ZEITGEIST19 Curated Podcast

Shweta Naik. The Living Field: Jane Goodall & The Intelligence of Love

About the Episode: We are honored to feature Shweta Naik guiding a meditation titled The Living Field, a heartfelt tribute to Dr. Jane Goodall. This meditation invites you to experience a deep sense of interconnectedness - with the oceans, wildlife and the delicate balance of life on Earth. Shweta Naik, environmental advocate, regenerative futurist, and Executive Director of the Jane Goodall Institute India, has worked closely with Dr. Goodall on initiatives such as Oceans Are Us and inspiring Roots & Shoots programs that empower young people to care for the planet. World-renowned for her groundbreaking research on chimpanzees and her lifelong commitment to conservation, Dr. Jane Goodall has also been a passionate voice for ocean health and the unity of all living beings. Through Shweta’s guidance, we invite you to connect with nature, embrace our shared responsibility for the Earth, and honor Dr. Goodall’s extraordinary legacy. The Speaker: Shweta Naik is an environmental advocate, regenerative futurist, Executive Director at the Jane Goodall Institute India and a member of UNESCO’s Ocean Literacy Group of Experts. She focuses on Dr. Goodall’s innovative Oceans Are Us and Roots & Shoots projects. She is instrumental in launching programs like Blue Schools, which aim to educate and empower communities about ocean conservation, biodiversity, and sustainable practices. Through her work and personal experience with Dr. Goodall, Shweta creates initiatives and experiences that connect people to nature, inspire mindful reflection, and honor the legacy of Dr. Jane Goodall. ''As Above, So Below'' is a collaborative podcast season between ZEITGEIST19 and One Ocean Foundation, focused on biodiversity and ocean conservation and planetary well-being. Follow Jane Goodall Institute India's journey on Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/janegoodallinstituteindia/] and LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/company/jane-goodall-institute-india] Follow Jane Goodall Institute's journey on Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/JaneGoodallinst/] Follow ZEITGEIST19's journey on Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/zeitgeist19] and LinkedIn [https://it.linkedin.com/company/zeitgeist19] Follow One Ocean Foundation's journey on Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/oneoceanfound/] https://www.instagram.com/dr.sylviaearle/and LinkedIn [https://it.linkedin.com/company/one-ocean-foundation/]

Refik Anadol. Dreaming In Data

About this episode: As AI and robotics advance at breakneck speed, are we on the verge of crisis — or the brink of a new kind of understanding? In an era of vanishing ecosystems, will machines help us feel what we’re losing — or simply record the moment it disappears? Could a neural network truly remember a forest, or dream of one burning? In this episode, Refik Anadol [https://refikanadol.com/] joins us for a rare, deeply personal conversation on the future of creativity, the ethics of artificial intelligence, and the role of the artist in an age defined by urgency, acceleration, and imagination. We speak about his concept of cognitive environments, how data has become a material for memory and meaning, and why he believes light is a divine medium. From creating large-scale immersive works like Glacier Dreams and Living Archive: Nature, to collaborating with the Yawanawá people of the Amazon, Anadol shares what it means to build honest, impact-driven practice in the age of climate crisis and machine learning. We explore why he refuses traditional art-world boundaries, what he learned from gathering over half a billion images of nature, and why he sees AI not as a threat, but as a mirror - one that reflects back the best or worst of humanity, depending on how we shape it. The conversation ends on a note of cautious optimism: for Anadol, this moment of technological transformation is nothing less than a new kind of renaissance a one that calls not only for innovation, but for responsibility, transparency, and a deeper commitment to healing, both planetary and personal. The Speaker: Refik Anadol (b. 1985, Istanbul, Turkey) is an internationally renowned media artist, director, and pioneer in the aesthetics of data and machine intelligence. He is the Director and co-founder of Refik Anadol Studio in Los Angeles and teaches at UCLA’s Department of Design Media Arts from which he obtained a Master of Fine Arts. Refik Anadol Studio brings together a globally diverse team of designers, architects, data scientists, and researchers—originating from 10 countries and fluent in 15 languages—who share a deep commitment to inclusion, equity, and cross-cultural collaboration at every stage of artistic production. Anadol is also the co-founder of Dataland, the world’s first Museum of AI Arts. ''As Above, So Below'' is a collaborative podcast season between ZEITGEIST19 and One Ocean Foundation, focused on biodiversity and ocean conservation and planetary well-being. Hosts: Farah Piriye & Elizabeth Zhivkova, ZEITGEIST19 [https://zeitgeist19.com/] Follow Refik Anadol's journey on Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/refikanadol/?hl=en] Follow ZEITGEIST19's journey on Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/zeitgeist19] and LinkedIn [https://it.linkedin.com/company/zeitgeist19] Follow One Ocean Foundation's journey on Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/oneoceanfound/] https://www.instagram.com/dr.sylviaearle/and LinkedIn [https://it.linkedin.com/company/one-ocean-foundation/]

