ETCH with Chuck Peters

49. The Leadership Library with Jeremy Echols

Want to grow as a leader? Pick up a book! In a world filled with quick clips and shallow content, the leaders who rise are the ones who learn deeply — page by page. In this rich and energizing episode, Chuck Peters and Jeremy Echols unpack the transformative power of reading for leadership development. They explore the timeless wisdom found in classic leadership books, share their personal reading rhythms, and highlight why deep, intentional learning will always outperform short-form consumption when it comes to shaping effective, grounded leaders. Whether you're new to leadership or building a long-term ministry career, this episode will equip you with perspectives and resources to grow your influence, lead healthier teams, and cultivate personal and spiritual maturity. SHOW LINKS:  The 21 Irrefutable Laws of Leadership  [https://www.amazon.com/dp/1400236169/?bestFormat=true&k=21%20irrefutable&ref_=nb_sb_ss_w_scx-ent-bk-ww_k2_1_6_de&crid=KY8W8HPLOZRP&sprefix=21%20irr] The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People [https://www.amazon.com/Habits-Highly-Effective-People-Powerful/dp/1982137274/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1SWH1CN48MJQ4&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.SqwOwJ5zN4dTSawslkpGL3HNdNsaU4DRSacbUhSuOe_NzbDKx0rZvRVBdNveH__aWl6hPF5XPPTP4Gq8vWC4O5vcEHVe7eGQEIMC5JgsWj8XULxFNtZ26C8j7ZG4xKOsjwWoNWeNl9mT1j9gmEPbljzhS-cOev6escZ387crhywuW-hg5BIWS4a7C1q4oTSJJ_3_zjVMFK5jT_tBkWnIA8ItSdo_ym3kzp2ZzdoIqOs.JlRhMkHPDBxgUHoWmiA-vVjs8ZLSTgY8brIJ6_Oiq_A&dib_tag=se&keywords=seven+habits+of+highly+effective+people&qid=1765315963&s=books&sprefix=the+seven+habits+of+highly+%2Cstripbooks%2C103&sr=1-1] Spiritual Leadership  [https://www.amazon.com/Spiritual-Leadership-Principles-Excellence-Believer/dp/0802416705/ref=sr_1_1?crid=39F58J6OWEOK0&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.65FFDCZpJ3DZrvBDlog0_cgQg0GzrTLTr1ujGM37wlwrkB0nC0OtUwZCXcUtJSk81a6LXplesIAxnlf9FEEiCfhh5P-mO5gVYPgOJfnJvTj22K3qTa_I4ovIPc_vSTlhPja8MpU6QOFcFebFBnknI1Qe07g1lZ2ZErAALn5M6kIN-lHeSTXkcGIclroThV8gOgyNC9ZVU39MXCN0MaxnEp2KZeC97KHQXyZYIx4RSzY.jgxO7zpwlnDtplHUVOKYIqW95TTrAQIefgNuy49Buqw&dib_tag=se&keywords=spiritual+Leadership&qid=1765316097&s=books&sprefix=spiritual+leadership%2Cstripbooks%2C106&sr=1-1] Good to Great [https://www.amazon.com/CD-Good-Great-Collins-James/dp/B00A2OCQYC/ref=sr_1_2?crid=16YHC5MK9FKI1&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.GxUtz4DTqe_QfTUSn8EV787tQyoO9BnSzYIt5XunuN3VlHifMpLuwhaH-gYsp0ATL0VuRQRFJrUQw1513RpIfOFsJ_KBneNl6aVM74RxpolR5_dWwC1CVELWNVnBSVJhGoEZ__GvhejSVqOUkAnS7FtkXxAisj5Gz14CZIn5lktomm6XBhIAbOJxN2zJt6mb1yrwzV30ZaDT8EzHl7XG_42d5Ao-KW0M8zdCC56kpyA.EfhHZN4xxZlTezSPmpTOsxA-WoX_EJ5dE9aHbXJ0IAE&dib_tag=se&keywords=Good+to+Great&qid=1765316219&s=books&sprefix=good+to+grea%2Cstripbooks%2C125&sr=1-2] The Four Obsessions of an Extordinary Executive  [https://www.amazon.com/Four-Obsessions-Extraordinary-Executive-Leadership/dp/B00HS8E3I2/ref=sr_1_2?crid=2IS7HKBO47PBY&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.YQS_Q1Zu-OMIrpHuawPoh2bByhbSNZyQgSR_Sci_MgH4tN_0RMrLEzJ6IW7H_oigDvjbr0gHlBdWTTc5raShjsAd-YeswoCMxRWY3tRdW_4.k9IQKtFomRuSHnmKI5Dzglpman4J4cooS-t8xpBkvRE&dib_tag=se&keywords=four+obsessions+of+an+extraordinary+executive+by+patrick+lencioni&nsdOptOutParam=true&qid=1765316462&sprefix=four+obsessions+of+an+extraordinary+executive+by+patrick+lencioni%2Caps%2C109&sr=8-2] The 6 Types of Working Genius [https://www.amazon.com/dp/1637743297/?bestFormat=true&k=the%20working%20genius&ref_=nb_sb_ss_w_scx-ent-bk-ww_k1_1_15_de&crid=3QZLFAWZBZ2VD&sprefix=The%20Working%20Gen] The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry [https://www.amazon.com/dp/0525653090/?bestFormat=true&k=the%20ruthless%20elimination%20of%20hurry&ref_=nb_sb_ss_w_scx-ent-bk-ww_k0_1_12_de&crid=3IIYJZ8N1F5EP&sprefix=the%20ruthless] https://www.amazon.com/Sense-Urgency- Connect with Lifeway Next Gen Ministry  [https://kidsministry.lifeway.com/2024/03/07/next-gen-ministry/]

