lead with courage, competence, and impact, including the Our Collective Power national conference. Connect with Mike: www.linkedin.com/in/mmsc [https://www.linkedin.com/in/mmsc/] Stronger Consulting: strongerconsulting.com [https://strongerconsulting.com/] Publish a Book That Matters:  booksthatmatter.org [http://booksthatmatter.org/] Start a Podcast That Matters:  podcastsmatter.com [https://podcastsmatter.com/] Go from Expert to Thought Leader: geniusdiscovery.org [http://geniusdiscovery.org/]  For more great podcasts like this one, visit https://podcaststhatmatter.org [https://podcaststhatmatter.org/] Stay strong.

Proving Schools Can Get Better at Scale: Doubling Teacher Planning Time and Leading on Equity with Catherine Suitor

Catherine Suitor has spent two decades proving that schools can get better at scale, and she has the data to back it up.  As Executive Director of the Alliance College-Ready Public Schools Foundation, Catherine has helped Alliance grow into one of the largest and most successful nonprofit charter networks in the country, serving 13,000 scholars across 26 schools in Los Angeles. When Alliance opened in 2004, LAUSD was graduating 49% of its students. Alliance has graduated nearly 100% from the start, and LAUSD's rate is now 82%. In this episode of The Stronger Podcast, Mike Montoya sits down with Catherine Suitor to talk about what it takes to build schools that meet kids where they actually are, not where the system assumes they should be. Catherine breaks down Alliance's schedule redesign pilot, which has doubled teacher planning time without cutting scholar instruction, and explains why teacher retention and scholar outcomes both went up. She also shares why Alliance has taken a deliberate pro-Black stance inside a 90% Latino network, and how the foundation is approaching AI as a tool to support educators rather than replace them. On fundraising, Catherine is clear: people basically want to do good, and the job is to give them the chance. Her line on serving students: equity is not equality, and people show up to the door with different needs. Tune in to hear why Catherine believes the original promise of charters was never to take over public education, but to prove what was possible and bring everyone else along. Chapters: 🎙️ 00:57 Want a podcast just like this one? Check out www.podcastsmatter.com [http://www.podcastsmatter.com] 🌅 01:23 Meet Catherine Suitor: Alliance Foundation Executive Director and lifelong California fundraiser 🎒 01:48 From parochial school to The Breakfast Club: growing up across every kind of K-12 🌎 09:42 Why a history major was the best preparation for the work she does today ✊🏽 12:22 Central American solidarity in the eighties and the roots of her advocacy career 💬 15:13 Learning to fundraise on the job: press releases, phone banks, and the first ask 📚 21:11 Find support for your impact-driven book at www.booksthatmatter.org [http://www.booksthatmatter.org] 🤝 22:10 Why fundraising is matchmaking, and what makes a great donor visit ⚖️ 25:39 Going pro-Black inside a 90 percent Latino network: what Alliance learned from its scholars 🏫 30:25 The original promise of charters: prove what works and bring everyone along 📊 33:01 Defensive advocacy and proactive advocacy: how Alliance is sharing what it knows 🌟 40:10 If you are a leader or changemaker, check out www.geniusdiscovery.org [http://www.geniusdiscovery.org] 🚪 42:21 Closing a school the right way: a year of community engagement and an LAUSD board member's request ⏱️ 45:36 Doubling teacher planning time: the schedule redesign that is keeping educators in the profession 🤖 46:26 AI as a tool for educators, with multilingual and special ed scholars at the center 🧭 49:23 What younger leaders should take from the cycles she has seen across forty years of social change 🎧 57:51 Find more podcasts that matter at www.podcaststhatmatter.org [http://www.podcaststhatmatter.org] Links: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/catherine-suitor-70218613/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/catherine-suitor-70218613/] Alliance Foundation: https://laalliancefoundation.org/ [https://laalliancefoundation.org/] ERS case study on Alliance's schedule redesign: https://www.erstrategies.org/tap/alliance-teacher-schedules/ [https://www.erstrategies.org/tap/alliance-teacher-schedules/] Connect with Catherine Suitor on LinkedIn or explore the Alliance Foundation's work to learn more about what it takes to build and sustain great public schools at scale.   Connect with Mike: www.linkedin.com/in/mmsc [https://www.linkedin.com/in/mmsc/] Stronger Consulting: strongerconsulting.com [https://strongerconsulting.com/] Publish a Book That Matters:  booksthatmatter.org [http://booksthatmatter.org/] Start a Podcast That Matters:  podcastsmatter.com [https://podcastsmatter.com/] Go from Expert to Thought Leader: geniusdiscovery.org [http://geniusdiscovery.org/]  For more great podcasts like this one, visit https://podcaststhatmatter.org [https://podcaststhatmatter.org/] Stay strong.

