The Ryan Vet Show

Nicki Petrossi: Scrolling 2 Death, AI Companion Bots, and the Fight to Keep Kids Safe Online

Content warning: this episode discusses online harms to children, including suicide, self-harm, and online predation. Listener discretion is advised. If you or someone you know is struggling, call or text 988 in the US to reach the Suicide and Crisis Lifeline. Nicki Petrossi spent years managing social media for tech companies and their executives. Then she started learning how bad the internet had become for kids, and she could not stop. Today she hosts Scrolling 2 Death, one of the most important resources parents have for understanding what is really happening to children online. Ryan and Nicki go past the usual social media conversation into the traps most parents are not watching: Roblox and online gaming, encrypted chat apps like Discord, and the fast rising world of AI companion bots designed to befriend, isolate, and addict young users. Nicki explains why the common excuse, "my kid will be left out," gets the risk backwards, and why keeping a child off these platforms is an act of love, not deprivation. They dig into the velocity gap, the reality that technology is accelerating faster than our morality and wisdom can keep up, and what that means when the companies on the other side have hired neuroscientists to build the most addictive products ever made. Nicki shares what is finally changing: Australia and the UK raising the minimum age to 16, more than 1,500 school districts taking action, court cases turning on internal documents, and a growing parent movement demanding safety by design. Most important, Nicki offers hope. It is never too late to change your family's relationship with screens. She walks through practical steps for every stage, from newborns to teens, and makes the case that the single most powerful thing a parent can do is stay a safe, open place their kid can always come back to. In this episode: Why "everyone else has it" is the wrong reason to hand over a device The online dangers beyond social media: gaming, encrypted chat, and AI companions What the data shows about Gen Z and chatbots, and why it is climbing fast The velocity gap, and why regulation has been so slow How schools and parents can work together The truth about YouTube and YouTube Kids A practical blueprint for families at every age Learn more about Nicki's work at scrolling2death.com. Send us Fan Mail [https://www.buzzsprout.com/2557074/fan_mail/new] ABOUT RYAN VET Ryan Vet [https://ryanvet.com/?ref=podcast] is a USA TODAY bestselling author, futurist [https://ryanvet.com/futurist/], and international keynote speaker whose insights on generations, culture, and the future of work have been featured in Forbes, Financial Times, ABC, NBC, and CBS. His research helps leaders understand emerging generational patterns and anticipate societal shifts before they fully unfold. JOIN 20,000+ LEADERS FOR WEEKLY INSIGHTS If you want deeper research and behind-the-scenes insights on generations and the future of culture and society, join Ryan’s weekly newsletter: 👉 https://ryanvet.com/collide

America Turns 250: They Signed the Declaration Without Agreeing - United Not Uniform, the Generational Pendulum, and the Middle Ground We Never Lost

On July 4, 1776, fifty-six men who agreed on almost nothing signed the Declaration of Independence anyway. Two hundred fifty years later, we have forgotten how they did it. Generational futurist, USA TODAY bestselling author, and international keynote speaker Ryan Vet marks America's 250th anniversary by walking back into the Pennsylvania State House on Chestnut Street. The signers ranged in age from 26 to 70. They were lawyers and ministers, immigrants and planters, men of different faiths and fortunes who disagreed about nearly everything. This episode of The Ryan Vet Show makes the case that the founders were united, not uniform, and asks what shapes us as a people when we lead with our labels instead of the common ground that was there the whole time. Key Takeaways * The 56 signers ranged in age from 26 to 70, averaging around 44 (National Archives). More than two generations stood shoulder to shoulder, and they argued the whole way. * The pen went to Jefferson at 33, not to Franklin at 70. Franklin's restraint, knowing when to step back, was its own kind of leadership. * Jefferson's one pre-Adams edit changed "sacred and undeniable" to "self-evident" (Becker, 1922). Common ground never required shared belief. It required a willingness to reason together. * 41 of the 56 signers owned slaves at some point, beneath the line "all men are created equal." The promise was freedom. The practice was not. It took a war, a proclamation, and a march on Washington to start closing that distance. * The Generational Pendulum: every generation reacts against the one before it, overcorrects, and hands its children a fresh set of problems to correct in turn. * Americans still agree more than we are told. In May 2026, 69% said the country has achieved at least a fair amount of its founding ideals, across party lines and age groups (Gallup, 2026). Ask what unites us and the most common answer is simply freedom (AP-NORC, 2026). * Adams and Jefferson were enemies for eleven years, then exchanged more than 150 letters late in life, and died within hours of each other on July 4, 1826, fifty years to the day. They chose each other again without ever agreeing. Research and Sources Cited * Jefferson's Weather Records and the National Archives signer factsheet on the room, the ages, and the day * Carl Becker (1922) and Michael Zuckert (1987) on "self-evident" versus "sacred" truth * Martin Luther King Jr. (1963) reading the country its own sentence back at the Lincoln Memorial * Yascha Mounk (2023), The Identity Trap, on letting the category stand in for the person * Gallup (2026) and AP-NORC (2024, 2026) on founding ideals, shared values, and what unites us * Cultural touchstone: John Trumbull's Declaration painting (the calm image we inherited that was never the room) Connect with Ryan Vet * Read the full Collide essay: https://ryanvet.com/collide/america-turns-250-they-signed-the-declaration-without-agreeing/ * Subscribe to the Collide newsletter: https://ryanvet.com/collide * Learn more and book Ryan to speak: https://ryanvet.com Send us Fan Mail [https://www.buzzsprout.com/2557074/fan_mail/new] ABOUT RYAN VET Ryan Vet [https://ryanvet.com/?ref=podcast] is a USA TODAY bestselling author, futurist [https://ryanvet.com/futurist/], and international keynote speaker whose insights on generations, culture, and the future of work have been featured in Forbes, Financial Times, ABC, NBC, and CBS. His research helps leaders understand emerging generational patterns and anticipate societal shifts before they fully unfold. JOIN 20,000+ LEADERS FOR WEEKLY INSIGHTS If you want deeper research and behind-the-scenes insights on generations and the future of culture and society, join Ryan’s weekly newsletter: 👉 https://ryanvet.com/collide

