030 ~ Ben Browner ~ Choosing Life: Awakening Through Music, Sacred Gathering & the Power of Being Seen

031 ~ Veronica Fernmoss ~ The Courage to Belong: Awakening Through World Travel, Touch & the Frequency of Love

What if the Universe told you to leave everything behind — your husband, your career, your house — and backpack the world? Veronica Fernmoss, embodied spiritual mentor and one of my very first spiritual guides, joins me to share a radical story of divine intervention that predated the book Eat, Pray, Love by 14 years. We explore the science of frequency, manifestation, the body as a portal to belonging, and what it truly means to stop fitting in and start being real.  --- ☀️ Join The WakeUp Protocol Newsletter This is where the podcast turns into practice. Every week, I share the specific tools, rituals, and inquiries mentioned in my episodes to help you stay sovereign and heart-led. Sign up here: www.thewakeupprotocol.com [http://www.thewakeupprotocol.com/] --- About Our Guest: Veronica Fernmoss Veronica Fernmoss is an embodied spiritual mentor specializing in mind-body-spirit integration and the creator of the Love Your Life program — a self-paced, by-donation awakening offering available at www.oneloveawakening.com [http://www.oneloveawakening.com]. In her twenties, while living a picture-perfect yet soul-dimming life in Washington D.C., Veronica received a clear download from the Universe to leave her husband, career, and home behind and backpack the world indefinitely. What followed was over a year of pilgrimage through Bali, Southeast Asia, Nepal, India, Egypt, and Kenya — a journey of spiritual awakening, Vipassana practice, and sacred connection. She has called the Pacific Northwest home ever since, living on an island in the Salish Sea. ---  In This Episode, We Explore ✨ The Divine Intervention: How an unmistakable message from the Universe cracked Veronica's conditioned life wide open — and why saying yes without hesitation became her greatest act of self-trust. ✨ Fitting In vs. Belonging: Why Brené Brown's insight — "fitting in is the opposite of belonging" — hit home for Veronica, and how leaving a life that looked right but felt wrong was the beginning of real belonging. ✨ The Frequency of Manifestation: Why manifestation is about who you're being — not what you want — and how holding love and above (David Hawkins' scale 500+) collapses the buffer between intention and reality. ✨ The Nervous System as Portal: The anemone analogy — what happens when we stay contracted for too long — and why breath, movement, and touch are essential technologies for returning to safety and expansion. ✨ Touch as Co-Regulation: Why consensual, non-sexual touch — from long embraces to contact improvisation — is one of the most profound tools we have for nervous system regulation and genuine human belonging. ✨ Embodied Unity Consciousness: Veronica's vision for the world we are becoming — a reality where we all know we belong, community is built on love rather than performance, and the frequency we hold ripples outward whether we know it or not. --- Connect with Veronica 🌿 Website: www.oneloveawakening.com [http://www.oneloveawakening.com/] 🌿 Free Program: Love Your Life — available by donation at her website --- Support The WakeUp Protocol 🌿 Share: Send this to one person who is yearning to leave a life that looks right but feels wrong. 🌿 Review: If Veronica's story of choosing belonging over fitting in moved you, please leave us a 5-star review on Apple Podcasts or YouTube. 🌿 Newsletter: www.thewakeupprotocol.com [http://www.thewakeupprotocol.com/] ---  💕 Thank you for listening! 💕

030 ~ Ben Browner ~ Choosing Life: Awakening Through Music, Sacred Gathering & the Power of Being Seen