Belonging Is Not a Side Issue: The Charter School Coalition That Can Still Say "Diversity" with Sonia Park

Charter school leader Sonia Park spent her childhood as one of the only kids of color in suburban Philadelphia schools, then watched her own son experience the same othering thirty years later in New York City. She runs the Diverse Charter Schools Coalition because belonging is not a side issue. It is the thing that determines whether kids can thrive. In this episode of The Stronger Podcast, Mike Montoya sits down with Sonia, Executive Director of the Diverse Charter Schools Coalition, to talk about why intentionally diverse public schools matter and what it takes to keep building them in a moment when the word "diversity" itself is under federal fire. Sonia traces her own arc: clean carpets and isolation in the suburbs, older buildings and belonging in the city, two years in Korea that taught her what freedom actually feels like to take for granted, and a winding path through Edison Schools, the New York City DOE under Dennis Walcott, and the U.S. Department of Education under Secretary John King. She is candid about the moment she realized her son was experiencing the same marginalization she had, and what that anger turned into. DCSC now represents 106 networks and over 280 schools across 26 states and Washington, D.C. Sonia explains why the coalition can say things its member schools no longer can, and why running by herself every day is how she leads. Listen in for a conversation about belonging and the leadership practice of forgiving yourself when you are not perfect. Chapters: 🎙️ 00:53 Want a podcast just like this one? Check out www.podcastsmatter.com [http://www.podcastsmatter.com] 👋 01:32 Meet Sonia Park: from Philadelphia kid to leading 280 charter schools 🏘️ 02:21 Clean carpets versus older buildings: what each kind of school taught her about belonging 🌏 05:55 Two years in Korea: tear gas, cab drivers, and what freedom really means 📰 19:48 An Edison newspaper ad and a charter school career started by accident 🏛️ 23:18 From Manhattan Charter Schools to Secretary John King's Department of Education 📚 26:54 Find support for writing your impact-driven book at www.booksthatmatter.org [http://www.booksthatmatter.org] 💼 28:30 There was no path: how Sonia weighed each career pivot 🤝 33:31 Inside DCSC: how 106 networks build belonging together 🛡️ 36:42 The coalition that can say what its member schools no longer can 🌟 39:18 If you are a leader or changemaker looking for support, check out www.geniusdiscovery.org [http://www.geniusdiscovery.org] 🏃 43:36 Running alone every day and the leadership practice of forgiving yourself 🎧 53:35 Find more podcasts that matter at www.podcaststhatmatter.org [http://www.podcaststhatmatter.org] Links: Connect with Sonia C. Park: LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/sonia-c-park/] Diverse Charter Schools Coalition: https://diversecharters.org/ [https://diversecharters.org/] | LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/company/diverse-charter-schools-coalition/] Reach out to Sonia to learn more about the Diverse Charter Schools Coalition's work supporting 106 networks and over 280 intentionally diverse public charter schools across 26 states and Washington, D.C. Connect with Mike: www.linkedin.com/in/mmsc [https://www.linkedin.com/in/mmsc/] Stronger Consulting: strongerconsulting.com [https://strongerconsulting.com/] Publish a Book That Matters:  booksthatmatter.org [http://booksthatmatter.org/] Start a Podcast That Matters:  podcastsmatter.com [https://podcastsmatter.com/] Go from Expert to Thought Leader: geniusdiscovery.org [http://geniusdiscovery.org/]  For more great podcasts like this one, visit https://podcaststhatmatter.org [https://podcaststhatmatter.org/] Stay strong.

