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The Food Is Health Revolution

Podcast af Carter Williams, Ellen Brown, and guests talk through the biggest issues in integrating the food and health systems for the benefit of all.

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The US spends $2.6T on food and $4T on treating the chronic disease of which 85% is diet related. Food is the most powerful drug we have. We're here to prove it's also the best investment. We are accelerating the shift from cheap calories to affordable nutrition - connecting food, agriculture, and healthcare to end the chronic disease crisis... Your hosts Carter Williams (CEO iSelect Fund),) and Ellen Brown (Founder Healthcare Actually) combine decades of relevant and innovative cross-sector experience to cultivate conversation that will drive not just solutions but disruption. We're building the business case for System C - where healthy food is the most profitable food, and prevention beats the cost of disease. foodishealth.substack.com

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episode Live with Rip Esselstyn - Putting Everything on the Line to Build Real Food cover

Live with Rip Esselstyn - Putting Everything on the Line to Build Real Food

Thank you Chandermanik Thapar [https://substack.com/profile/205056242-chandermanik-thapar], Online Learning Collaborative [https://substack.com/profile/351613227-online-learning-collaborative], and many others for tuning in! Rip Esselstyn - former pro triathlete, Austin firefighter, the guy who got a station full of Texas meat-eaters to go plant strong and turned it into the Engine 2 Diet, a NYT bestseller, and a CPG brand that’s been on Whole Foods shelves since 2011. (And yes, I fangirled. I bought his Seven-Day Rescue book three years ago when my mom almost died and we found out she had type 2 diabetes. So this one was personal.) We started where every System C conversation has to start: trust. Rip walked through the 10-second label test anyone can run - check the fat (no palm, palm kernel, hydrogenated, or the animal stuff), check the sodium (Americans are getting pickled - half of us blow past the 1,200–1,500mg daily target), and check the added sugar (more than 4 grams per serving and he says run for the hills - and remember, 4 grams is one teaspoon). The point isn’t fear. It’s that once you know the trick, reading a package takes ten seconds. Carter pushed into the harder question - the one we keep circling. The $15 billion a year CPGs spend keeping you in the potato chip lane. The Kroger data showing customers index 8% toward whole food the second you move them from in-store to online, away from the endcaps and the signaling. His thesis: maybe people aren’t addicted to processed food so much as they’re trapped by friction and a marketing machine telling them to stay put. Rip didn’t fully cosign - he thinks there’s real engineering happening to hit the “bliss point” (salt on sugar on fat, lighting up the brain like a pinball machine) - but he made the case that healthy eating becomes its own kind of addictive once your numbers get sexy and you actually feel the difference. As he put it: nobody comes out of the womb craving black coffee or cigarettes. Those are learned. So is this. The richest stretch was on what Rip’s actually building. Plant Strong as the “easy button” - foundational products you dress up yourself (he called it the Geranimals model, and Carter ran with the Betty Crocker / “now you feel like a chef” angle). Clean label first, plant-based second - because, as Rip said, plant-based lost its health halo when everyone started using the same refined-grain, sugar, and oil tricks. His new motto: real that you can feel. The milks are almonds and water, no gums or emulsifiers, run on a hydro-release process powered by Niagara Falls. And the business reality nobody romanticizes: D2C is his deepest channel (close to 200K newsletter subscribers), retail slotting fees can take two and a half years to break even, and his advice to anyone entering CPG is to not start in retail - prove it on Amazon and DTC first, because the retail playground is brutal and full of bullies. I brought the room into the upstream conversation: the CMS ELEVATE program, up to 30 entities over two years, up to $3.3 million per grant for formal controlled research on lifestyle and functional interventions. The government will fund the research but explicitly won’t pay for the food. So the play I floated to Rip - and to Bob Jones at Chef’s Garden the night before - is to put a grant in next year with Plant Strong and regenerative ag in it, and solve the food-funding piece through another mechanism. Stop fixating on downstream reimbursement once someone’s already sick. Pull it upstream, before the chronic disease. The thing that landed for me was something my husband said on his birthday last week: he’s just going to stay fit now, because he knows how much better he feels. That’s the buffer against the Twinkie. The problem is most people are so deep in chronic inflammation they’ve forgotten what “good” even feels like. A challenge can’t just be about what the CGM says - it has to be about whether you slept better, moved better, felt better. And we may actually run that challenge. Rip has a two-week bundle (planstrong.com) - baseline your numbers, eat PlantSTRONG for breakfast, lunch, and dinner, retest. His data across 919 data points: roughly 22 points off total cholesterol, 12 off LDL, 20 off triglycerides, ~3 pounds in a single week, dose-responsive. We’re scheming a Food Is Health Substack version with our 25K readers. Do This One Thing Rip’s - start tomorrow with one whole-food, plant-strong breakfast. Doesn’t have to be Rip’s line - steel-cut oats, whole grain toast with avocado, a tofu scramble. And learn the only five words that make a grain whole: whole, sprouted, cracked, rolled, or stone ground. Everything else is processed. Carter’s - if you’re formulating or bringing a brand to market, prove it direct-to-consumer before you ever pay a slotting fee. And think about the “stack” of trust - package, education, customer experience - because scaling System C means simplifying that explanation for marketers, doctors, and grocers. Get full access to Food is Health at foodishealth.substack.com/subscribe [https://foodishealth.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4]