What does it take to choose life when despair feels easier? Ben Browner, founder of Revival Gatherings and the West Coast's largest men's gathering, joins me to share a story that spans Missouri blues clubs and a prison cell to building sacred community containers that remind us what it means to be truly human. We explore what it means to trade a Messiah complex for deep listening — and what it looks like to let go of control and finally just be seen. --- ☀️ Join The WakeUp Protocol Newsletter This is where the podcast turns into practice. Every week, I share the specific tools, rituals, and inquiries mentioned in my episodes to help you stay sovereign and heart-led. Sign up here: www.thewakeupprotocol.com [http://www.thewakeupprotocol.com/] --- About Our Guest: Ben Browner Ben Browner is the founder and lead producer of Revival Gatherings — a growing ecosystem of sacred community events in the Pacific Northwest, including the Summer Revival, the Manifest Men's Gathering, and large-scale winter circle ceremonies. He is also the creator of the Revival Learning Cohort, training the next generation of conscious event producers. Ben's awakening was a long arc: from a painful childhood between his mother's alcoholism and his father's blues clubs, through a pivotal time in prison at 18, to dissolving a Messiah complex and learning to live as part of the mycelial web rather than above it. His work is rooted in emergence, living systems, and the radical act of being witnessed whole. --- In This Episode, We Explore 🧩 The Messiah Complex: How Ben's deep desire to save the world — born from watching his mother's decline — became a siloed, uninitiated mission that had to be dismantled. 🎭 Music as Portal: The Rachmaninoff concerto that cracked Ben open in a prison bunk and set the entire arc of his life in motion. 🧠 The Uninitiated Masculine: Why Manifest gatherings resist prescriptive transformation and instead create conditions for grief, rage, and radical joy to coexist. 🤖 Living Systems Leadership: What permaculture, soil science, and mycelial intelligence taught Ben about how to steward a movement without controlling it. 🧘 Gender Reconciliation: Ben's vision for titrating women's voices into men's sacred space — and why real listening is one of the most radical acts possible today. 🌍 The Permanent Eco Village: Ben's deepest dream: a pilgrimage venue where the ephemeral culture of Revival is finally grounded into something lasting. --- Connect with Ben 🌿 Website: www.revivalgatherings.com [http://www.revivalgatherings.com/] 🌿 Instagram: @revivalgatherings [http://www.instagram.com/revivalgatherings] 🌿 Men's Gathering: www.manifestgathering.com [http://www.manifestgathering.com] --- Support The WakeUp Protocol 🌿 Share: Send this to one person who needs a reminder that their pain points might actually be their greatest gifts. 🌿 Review: If Ben's story of choosing life moved you, please leave us a 5-star review on Apple Podcasts or YouTube. 🌿 Newsletter: www.thewakeupprotocol.com [http://www.thewakeupprotocol.com/] --- 💕 Thank you for listening! 💕

029 ~ Xanna Seto ~ From Shadows to Sanctuary: Awakening Through Resilience, Sacred Sound & Reclaiming the Soul

Can your darkest moments actually be the doorway back to your truest self? The multipassionate Xanna Seto joins me today to share a story of incredible resilience, moving from the deepest shadows of addiction and life on the streets to the radiant clarity of a deeply lived spiritual vocation. We explore what it means to finally stop being "attached to being right" so you can start being real. --- ☀️ Join The WakeUp Protocol Newsletter This is where the podcast turns into practice. Every week, I share the specific tools, rituals, and inquiries mentioned in my episodes to help you stay sovereign and heart-led. Sign up here: www.thewakeupprotocol.com [http://www.thewakeupprotocol.com/] --- About Our Guest: Xanna Seto Xanna Seto is the steward of Serpent Song Sanctuary, a five-acre sanctuary on an island in the Salish Sea. She is a student of ancient wisdom traditions, initiated into Sri Tantra and the Pako path of Haro. Xanna’s awakening was a homecoming. After years of navigating extreme shadows—including running away at 14 to join a motorcycle group and surviving a decade of hard drug addiction—she found her way back to the light through "divine intervention" and the study of ancient languages and sound. --- In This Episode, We Explore 🧩 The Prophecy of Extremes: Xanna’s early realization that she would have to experience life's depths before finding her center. 🎭 The Double-Edged Sword of Music: How sound can lead us into dark places or act as a powerful tool for recovery and truth. 🧠 Reclaiming Sensitivity: Why Xanna used drugs to "turn off" the hyper-empathy and spiritual gifts that were discouraged in her childhood. 🤖 Dialectical Behavioral Therapy (DBT): The "divine" timing of a research study based on Zen Buddhist principles that taught Xanna how to empower herself. 🧘 The Language of Vibration: Why Xanna learns Sanskrit and Quechua to transmit deeper spiritual meanings through medicine music. 🌍 The Spiral Path: Understanding that spiritual growth is a process of shedding skin like a snake to grow into the next version of yourself. --- Connect with Xanna 🌿 Website: www.serpentsongsanctuary.com [http://www.serpentsongsanctuary.com/] --- Support The WakeUp Protocol 🌿 Share: Send this to anyone who needs to be reminded that their light is never truly lost. 🌿 Review: Help us reach more curious souls by leaving a 5-star review on Apple Podcasts or YouTube. 🌿 Newsletter: www.thewakeupprotocol.com [http://www.thewakeupprotocol.com/] --- 💕 Thank you for listening! 💕