Daniela Zyman. The Laughter of The Jellyfish: Ontological Currents

About this episode: What would a jellyfish teach us if we were willing to listen? In this episode we plunge into a poetic and philosophical conversation with Daniela Zyman, Artistic Director of TBA21–Academy and author of The Laughter of the Jellyfish, about the transformative power of counter-education, the ontological conflicts of our time, and the ways art can serve as a mediating force between knowledge, policy, and planetary urgency. A leading voice in contemporary curatorial practice, Zyman reflects on the role of culture in the face of ecological, political, and epistemic collapse. Our conversation explores how art can operate as a space for resistance and re-imagination—intervening in science, influencing policy, and challenging dominant narratives of knowledge production. We speak about her notion of counter-research and counter-knowledge, her collaborations with transdisciplinary artists and Indigenous communities, and her belief in the power of radical imagination. Guided by the metaphor of the jellyfish - fluid, ancient, and radically embodied—we explore how to unlearn the rigid binaries of modernity and float toward more entangled, relational ways of knowing. Drawing from the work of Bruno Latour, Nancy Fraser, Allan Sekula, Armin Linke, hydrofeminist ethics and decades of curatorial practice, Daniela shares her reflections on the shifting role of culture in a world facing ecological, spiritual, and cognitive fragmentation. How can cultural institutions help us navigate a time when even the future feels endangered? The Speaker: Daniela Zyman is a curator, writer, and the long-time Artistic Director of TBA21 (Thyssen-Bornemisza Art Contemporary), one of the world’s most pioneering foundations working at the intersection of contemporary art, environmental consciousness, and cultural diplomacy. With a background in philosophy, religious studies, and political science, Zyman has curated and co-developed transdisciplinary programs that bridge contemporary art, indigenous knowledge, oceanic research, and critical theory. She is the conceptual force behind many of TBA21–Academy’s landmark initiatives, including The Current, a fellowship program for artists and researchers aboard expeditionary vessels and coastal residencies. Zyman’s work is rooted in counter-hegemonic pedagogy, posthuman ethics, and the cultivation of what she calls “curatorial listening”—a form of sensing-with the world, not from above it. She has collaborated with artists such as Amar Kanwar, Joan Jonas and many others. ''As Above, So Below'' is a collaborative podcast season between ZEITGEIST19 and One Ocean Foundation, focused on biodiversity and ocean conservation and planetary well-being. Hosts: Farah Piriye & Elizabeth Zhivkova, ZEITGEIST19 [https://zeitgeist19.com/] Follow ZEITGEIST19's journey on Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/zeitgeist19] and LinkedIn [https://it.linkedin.com/company/zeitgeist19] Follow One Ocean Foundation's journey on Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/oneoceanfound/] https://www.instagram.com/dr.sylviaearle/and LinkedIn [https://it.linkedin.com/company/one-ocean-foundation/]