24. maj 2026 - 1 h 28 min
episode Pesticide liability shield and redesigning the food system cover

Pesticide liability shield and redesigning the food system

Kelly Ryerson joined us live this week, and the timing couldn’t have been scripted better. The House had just voted 280-142 to strip a pesticide liability shield from the farm bill - with 73 Republicans breaking from leadership. That’s not a MAHA moment. That’s a population renegotiating a 60-year-old contract on how society handles the externalities of innovation. The contract was built for a world where you couldn’t measure the harm. We can measure it now. (And Carter wrote a banger piece on this yesterday morning - outstanding. Go read it if you haven’t.) Kelly walked us through her own root cause story, which until last Friday at Ryland’s I somehow had never heard - even though she’s one of my besties (how did we not meet nine years ago at the IFM conference huddled in the root-cause corner together?? Carter says us together would’ve been trouble. He’s probably right.). Mysterious illness. Every specialist at Stanford and UCSF. Diagnosis: she must be crazy. The intake bloodwork - done at Theranos, you can’t make this up - eventually confirmed she was a starving person nobody had thought to check. Zero vitamin D. Zero vitamin C. B12 of 50 when it should be 500. Full gut dysbiosis. She went gluten-free, started feeling better, and at a Columbia conference asked a question nobody had answers to: is something happening on the farm? A General Mills insider found her afterwards and dropped the bomb - farmers spray Roundup on grain right before harvest as a desiccant. It goes straight into the food supply. Glyphosate acts like an antibiotic that selects against beneficial gut bacteria. The stuff you’re paying for at Whole Foods in probiotic bottles. We’re eating an antibiotic every single meal. I shared my own version - the diagnostic rabbit hole from hell, thinking I had MS, the ER doctor telling me I was having a panic attack and sending me home, the eight months of nobody diagnosing me with anything. What got me better? Food. The Wahls protocol. Six months. And the icing on my cake: my husband had penetrated our entire Florida lawn with Roundup while I was working from home with the air handler pumping it back at me. (I love him anyway.) Carter pulled the lens up to the structural question - companies build things, those things have externalities, and we granted liability shields decades ago because we couldn’t really measure harm. Now we can. In silico testing. Animal models. AI sitting next to Dr. Joe Pizzorno at dinner in Nashville last week, holding its own on diabetogens - and Joe, the most skeptical AI critic at the table, conceding it was actually pretty right. The visibility era has arrived. The System B architecture was never designed to survive it. Kelly’s point that’s been sitting with me since: 57,000 pesticide products were sitting under that liability shield, the vast majority manufactured by ChemChina and foreign chemical corporations. We’re not protecting American companies anymore — Bayer is German, Monsanto got absorbed. There’s no national security defense left to make. Meanwhile rural red communities are getting the rawest end of it: well water contamination, air spray, the cancer that hits everyone in town. Kelly lost her father-in-law to ALS that Duke attributed to pesticide exposure, her mother-in-law to cancer, both in their early 70s in rural North Carolina. Those constituents are the ones who flipped this vote. Personal experience. Celiac. Kids who can’t focus until you take them off gluten and dyes. Pregnancies that won’t take. That’s what’s moving the Republicans, not a press release. The whole conversation kept circling the System C through-line. This isn’t about banning glyphosate into submission - it’s about making it so you don’t need it. Fix soil health, fix nutrient density, fix the feedback loop between food input and human outcome, and the chemical treadmill becomes economically irrational. Carter’s line that landed for me: the goal isn’t a grocery store where you have to pull out an app to figure out what’s safe. It’s a grocery store where you don’t have to ask the question at all. Pretty much anything you can buy is good for you. That’s the reusable rocket. And just like SpaceX, we get there by working backward from the first-principles outcome - not forward from where we’re stuck. We had to bring it in early because Bristol the German Shepherd was losing her mind over what may have been Kermit the Frog. Worth it. Get full access to Food is Health at foodishealth.substack.com/subscribe [https://foodishealth.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4]