Weh'yee Barkon: The Millennial Digital Nomad, Africa Rising, and Building a Borderless Life

What happens when you trade a fast-rising San Francisco startup job for a one-way ticket to Casablanca and no plan past three nights in a hostel? Weh'yee Barkon found out. He joins Ryan Vet, a friend of more than two decades, to talk about the digital nomad life, rediscovering his roots, and building businesses across Africa. Weh'yee was employee number seven at a fast-growing electronics-recycling startup, helping it climb from roughly one million to nearly seven million in annual revenue. He was traveling constantly and climbing the ladder, but he wasn't fulfilled, and the pace was wearing on his health. Single, no kids, and standing in front of an open window of time, he bought a one-way ticket from San Francisco to Casablanca and spent the next twelve months moving through eleven countries, much of it overland. As a first-generation Liberian-American whose parents were born and raised in Liberia, the trip was about more than travel. It was about rediscovering where he comes from. Along the way he lived on a Workaway program, farmed in the Sahara, hosted a hostel in Seville, and eventually crossed into Senegal, where an accidental moment with a refugee family and a bag of charcoal became the spark for everything that came next. Today he runs Africa Rising, a recruitment firm that connects skilled African talent to global companies, alongside on-the-ground businesses including short-term rentals in Dakar, a poultry farm, and a butcher shop in Kigali, Rwanda. This conversation is really about the future of work. Weh'yee and Ryan dig into why a lean team of two to five people plus AI can now do what once took fifty, why the return-to-office fight is the same push and pull that follows every period of change, and why, in the age of AI, the real edge is getting back on the ground and shaking hands. In this episode: * Why Weh'yee left a fast-rising San Francisco startup at the top of his climb * The one-way ticket to Casablanca, eleven countries, and traveling overland with about ten thousand dollars * Rediscovering his Liberian roots as a first-generation Liberian-American * Workaway, a month farming in the Sahara, and hosting a hostel in Seville * Why we become "country club visitors" of other countries, and how to actually experience a place * The charcoal-bag moment in Senegal that became his entrepreneurial spark * Africa Rising: connecting elite African talent to global companies, and why it is a win-win-win * Hedging online income with real-world businesses: rentals in Dakar, a farm, a butcher shop in Kigali * Why a team of two to five people plus AI can now do what once took fifty * The return-to-office push and pull, and Ryan's advice to leaders afraid of distributed work * Why the age of AI is sparking a renaissance of in-person, on-the-ground connection Connect with Weh'yee Barkon: * Africa Rising: africarising.work * LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/wehyeeba Connect with Ryan Vet: * Website: ryanvet.com * COLLIDE Newsletter: ryanvet.com/collide * LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/ryanvet * Instagram: instagram.com/ryancvet * Book Ryan as a Keynote Speaker: ryanvet.com/generational-speaker Subscribe to The Ryan Vet Show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and wherever you get your podcasts. The guest era continues every Monday at 6am ET. Next week: Nicki Petrosi on "Scrolling to Death," and what always-on screens are doing to all of us. The COLLIDE essay podcast continues every Thursday at 7am ET. Send us Fan Mail [https://www.buzzsprout.com/2557074/fan_mail/new] ABOUT RYAN VET Ryan Vet [https://ryanvet.com/?ref=podcast] is a USA TODAY bestselling author, futurist [https://ryanvet.com/futurist/], and international keynote speaker whose insights on generations, culture, and the future of work have been featured in Forbes, Financial Times, ABC, NBC, and CBS. His research helps leaders understand emerging generational patterns and anticipate societal shifts before they fully unfold. JOIN 20,000+ LEADERS FOR WEEKLY INSIGHTS If you want deeper research and behind-the-scenes insights on generations and the future of culture and society, join Ryan’s weekly newsletter: 👉 https://ryanvet.com/collide