028 ~ Brett Hill ~ Beyond the Rational: Awakening Through Psychic Revelation, Somatic Wisdom & Inside-Out Living

Can you know things you "shouldn't" possibly know? In a riveting intersection of science and spirit, Brett Hill shares the story of a psychic hit so strong he chose to let his own store get robbed just to prove to his rational brain that the information was real. In this episode, we explore how to move from an "outside-in" life to an "inside-out" reality, where love and beauty become the literal physics of our daily existence. --- ☀️ Join The WakeUp Protocol Newsletter This is where the podcast turns into practice. Every week, I share the specific tools, rituals, and inquiries mentioned in my episodes to help you stay sovereign and heart-led. Sign up here: www.thewakeupprotocol.com [http://www.thewakeupprotocol.com] --- About Our Guest: Brett Hill Brett Hill is a lifelong explorer of the intersection between technology and consciousness. Balancing a high-tech career with deep spiritual practice—including founding The Quest Institute—he teaches that "being" is a state accessed through an intentional architecture of somatic techniques. For Brett, awakening isn't a single destination but a series of "quickenings" that shift how we process reality. He blends grounded methodology with an uncommon gift for empathic intuition—often experienced as psychic revelation—to create clear roadmaps for his clients’ personal and spiritual evolution. --- In This Episode, We Explore 🧩 The Physics of Intuition: Why psychic hits aren't "magic," but a science of the universe we don't fully understand yet.  🎭 Inside-Out Living: Shifting from a world that happens to you to a reality that manifests through you.  🧠 The Executive Brain: How to use the executive function of the mind to become an observer of your own triggers and reactions.  🤖 Spiritual Corporate Life: How to maintain presence and centeredness in a world that rewards aggression and over-assertion.  🧘 Somatic Touchstones: A practical 10-second technique for "re-tuning" your nervous system through beauty 5-6 times a day.  🌍 The Frequency of Love: Calibrating your life to higher octaves of connection, rapport, and peace. --- Connect with Brett 🌿 Website: themindfulcoach.com [https://www.google.com/search?q=http://themindfulcoach.com]  🌿 Newsletter: themindfulcoach.com/letters [https://www.google.com/search?q=http://themindfulcoach.com]  (Practical wisdom on how to be more "you" in the world)   🌿 Coaching: Inquire about Brett's coaching programs on his website --- Support The WakeUp Protocol 🌿 Share: Send this to one person who is balancing a high-pressure career with a deep spiritual calling.  🌿 Review: If Brett’s story of the "record store robbery" shifted your perspective, please leave us a 5-star review on Apple Podcasts or YouTube.  🌿 Newsletter: www.thewakeupprotocol.com [http://www.thewakeupprotocol.com] --- 💕 Thank you for listening! 💕

