All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg

(0:00) Bestie intros! (1:25) The AI Doomer Ecosystem: goals, astroturfing, Biden connections, effective altruist rebrand, global AI regulation (25:17) Doom vs Boom in AI: Job Destruction or Abundance? (52:44) Big, Beautiful Bill cleanup and upside: DOGE angle, CBO issues (1:17:14) US Steel/Nippon Steel deal: national champions and golden votes Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath [https://x.com/chamath] https://x.com/Jason [https://x.com/Jason] https://x.com/DavidSacks [https://x.com/DavidSacks] https://x.com/friedberg [https://x.com/friedberg] Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod [https://x.com/theallinpod] Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod [https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod] Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod [https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod] Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod [https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod] Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl [https://rb.gy/tppkzl] https://x.com/yung_spielburg [https://x.com/yung_spielburg] Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect [https://x.com/TheZachEffect] Referenced in the show: https://nypost.com/2025/05/28/business/ai-could-cause-bloodbath-for-white-collar-jobs-spike-unemployment-to-20-anthropic-ceo [https://nypost.com/2025/05/28/business/ai-could-cause-bloodbath-for-white-collar-jobs-spike-unemployment-to-20-anthropic-ceo] https://polymarket.com/event/us-enacts-ai-safety-bill-in-2025 [https://polymarket.com/event/us-enacts-ai-safety-bill-in-2025] https://www.aipanic.news/p/the-ai-existential-risk-industrial [https://www.aipanic.news/p/the-ai-existential-risk-industrial] https://www.semafor.com/article/05/30/2025/anthropic-emerges-as-an-adversary-to-trumps-big-bill [https://www.semafor.com/article/05/30/2025/anthropic-emerges-as-an-adversary-to-trumps-big-bill] https://x.com/nypost/status/1760623631283954027 [https://x.com/nypost/status/1760623631283954027] https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/02/23/google-gemini-ai-images-wrong-woke [https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/02/23/google-gemini-ai-images-wrong-woke] https://www.thefp.com/p/ex-google-employees-woke-gemini-culture-broken [https://www.thefp.com/p/ex-google-employees-woke-gemini-culture-broken] https://www.campusreform.org/article/biden-admins-new-ai-executive-order-prioritizes-dei/24312 [https://www.campusreform.org/article/biden-admins-new-ai-executive-order-prioritizes-dei/24312] https://x.com/chamath/status/1927847516500009363 [https://x.com/chamath/status/1927847516500009363] https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/13/microsoft-is-cutting-3percent-of-workers-across-the-software-company.html [https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/13/microsoft-is-cutting-3percent-of-workers-across-the-software-company.html] https://x.com/DavidSacks/status/1927796514337746989 [https://x.com/DavidSacks/status/1927796514337746989] https://x.com/StephenM/status/1926715409807397204 [https://x.com/StephenM/status/1926715409807397204] https://x.com/neilksethi/status/1926981646718206243 [https://x.com/neilksethi/status/1926981646718206243] https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/5320248-the-bond-market-is-missing-the-real-big-beautiful-story [https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/5320248-the-bond-market-is-missing-the-real-big-beautiful-story] https://x.com/chamath/status/1928536987558105122 [https://x.com/chamath/status/1928536987558105122] https://x.com/chamath/status/1927373268828266795 [https://x.com/chamath/status/1927373268828266795] https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/FYFRGDA188S [https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/FYFRGDA188S] https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/FYONGDA188S [https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/FYONGDA188S] https://www.cnbc.com/2025/01/03/biden-blocks-us-steel-takeover-by-japans-nippon-steel-citing-national-security.html [https://www.cnbc.com/2025/01/03/biden-blocks-us-steel-takeover-by-japans-nippon-steel-citing-national-security.html] https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114558783827880495 [https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114558783827880495]

(0:00) The Besties welcome Nico Rosberg! (0:27) Nico's history with F1, what makes a great driver (6:24) The business of F1 (10:05) Teammate rivalries, why "Drive to Survive" works, future growth (16:48) Post-F1 career, best angel investments, becoming a VC (22:16) Partner shoutouts: Thanks to OKX, Circle, Polymarket, Solana, BVNK, and Google Cloud! Check out OKX: https://www.okx.com [https://www.okx.com] Check out Circle: https://www.circle.com [https://www.circle.com] Follow Nico: https://x.com/nicorosberg [https://x.com/nicorosberg] Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath [https://x.com/chamath] https://x.com/Jason [https://x.com/Jason] https://x.com/DavidSacks [https://x.com/DavidSacks] https://x.com/friedberg [https://x.com/friedberg] Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod [https://x.com/theallinpod] Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod [https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod] Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod [https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod] Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod [https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod] Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl [https://rb.gy/tppkzl] https://x.com/yung_spielburg [https://x.com/yung_spielburg] Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect [https://x.com/TheZachEffect]