Is America Going Black and White Again? - The Wizard of Oz, Gen Z's Grayscale Rebellion, and the Overstimulation Era

The Wizard of Oz taught a generation to gasp when the world turned to color. Now Gen Z is deliberately turning its phones back to black and white. Generational futurist, USA TODAY bestselling author, and international keynote speaker Ryan Vet starts with a viral photo, two rows of cars sixty years apart, captioned "America is losing its color," and goes looking for the numbers. What he finds is a culture draining toward white, black, and gray, from cars to countertops to the grayscale screens Gen Z is choosing on purpose. This episode of The Ryan Vet Show asks whether all that restraint is peace or avoidance, and what the overstimulation era is really signaling. Don't miss this week's Monday guest episode with Lenore Skenazy, founder of Free-Range Kids, on why overprotection is the real danger. Key Takeaways * By 2024, roughly four out of five new passenger cars worldwide were white, black, gray, or silver (BASF, 2024). White and off-white together make up about 70% of US countertop choices (Houzz, 2024). * 71% of Americans report overstimulation, and Gen Z carries the heaviest load at 85%, nearly twice the rate of Boomers at 47% (Best Therapies, 2026). * Students who switched their phones to grayscale used them about 40 minutes less per day, with the steepest drops in social media (Holte and Ferraro, 2020). Bright color is the reward. Take it away, and the slot machine goes dark. * Gen Z is the only age group actively shrinking its digital footprint (PYMNTS Intelligence, 2024), and built a movement around buying less called underconsumption core (McKinsey and Company, 2024). It cut overall spending about 13% in early 2025 (PwC, 2025). * The bare white room and the dim gray phone may be the same instinct aimed at two screens: when the input will not stop, you turn down the part you can. * The open question is whether this is calm or avoidance. A grayscale screen reads as discipline in one hand and exhaustion in the other. Research and Sources Cited * BASF (2024), Houzz (2024), and Fixr (2024) on the neutral drift across cars, countertops, and home palettes * Best Therapies (2026) and the American Psychological Association (2023) on overstimulation and Gen Z stress * Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (2023) on teen screen time * Holte and Ferraro (2020) and Dekker and Baumgartner (2024) on grayscale smartphone interventions * PYMNTS Intelligence (2024), McKinsey and Company (2024), and PwC (2025) on Gen Z's shrinking footprint and underconsumption core * Northeast Recycling Council (2024), EPA (2018), and McDonald's (2021) on the recycling era that shaped Millennials * Cultural touchstone: The Wizard of Oz (1939) Connect with Ryan Vet * Read the full Collide essay: https://ryanvet.com/collide/gen-z-is-turning-its-phones-black-and-white/ * Subscribe to the Collide newsletter: https://ryanvet.com/collide * Learn more and book Ryan to speak: https://ryanvet.com Send us Fan Mail [https://www.buzzsprout.com/2557074/fan_mail/new] ABOUT RYAN VET Ryan Vet [https://ryanvet.com/?ref=podcast] is a USA TODAY bestselling author, futurist [https://ryanvet.com/futurist/], and international keynote speaker whose insights on generations, culture, and the future of work have been featured in Forbes, Financial Times, ABC, NBC, and CBS. His research helps leaders understand emerging generational patterns and anticipate societal shifts before they fully unfold. JOIN 20,000+ LEADERS FOR WEEKLY INSIGHTS If you want deeper research and behind-the-scenes insights on generations and the future of culture and society, join Ryan’s weekly newsletter: 👉 https://ryanvet.com/collide