10. maj 2026 - 1 h 12 min
episode How A Room Redesigns A New $9T Economy cover

How A Room Redesigns A New $9T Economy

By 2050, it should be hard to make a bad decision in the grocery store. That’s the goal. What happened in this room was a step toward making it real. This week at Food Health LIVE, our Innovation Lab brought together over 50 cross-sector industry leaders representing the full chain of soil to cell. Farmers, seed geneticists, food banks, clinicians, ingredients companies, advanced diagnostics, CPG founders, health insurers, community food organizers, measurement technologists and many others, and asked them to do something rooms like this don’t attempt often. We asked them to build the system in real time, with real people, in the room. We threaded the needle from soil to cell and here are a few things I took away. P.s. keep an eye out for a soon to come list of exclusive discounts from the companies delivering System C for paid subscribers. The Pieces Exist. The Loop Doesn’t. One of the most important things that happened in that room wasn’t just a single conversation, it was the accumulation of all of them. At the end of the 3 hours, you could trace a line from the farmer who knows exactly how his growing practices affect the glucosinolate content of his broccoli, through the ingredient company that’s spent a decade developing a fiber profile that heals the gut, through the CPG brand whose products show a 21-point cholesterol reduction in clinical data, through the insurer who’s already covering food as medicine and showing a 3-to-1 return on investment, through the technologist who’s figured out how to measure metabolic health in under two minutes simply using an ultrasound and another innovator who is doing the same via cellphone. Every node in that chain was in the room but the loop doesn’t close here. Not yet. The Market Signal Is the Whole Game People miss this when they assume the problem is supply. Better seeds, cleaner ingredients, more regenerative farms. Yes. All of that matters but supply is not the real constraint. Consumer demand is the trigger that matters. Right now, food is priced on features – grams of fiber, sugar content, organic certification – not on outcomes. A farmer who grows broccoli with twice the glucosinolate content gets paid the same as the farmer who doesn’t, because no one downstream is asking for it. In large part because consumers can get that information. A CPG company that can demonstrate that its product reduces inflammation in a measurable, personalized way can’t communicate that without going through a pharmaceutical-grade FDA claims process it can’t afford. Yet the technology to measure human outcomes at the individual level is collapsing in cost with $80 blood panels, CGMs on instant order, and AI-powered metabolic imaging, but that data isn’t connected to the supply chain. Not yet. When a consumer can measure what a food does to their body, share it, and have that data feed backward through retail into CPG into ingredient sourcing into seed genetics, that’s the market signal that rewrites the economics of the entire food system. That’s the flywheel. The diagnostic infrastructure is the crank. The room saw this unfold over the course of the morning. The question then became how quickly and with what combination of existing measurement tools can this infrastructure to deliver the missing that outcome layer. Reimbursement Is Not the Solution A lot of the work happening in food as medicine right now is focused on reimbursement. Getting medically tailored meals covered. Getting produce prescriptions into Medicaid. Getting food written into value-based care contracts. All of it matters and is important. All of that cost burden is downstream once disease is already established. It operates in System B (as B+). We need to expand this upstream so it isn’t reliant of downstream funding which is fundamental to System C. Downstream reimbursement as an intervention is System B+. It’s the best version of the current system and we should pursue it, because it funds the transition to System C and proves the outcomes. But, reimbursement still sits on top of a broken economic architecture. You haven’t changed the system when you’ve convinced it to pay for a workaround. Ellen pushed on this hard in the room. She asked one of the medically tailored meal founders point-blank, “if you could wave a magic wand, would you want to be upstream of all this where people never develop the disease that requires your intervention in the first place?” He said yes. So did almost everyone else when pressed. The goal is food that is so affordable, accessible, and nutritionally dense that chronic disease becomes rare. Not simply managed. Rare. That’s the engineering challenge and reimbursement is a funding mechanism on the way there, not the place you’re trying to get to. This distinction matters because it determines where you invest your energy. System B+ is about negotiating better terms inside a broken system. But when you add System C as the long game you can build it using System B to fund it. The Access Problem Is Built Into the Architecture, or It’s Not Real A food bank director stood up and said what is often avoided – if your solution requires people to be able to afford to shop differently, it’s not a new system, it’s a premium tier. And she was right. Ellen shared a story about a woman who graduated from a Food Is Medicine program. In 8 months she learned to cook – she and her son made eggplant together – and her relationship with food had been transformed. And then she shared – I’m going to have to go back to eating what I was eating before. I can’t afford anything else. The food bank doesn’t have eggplant. That’s not someone “unwilling to change”. That’s what it looks like when the system is designed from top to bottom for the wrong outcome. The economic model of System C isn’t “healthy food for people who can pay for it.” It’s “fix the cost structure upstream so that nutritionally dense food is the affordable default everywhere – in the grocery store, the food pantry, the hospital cafeteria, and the corner store.” That’s not simply charity, it’s engineering, and a complete system re-design. And it really comes back to outcomes data. AI Is The Reusable Rocket of Healthcare. Ellen made a point that I want to echo here, “AI primary care is effectively free already. For $20 a month you can access something better than most physician consultations for general health questions. The reusable rocket has landed.” What that means for the future design specifically is that the cost of knowledge – personalized, synthesized, acted on – is approaching zero. The “n of one” medicine that used to require a $500 blood panel at minimum, interpreted by a concierge doc charging $1000 to review, is moving towards less than $100. That changes the measurement economics, the clinical workflow, and who can access personalized nutrition guidance. At the same time, it creates a new problem – all that intelligence and information is worthless if it’s not connected to a food supply that can actually respond to it. The knowledge layer and the supply chain layer have to close the loop on each other. AI accelerates the knowledge layer. The supply chain transformation still needs work. And a new system. So What? The food and health system is not going to be reformed from the inside. The organizations embedded in the current state - the food companies, the insurance companies, the hospital systems – are doing exactly what they were designed to do. So much so that Ellen and Carter have named their first book “Nobody Did Anything Wrong”. These companies are not villains. They are optimizing for the metrics they were built around. The metrics that produce and monetize chronic disease. What will actually change the system is a parallel architecture that makes the old one irrelevant. That’s what System C is. Yesterday you could see all the pieces of it – the soil science, the measurement technology, the clinical proof points, the reimbursement innovation, the community infrastructure, the AI layer – come together. The reusable rocket doesn’t become reusable until launch. System C is doing its final pre-launch checklist. Not a paid subscriber yet? Get on it, new discount benefits hitting soon. You can take advantage of the special subscription opportunity for those who were physically in the room until Sunday - $99 for a full year (a discount of over 40% off!) for the first 20 (only 10 slots are left). Use this LINK [http://foodishealth.substack.com/first20] and if the discount price doesn’t show, enter the url foodishealth.substack.com/first20. Get full access to Food is Health at foodishealth.substack.com/subscribe [https://foodishealth.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4]