Christian Clauwers. Frozen Frontiers: Documenting a Changing Planet

About this episode: In this episode we’re traveling far beyond the edges of the familiar. Past the shorelines, beyond the deep blues, and into the stark white silence of the polar frontiers. Our guest Christian Clauwers doesn’t just witness the Earth’s most fragile places — he tells their stories through stillness, exploring the fragile ecosystems. The Speaker: Christian Clauwers is a Belgian photographer, explorer and environmental storyteller. His work has taken him aboard scientific vessels to the Arctic, the Antarctic, and across the world’s oceans. His lens captures what words often fail to express — the raw power, beauty, and vulnerability of our planet’s last wild places. As an adventurer, Clauwers has traveled to the polar extremes of our planet—from 81° North to 78° South—and has explored over 114 countries across all seven continents. He has sailed all five oceans, reaching some of the world's most remote and uncharted islands. ''As Above, So Below'' is a collaborative podcast season between ZEITGEIST19 and One Ocean Foundation, focused on biodiversity and ocean conservation and planetary well-being. Hosts: Farah Piriye & Elizabeth Zhivkova, ZEITGEIST19 [https://zeitgeist19.com/] Follow Christian Clauwers's journey at his website [https://www.clauwers.com/] and Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/christian.clauwers/] Follow ZEITGEIST19's journey on Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/zeitgeist19] and LinkedIn [https://it.linkedin.com/company/zeitgeist19] Follow One Ocean Foundation's journey on Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/oneoceanfound/] https://www.instagram.com/dr.sylviaearle/and LinkedIn [https://it.linkedin.com/company/one-ocean-foundation/]

Antoine Bertin. Listening Beneath the Surface

About this episode: On the occasion of the opening of the 3rd United Nations Ocean Conference, kicking it off with multidisciplinary artist Antoine Bertin's creative presentation and listening session Hearing Above From Below curated by us, we are thrilled to release a conversation with this leading voice in contemporary sound art whose immersive installations merge science, field recording, and storytelling. From Tate Britain to NTS Radio, Bertin’s work invites us to rethink our sensory relationship with nature—particularly the sonic landscapes we rarely hear, like the depths of the ocean. We explore how his background in sound engineering and education at the London College of Communication shaped his artistic process. He takes us inside his creative journey—from collecting raw data and underwater field recordings to transforming them into contemplative soundscapes that resonate with themes of environmental change and human perception. In the context of the UN Ocean Decade, Antoine also reflects on cross-sectoral collaboration for ocean sustainability, including his recent participation in the exhibition Becoming Ocean: a social conversation about the Ocean [https://villa-arson.fr/en/programmation/expositions/becoming-ocean/] at Villa Arson presented by TBA21 Thyssen-Bornemisza Art Contemporary and Tara Ocean Foundation, part of the program for the Nice Biennial of Arts and the Ocean during the UN Ocean Conference in Nice. As well, part of the Sentiment Océanique exhibition at Nice's Fort du Mont Alban. This is a must-listen for anyone interested in eco-acoustics, immersive sound art, climate storytelling, and the evolving role of artists in the Anthropocene. *We are delighted to announce Antoine Bertin is going to be one of the artists in residency of As Above, So Below. The Speaker: Antoine Bertin is an European artist working at the intersection of science and sensory immersion, field recording and sound storytelling, data and music composition. His creations take the form of listening experiences, immersive moments and audio meditations exploring our relationships with the living world. His work has been presented at Tate Britain, Palais de Tokyo, Serpentine Gallery, and others. He produces a quarterly show called “Edge of the Forest” on NTS radio weaving together field recordings, data sonifications and science inspired meditations. ''As Above, So Below'' is a collaborative podcast season between ZEITGEIST19 and One Ocean Foundation, focused on biodiversity and ocean conservation and planetary well-being. Hosts: Farah Piriye & Elizabeth Zhivkova, ZEITGEIST19 [https://zeitgeist19.com/] Follow Antoine Bertin's journey on Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/ant1bert1/?hl=it] Follow ZEITGEIST19's journey on Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/zeitgeist19] and LinkedIn [https://it.linkedin.com/company/zeitgeist19] Follow One Ocean Foundation's journey on Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/oneoceanfound/] https://www.instagram.com/dr.sylviaearle/and LinkedIn [https://it.linkedin.com/company/one-ocean-foundation/]