Lenore Skenazy: Free Range Kids and Why Overprotection Is the Real Danger

We convinced ourselves that childhood is more dangerous than ever, right as crime hit historic lows. Lenore Skenazy, founder of Free Range Kids and president of Let Grow, joins The Ryan Vet Show to explain why overprotection became the actual threat, and how to give kids their independence back. In 2008, Lenore Skenazy let her nine year old ride the New York City subway home alone. He had begged for it. He made it back levitating with pride. She wrote a column about it, and within two days she was on the Today Show, MSNBC, Fox News, and NPR defending herself against the title that stuck: America's Worst Mom. She turned that moment into Free Range Kids, and then into Let Grow, the nonprofit she co-founded with psychologists Jonathan Haidt and Peter Gray to make childhood independence normal and easy again. In this conversation with host Ryan Vet, Lenore unpacks how American fear got so distorted. She traces the spike to the 1980s: the arrival of 24 hour cable news, a handful of high profile abductions, and missing kid photos on milk cartons that left out the context. The result is a culture where, by one University of Michigan finding she cites, half of parents of nine to eleven year olds will not let their child walk to a different aisle in a store. Meanwhile the data points the other way. Lenore cites figures putting the American homicide rate back to where it was around 1900, and notes that a genuine stranger kidnapping is so rare you would have to leave a child outside for hundreds of thousands of years for it to become statistically likely. The cost of all that protection is not neutral. Drawing on Peter Gray's work, Lenore argues that as children's real world independence has declined over decades, anxiety and depression have climbed, because independence is how kids build an internal locus of control, the felt sense that they can handle things. Ryan connects this to his Generational Pendulum, from latchkey kids to helicopter parents to today's digital leash. Lenore's sharpest point lands on tracking apps: with around 86 percent of children now tracked, she argues we are replacing faith with certainty, and certainty is more fragile because you have to keep checking it. The episode closes on what actually works. The only thing that changes anxiety, Lenore says, is action. She walks through Let Grow's free programs, the Reasonable Childhood Independence laws now passed in 13 states, and a Harris finding that kids themselves rank free play first and time online last. They are there by default, not by desire. In this episode: * The subway story that made Lenore America's Worst Mom, and what her son actually learned that day * Why American fear spiked in the 1980s: 24 hour cable news, high profile abductions, and the milk carton effect * The University of Michigan finding that half of parents of nine to eleven year olds will not let them go to a different aisle in a store * Why a stranger kidnapping is statistically so rare, and the homicide rate's return to roughly 1900 levels * Internal versus external locus of control, and how independence builds resilience * Peter Gray's research linking the decades long decline in independence to rising anxiety and depression * The tracking trap: why around 86 percent of kids are now monitored, and why certainty is more anxious than trust * Ryan's Generational Pendulum: latchkey kids, helicopter parents, and the digital leash * Let Grow's free programs: the Let Grow Experience, the Let Grow Play Club, and the Independence Kit * The 13 states that have passed Reasonable Childhood Independence laws, usually with bipartisan support * The Harris finding that kids rank free play first and online last when choosing how to spend time with friends Referenced in this episode: * Let Grow: letgrow.org [https://letgrow.org] * Free-Range Kids by Lenore Skenazy (2009, re-released 2021) * Jonathan Haidt and Peter Gray, co-founders of Let Grow * Peter Gray's research on declining independence and rising youth anxiety * The Anxious Generation by Jonathan Haidt * Kevin Stinehart and the Let Grow Play Club (last week's episode) Connect with Ryan Vet: * Website: ryanvet.com [https://ryanvet.com] * COLLIDE Newsletter: ryanvet.com/collide [https://ryanvet.com/collide] * LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/ryanvet [https://linkedin.com/in/ryanvet] * Instagram: instagram.com/ryancvet [https://instagram.com/ryancvet] * Book Ryan as a Keynote Speaker: ryanvet.com/generational-speaker [https://ryanvet.com/generational-speaker] Subscribe to The Ryan Vet Show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and wherever you get your podcasts. The guest era continues every Monday at 6am ET. Next week: Weh'yee Barkon on the millennial digital nomad, work without borders, and what a location independent life really costs. The COLLIDE essay podcast continues every Thursday at 7am ET. Send us Fan Mail [https://www.buzzsprout.com/2557074/fan_mail/new] ABOUT RYAN VET Ryan Vet [https://ryanvet.com/?ref=podcast] is a USA TODAY bestselling author, futurist [https://ryanvet.com/futurist/], and international keynote speaker whose insights on generations, culture, and the future of work have been featured in Forbes, Financial Times, ABC, NBC, and CBS. His research helps leaders understand emerging generational patterns and anticipate societal shifts before they fully unfold. JOIN 20,000+ LEADERS FOR WEEKLY INSIGHTS If you want deeper research and behind-the-scenes insights on generations and the future of culture and society, join Ryan’s weekly newsletter: 👉 https://ryanvet.com/collide