30. apr. 2026 - 3 min
episode The Doctor Who Knows It's Broken: Livestream with Dr. Adam Carewe cover

The Doctor Who Knows It's Broken: Livestream with Dr. Adam Carewe

We are creating System C. Therefore, we are focused on the operating framework and inviting guests accordingly. We were joined by one of our favorite MDs - Adam Carewe MD [https://substack.com/profile/99119140-adam-carewe-md]. We talked about how AI is actively reshaping healthcare delivery not in theory, but right now, in clinical practice. Adam’s work at General Medicine is a live example: using AI to aggregate patient-provided data before visits, provide decision support, and catch what humans miss. This ultimately seeks to solve the 7 minute visit dilemma. He gave the example of a colon cancer screening catch (positive stool test buried in 21 pdfs). I shared my use case of Claude for a primary care visit to arrive with better synthesis than the clinician, only to be told the system B response: “I didn’t have a chance to read what you sent over - note I sent a 300 character detaile summary with biometrics. Something that takes 1 minute at best to read. Instead she said “tell me what’s going on, and just to set expectations, we only have 20 minutes.” The System C alternative is already being lived by a small group of early adopters who’ve figured out how to use AI as a genuine health partner, not a search engine. The second thread was about where System C breaks down at scale and what it would actually take to get there. Carter Williams [https://substack.com/profile/4021552-carter-williams] busted out the Raptor 1/2/3 engine analogy that cut to the heart of it: the technology is getting dramatically better, but the feedback loops that would let the system learn from failure (missed aneurysms, false positives, ineffective cancer drugs) are slow, siloed, and politicized. Adam’s vision for what comes next was brilliant, a platform that intercepts healthcare demand upstream, before people even enter the traditional system. It’s the System C end state: frictionless, concierge-quality, AI-augmented care that makes the incumbent model as obsolete as the horse and buggy that is AFFORDABLE AND SCALABLE. The friction-removal frame (air fryer broccoli, grocery store design, end cap placement) connected food system and healthcare system design as the same engineering problem. System C is being built now by the people in the room. Thank you for those that jumped into comments such as Tina Simpson, Mental Health [https://substack.com/profile/483659899-tina-simpson-mental-health], Mark Miller [https://substack.com/profile/72494707-mark-miller], APASAS Health [https://substack.com/profile/183549169-apasas-health], and all of the others for tuning into our live video! Join me for my next live video in the app. Get full access to Food is Health at foodishealth.substack.com/subscribe [https://foodishealth.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4]

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