Vision Is Not Enough: How a CEO and COO Scale a National Nonprofit Together - with Vincent Marigna and Alex Serna

Scaling a 48-year-old national nonprofit takes more than vision. It takes a CEO and COO who trust each other enough to move fast in ambiguity. In this episode of The Stronger Podcast, Mike Montoya sits down with Vincent Marigna and Alex Serna, the CEO and COO of Breakthrough Collaborative, a national organization that serves more than 11,000 middle school through college students each summer and exposes 1,100 college-aged future teachers to the rigors and joys of the classroom. Both men are first-generation college graduates. Vincent came to teaching through Teach for America after a tough first six months in the classroom that he survived by calling his grandmother on the way to school. Alex was on his way into the military with a 2.1 GPA when he found out he would be a father at 17. Higher education changed both of their lives, and now they are running the organization that does that work for tens of thousands of young people every year. The heart of the conversation is how they actually run it together. Vincent makes his thinking visible the way his first CEO once did for him, putting half-formed ideas on the table early so Alex can take them from there. Alex executes while the picture is still forming and tells Vince when something is broken before being asked. They have a high tolerance for ambiguity and enough trust built through consistent action that they can move at the speed the work requires. Tune in to hear how two leaders are scaling opportunity for the next generation of students by first investing in the partnership at the top. Chapters: 🎙️ 00:27 Want a podcast just like this one? Check out www.podcastsmatter.com [http://www.podcastsmatter.com] 🌱 01:11 Meet Vincent Marigna and Alex Serna of Breakthrough Collaborative 🎲 03:22 Alex went from a 2.1 GPA to seeing education as the thing that could change his life 🧭 05:32 Being open to possibility beats having a perfect plan 🤝 11:11 How a CEO and a COO actually share the load 📚 16:44 Find support for writing your impact-driven book at www.booksthatmatter.org [http://www.booksthatmatter.org] 🌫️ 17:52 Shape ambiguity at the speed the work requires 🧱 24:18 How Vincent builds trust: do what you say you will do, consistently ✨ 29:34 What kids see when the CEO walks into the room 🌟 32:57 Go from expert to thought leader at www.geniusdiscovery.org [http://www.geniusdiscovery.org] 🚀 34:06 Growth with intentionality and the year ahead 💡 39:29 Make your thinking visible: the rhythm of a strong partnership 🎧 44:00 Find more podcasts that matter at www.podcaststhatmatter.org [http://www.podcaststhatmatter.org] Links: Connect with Vincent Marigna: LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/vincent-marigna/] Connect with Alex Serna: LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexserna1/] Breakthrough Collaborative: https://breakthroughcollaborative.org/ [https://breakthroughcollaborative.org/] | LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/company/breakthrough-collaborative/] Reach out to Vincent and Alex to learn more about Breakthrough Collaborative's work scaling educational opportunity for middle school through college students and developing the next generation of teachers across its national affiliate network.  Connect with Mike: www.linkedin.com/in/mmsc [https://www.linkedin.com/in/mmsc/] Stronger Consulting: strongerconsulting.com [https://strongerconsulting.com/] Publish a Book That Matters:  booksthatmatter.org [http://booksthatmatter.org/] Start a Podcast That Matters:  podcastsmatter.com [https://podcastsmatter.com/] Go from Expert to Thought Leader: geniusdiscovery.org [http://geniusdiscovery.org/]  For more great podcasts like this one, visit https://podcaststhatmatter.org [https://podcaststhatmatter.org/] Stay strong.