Out and Back

#37 Molly Seidel - Marathons to Trails, Western States 100 miler, How to keep running fun

Olympic marathon medalist turned trail runner, Molly Seidel, talks about her path from the roads to the trails. From the pavement to trail races to the high-altitude training that supports her quest for Western States, she shares behind-the-scenes insights you won’t hear anywhere else. Perfect for marathoners curious about trail running, road runners exploring ultra distances, or endurance athletes seeking fresh perspective—this episode opens a window into the future of multi-disciplinary excellence. MERCH: https://outandback.shop/ SPONSORS: Meteo Pace App [https://www.meteopace.com/redeem] Code: OUTANDBACK for 20% off Cure Hydration [https://www.curehydration.com/pages/starter-kit-lp?replo-experiment=test-3&replo-variation=SKLP&replo-experiment-id=9d17d60c-0e33-46bd-b7af-61b99016d74f] ZBiotics Code: [zbiotics.com/OUTANDBACK] OUTANDBACK for 15% off

#36 - How to taper for a Marathon and How to Recover After | Shakeout Podcast with John Gay

How to taper for a marathon, How to recover after a marathon & much more, on The Shakeout Podcast with John Gay ahead of his marathon debut. Kava Haven: All the Buzz, None of the Booze — get 15% off your first order at http://kavahaven.com/outandback [http://kavahaven.com/outandback] Code: OUTANDBACK15 Check out the Meteo Pace App to be prepared for your next race Join our newsletter [https://forms.gle/53TEaVFZjVJusoJp6] ⁠Join our Strava group⁠ [https://www.strava.com/clubs/1749368] Follow us: Jacob’s YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/@jacobthomson4360] ⁠Rory’s YouTube⁠ [https://www.youtube.com/@LinkletterRory]  [https://www.thomsontraining.run/%E2%81%A0] Out And Back YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/@OutandBackPodcast] ⁠Rory’s Strava⁠ [https://www.strava.com/pros/9351341] ⁠Jacob’s Strava⁠ [https://www.strava.com/pros/18784987] ⁠Rory’s Instagram⁠ [https://www.instagram.com/rory_linkletter/] ⁠Jacob’s Instagram⁠ [https://www.instagram.com/jtcougars8/] Jacob’s Coaching Website [https://www.thomsontraining.run/] SandyBoy Productions [https://sandyboyproductions.com/]

#35 Between Reps - London Marathon, 2:05 in Ohio, Has the marathon changed forever? Listener Questions!

We try to make sense of the London Marathon, compare it to the Boston Marathon, Talk about the crazy 2:05 in Toledo Ohio and then follow up with some listener questions. Enjoy! Join our newsletter [https://forms.gle/53TEaVFZjVJusoJp6] ⁠Join our Strava group⁠ [https://www.strava.com/clubs/1749368] Follow us: Jacob’s YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/@jacobthomson4360] ⁠Rory’s YouTube⁠ [https://www.youtube.com/@LinkletterRory]  [https://www.thomsontraining.run/%E2%81%A0] Out And Back YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/@OutandBackPodcast] ⁠Rory’s Strava⁠ [https://www.strava.com/pros/9351341] ⁠Jacob’s Strava⁠ [https://www.strava.com/pros/18784987] ⁠Rory’s Instagram⁠ [https://www.instagram.com/rory_linkletter/] ⁠Jacob’s Instagram⁠ [https://www.instagram.com/jtcougars8/] Jacob’s Coaching Website [https://www.thomsontraining.run/] SandyBoy Productions [https://sandyboyproductions.com/] Meteo Pace App [https://www.meteopace.com/] Cure Hydration [https://www.curehydration.com/pages/starter-kit-lp?replo-experiment=test-3&replo-variation=SKLP&replo-experiment-id=9d17d60c-0e33-46bd-b7af-61b99016d74f]

#34 Between Reps - Boston Marathon Reflection after running 2:06 and 2:09, What a weekend!

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#33 Ben Rosario - Running Industry Insider, Professional Coach and Founder of NAZ Elite, Race Director, Running Store Owner

We sat down with Ben Rosario to chat about his life in the running world. From owning running stores, founding a professional running team NAZ elite, driving sponsorship into the team with Hoka, owning and running The Marathon Project, his best coaching memories and more. Ben shares his thoughts and opinions on how to make the sport continue to grow and tells us what his blowing his mind about the current current boom. ⁠Meteo Pace App⁠ [https://www.meteopace.com/] ⁠Cure Hydration⁠ [https://www.curehydration.com/pages/starter-kit-lp?replo-experiment=test-3&replo-variation=SKLP&replo-experiment-id=9d17d60c-0e33-46bd-b7af-61b99016d74f] ⁠ZBiotics⁠ [https://zbiotics.com/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=ppc&utm_campaign=22880204630&utm_content=186715482474&utm_term=zbiotics&gadid=768637718123&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=22880204630&gbraid=0AAAAADDaTmi2s3SdujrQMvjbdNkosOJhw&gclid=Cj0KCQjwkYLPBhC3ARIsAIyHi3Rk4H9OCEbBaVGq5p791XdUbaNubtjJdc-2-gtf6bkBiDWhTZQy31AaAuxrEALw_wcB] Join our newsletter [https://forms.gle/53TEaVFZjVJusoJp6] ⁠Join our Strava group⁠ [https://www.strava.com/clubs/1749368] Follow us: Jacob’s YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/@jacobthomson4360] ⁠Rory’s YouTube⁠ [https://www.youtube.com/@LinkletterRory]  [https://www.thomsontraining.run/%E2%81%A0] Out And Back YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/@OutandBackPodcast] ⁠Rory’s Strava⁠ [https://www.strava.com/pros/9351341] ⁠Jacob’s Strava⁠ [https://www.strava.com/pros/18784987] ⁠Rory’s Instagram⁠ [https://www.instagram.com/rory_linkletter/] ⁠Jacob’s Instagram⁠ [https://www.instagram.com/jtcougars8/] Jacob’s Coaching Website [https://www.thomsontraining.run/%E2%81%A0] SandyBoy Productions [https://sandyboyproductions.com/] Check out our former sponor ⁠The Marathon Project⁠ [https://www.themarathonproject.com/] if you want to run fast in December of 2026. Use Code "outandback" for an additional $25 off your registration. Prices go up on May 1st! Chapters * 00:00 The Evolution of Running * 14:13 The Marathon Project * 25:56 Career Paths in Running * 34:24 The Evolution of Running Booms