027 ~ Mónica Guzmán ~ Reclaiming Curiosity: Awakening Through Fearless Conversation & Shared Humanity

Can curiosity be a spiritual practice? In a time of deep political and digital division, Mónica Guzmán argues that the "root of all evil is distance between people". In this episode, we explore how to bridge that distance by dropping our masks, sitting with our discomfort, and reclaiming the "muscle" of curiosity. --- ☀️ Join The WakeUp Protocol Newsletter This is where the podcast turns into practice. Every week, I share the specific tools, rituals, and inquiries mentioned in my episodes to help you stay sovereign and heart-led. Sign up here: thewakeupprotocol.com [http://www.thewakeupprotocol.com] --- About Our Guest: Mónica Guzmán Mónica Guzmán is the author of I Never Thought of it That Way, the founder of Reclaim Curiosity, and a bridge-builder at Braver Angels. A Mexican immigrant and a liberal daughter of conservative parents, Mónica has dedicated her career to understanding how we can have "fearlessly curious conversations". For Mónica, awakening isn't just an intellectual shift; it’s a "slow dawning" of light. It involves looking inward to "know your own code" and learning to see others—even those we deeply disagree with—as bottomless mysteries rather than enemies to be "othered". --- In This Episode, We Explore 🧩 The SOS Framework: Understanding the natural human dynamics of Sorting, Othering, and Siloing that keep us divided. 🎭 The Mask vs. The Soul: Why we start wearing "masks" around age seven and how "taking the mask off" invites others into curiosity. 🧠 Curiosity as a Muscle: Moving past the idea that curiosity is a trait—it is a practice that requires courage. 🤖 Technology as a Wedge: How AI and social media drive distance and why AI is currently "incapable of courage". 🧘 Spiritual "Inward Curiosity": Mónica’s practice of visualizing negative emotions, like impatience, as children needing a hug. 🌍 The Global Commonality: What Mónica learned from the silence of Quaker meetings and the values of Buddhism in Thailand. --- Connect with Mónica 🌿  Website: moniguzman.com [https://www.moniguzman.com/] 🌿  Book: I Never Thought of it That Way: How to Have Fearlessly Curious Conversations in Dangerously Divided Times  🌿  Instagram: @moniguzman [https://www.instagram.com/moniguzman/] Buy it on: Bookshop.com [https://bookshop.org/p/books/i-never-thought-of-it-that-way-how-to-have-fearlessly-curious-conversations-in-dangerously-divided-times-m-nica-guzm-n/2ad1973e759d34aa?ean=9781637746028&next=t] / Amazon [https://www.amazon.com/Never-Thought-That-Way-Conversations/dp/B09QXW2S7N/ref=sr_1_1?crid=21A6R2NFWXJ5I&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.trdoGQf442dmmEx1dOO8vlfFvcGwuuWdkJGLUnFZG8Q.CaZR7f4oIGneRYyt393Fnob0vBBlrEOaCYqX8PMYS9A&dib_tag=se&keywords=I+Never+Thought+of+it+That+Way%3A+How+to+Have+Fearlessly+Curious+Conversations+in+Dangerously+Divided+Times&nsdOptOutParam=true&qid=1771394949&sprefix=i+never+thought+of+it+that+way+how+to+have+fearlessly+curious+conversations+in+dangerously+divided+times+%2Caps%2C191&sr=8-1]  🌿  Podcast: A Braver Way [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/a-braver-way/id1709364674]  --- Support The WakeUp Protocol 🌿  Share: Send this to one person who is struggling to talk to someone they love across the political divide. 🌿  Review: If Mónica’s perspective on "unsiloing" moved you, please leave us a 5-star review on Apple Podcasts or YouTube. 🌿  Newsletter: thewakeupprotocol.com [http://www.thewakeupprotocol.com/] --- 💕 Thank you for listening! 💕