48. Discipling the Next Generation in a Digital Age: Courage, Boundaries, and Countercultural Leadership with Jesse and Sarah Siegand

Screens are everywhere, but sacred spaces are disappearing. In a world where digital noise dominates our attention, how do we help the next generation hear the voice of God? In this powerful episode Jesse and Sarah Siegand dive deep into the challenges and strategies of discipling students in a digital world. The speakers unpack what it looks like to guide kids and teens toward meaningful faith formation in an age of endless scrolling, where attention is the new currency and discipleship must be both intentional and countercultural. This episode isn’t about hating technology,  it’s about redeeming it. From the role of parents in digital discipleship to the spiritual practice of fasting and modeling healthy habits, this conversation offers a practical roadmap for leaders who want to raise resilient, grounded disciples in a screen-saturated generation. SHOW LINKS:  Parents Who Fight  [https://www.parentswhofight.com/] Connect with Lifeway Next Gen Ministry  [https://kidsministry.lifeway.com/2024/03/07/next-gen-ministry/]

47. Loving Your Community Well: Ministry, Schools, and Student Engagement with Justin Holcomb

What happens when ministry leaders see their schools, neighborhoods, and everyday rhythms not as obstacles — but as mission fields? In this live episode recorded at the ETCH Next Gen Ministry Conference [https://etchconference.lifeway.com/], Justin Holcomb shares powerful, practical wisdom on what it really means to love your community and connect with students in meaningful ways. From engaging with schools to supporting families, this conversation cuts through the noise and brings leaders back to the heart of relational ministry: showing up, staying consistent, and loving people well. Thanks so much for listening to this episode of ETCH Next Gen Ministry Podcast. We’d love for you to join us at ETCH Conference 2026 [https://etchconference.lifeway.com/] — make plans now to be part of this incredible gathering of Next Gen leaders. And if today’s episode encouraged or equipped you, leave us a rating and review. It helps more ministry leaders find the show and grow with us. SHOW LINKS: Connect with Lifeway Next Gen Ministry [https://kidsministry.lifeway.com/2024/03/07/next-gen-ministry/] Connect with Lifeway Next Gen Ministry  [https://kidsministry.lifeway.com/2024/03/07/next-gen-ministry/]

46. How Great Leaders Grow: Jeff Wallace on Vision, Integrity, and Developing Others

What separates leaders who maintain ministries from those who multiply them?  In this episode, Jeff Wallace joins Chuck Peters for an honest and insightful conversation on the habits that define effective leadership. From leading with vision to choosing growth over comfort, Jeff unpacks the disciplines that develop both your character and your capacity. Whether you’re leading a team, a ministry, or the next generation itself — this conversation will challenge you to think bigger, lead deeper, and invest in people who will outlast your platform. Share this episode with your ministry team or leadership pipeline. Use it as a guide to evaluate your habits, grow your influence, and build leaders who multiply the mission of the Gospel. SHOW LINKS: Connect with Lifeway Next Gen Ministry  [https://kidsministry.lifeway.com/2024/03/07/next-gen-ministry/]

45. Serving That Transforms: Building a Healthy Volunteer Culture in Kids and Family Ministry with Steve Hample

What if the most spiritually transformative thing happening in your church isn’t on stage, but in a classroom, holding a goldfish cracker? In this episode, Chuck Peters and Steve Hample unpack the real impact of volunteering in children’s and family ministry — not just for kids, but for the adults who serve them. From personal growth and discipleship to leadership development and prayerful investment in future leaders, this conversation will inspire every Next Gen leader to see volunteering as more than a task… it’s a calling that changes lives. Encourage your team to listen together, reflect on how serving is shaping their faith, and start praying for the next generation of leaders God is already calling to your ministry. SHOW LINKS: Hyfi  [https://myhyfi.com/] The Gospel Project [https://gospelproject.lifeway.com/] Bible Studies for Life [https://biblestudiesforlife.lifeway.com/] Explore the Bible [https://explorethebible.lifeway.com/] Sign up for ETCH Conference 2026! [https://etchconference.lifeway.com/] Connect with Lifeway Next Gen Ministry  [https://kidsministry.lifeway.com/2024/03/07/next-gen-ministry/]