(0:00) Friedberg and Chamath welcome Senator Ron Johnson (2:30) The Reconciliation Bill process, how much the Big, Beautiful Bill will add to the national debt (14:33) Problems with growing our way out of debt, why elected officials are avoiding the fiscal reality (24:53) Energy rescissions, future of DOGE (32:09) How Senator Johnson will force a real review of the Big, Beautiful Bill; future of MAGA and the Conservative movement (54:15) Next steps if the Big, Beautiful Bill passes (58:35) Post-interview recap Follow Senator Johnson: https://x.com/RonJohnsonWI [https://x.com/RonJohnsonWI] Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath [https://x.com/chamath] https://x.com/Jason [https://x.com/Jason] https://x.com/DavidSacks [https://x.com/DavidSacks] https://x.com/friedberg [https://x.com/friedberg] Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod [https://x.com/theallinpod] Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod [https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod] Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod [https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod] Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod [https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod] Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl [https://rb.gy/tppkzl] https://x.com/yung_spielburg [https://x.com/yung_spielburg] Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect [https://x.com/TheZachEffect]

(0:00) Today's topics and bestie intros! (2:49) Bond market chaos, GOP abandons DOGE, Trump's big, beautiful bill passes the House (38:15) Google's big week: AI in search, roadmap to diversifying revenue (46:49) OpenAI acquires Jony Ive's design startup for $6.5B (57:09) AI Diplomacy: Sacks breaks down his trip to the Middle East and the datacenter deals (1:15:25) Science Corner: CRISPR breakthrough! (1:23:02) How increased energy production could solve America's fiscal problems Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath [https://x.com/chamath] https://x.com/Jason [https://x.com/Jason] https://x.com/DavidSacks [https://x.com/DavidSacks] https://x.com/friedberg [https://x.com/friedberg] Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod [https://x.com/theallinpod] Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod [https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod] Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod [https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod] Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod [https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod] Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl [https://rb.gy/tppkzl] https://x.com/yung_spielburg [https://x.com/yung_spielburg] Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect [https://x.com/TheZachEffect] Referenced in the show: https://www.barrons.com/articles/20-year-treasury-bond-auction-bba9d889 [https://www.barrons.com/articles/20-year-treasury-bond-auction-bba9d889] https://www.cnbc.com/quotes/US10Y [https://www.cnbc.com/quotes/US10Y] https://x.com/KobeissiLetter/status/1925253934794342405 [https://x.com/KobeissiLetter/status/1925253934794342405] https://www.google.com/finance/quote/.INX:INDEXSP?comparison=INDEXDJX%3A.DJI%2CINDEXNASDAQ%3A.IXIC&window=5D [https://www.google.com/finance/quote/.INX:INDEXSP?comparison=INDEXDJX%3A.DJI%2CINDEXNASDAQ%3A.IXIC&window=5D] https://www.pgpf.org/article/moodys-downgraded-its-us-credit-rating-and-warns-that-recent-policy-decisions-will-worsen-fiscal-outlook/ [https://www.pgpf.org/article/moodys-downgraded-its-us-credit-rating-and-warns-that-recent-policy-decisions-will-worsen-fiscal-outlook/] https://x.com/JessicaBRiedl/status/1925257429408756087 [https://x.com/JessicaBRiedl/status/1925257429408756087] https://www.google.com/finance/quote/BTC-USD [https://www.google.com/finance/quote/BTC-USD] https://www.google.com/finance/quote/GCW00:COMEX [https://www.google.com/finance/quote/GCW00:COMEX] https://polymarket.com/event/how-many-fed-rate-cuts-in-2025?tid=1747933765493 [https://polymarket.com/event/how-many-fed-rate-cuts-in-2025?tid=1747933765493] https://x.com/chamath/status/1925568992959492156 [https://x.com/chamath/status/1925568992959492156] https://x.com/chamath/status/1925590496103342114 [https://x.com/chamath/status/1925590496103342114] https://www.google.com/finance/quote/GOOG:NASDAQ [https://www.google.com/finance/quote/GOOG:NASDAQ] https://blog.google/products/google-one/google-ai-ultra [https://blog.google/products/google-one/google-ai-ultra] https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/what-sam-altman-told-openai-about-the-secret-device-hes-making-with-jony-ive-f1384005 [https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/what-sam-altman-told-openai-about-the-secret-device-hes-making-with-jony-ive-f1384005] https://x.com/BenGeskin/status/1925579528933372198 [https://x.com/BenGeskin/status/1925579528933372198] https://x.com/DavidSacks/status/1924817118370951238 [https://x.com/DavidSacks/status/1924817118370951238] https://mcigroup.my/top-news/malaysia-launches-regions-first-sovereign-full-stack-ai-infrastructure [https://mcigroup.my/top-news/malaysia-launches-regions-first-sovereign-full-stack-ai-infrastructure]

(0:00) The Besties welcome Antonio Gracias! (0:30) DOGE updates: Government complexity worse than imagined, how to fix it (9:00) Talent acquisition: How Elon attracted 10x engineers for DOGE, a better model for civil service (15:54) Voter fraud findings: illegal immigrants voting in elections, building a zero-defect voting system (22:12) Fixing immigration in the US Thanks to our partners for helping make this happen! Check out OKX: https://www.okx.com [https://www.okx.com] Check out Circle: https://www.circle.com [https://www.circle.com] Follow Antonio: https://x.com/AntonioGracias [https://x.com/AntonioGracias] Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath [https://x.com/chamath] https://x.com/Jason [https://x.com/Jason] https://x.com/DavidSacks [https://x.com/DavidSacks] https://x.com/friedberg [https://x.com/friedberg] Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod [https://x.com/theallinpod] Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod [https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod] Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod [https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod] Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod [https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod] Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl [https://rb.gy/tppkzl] https://x.com/yung_spielburg [https://x.com/yung_spielburg] Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect [https://x.com/TheZachEffect]