Voyage Clinics Podcast

Building Resilience Through Life's Hardest Moments | Advice from Michael Webb Part 2

Dr. Sanders continues his conversation with Michael Webb. They dive into their thoughts about death, dying, and the gift of preparation. Dr. Sanders draws on his own background delivering babies and providing hospice care as a rural family physician in Moab. He explores what it looks like when end-of-life care is handled with clarity, communication, and love, rather than fear. Michael shares his own story of caring for his mother, Roberta, through her final months. He talks about the hard conversations around transfusions and DNR orders, and what it feels like to take on the work of stepping in as the primary decision-maker for someone. Their conversation covers all aspects of caring for someone at the end of their life, both the good and the bad. In the end, they conclude that it’s all beautiful, even when it’s hard. Chapters [Start] The Final Transfusion: Michael Webb dives into sharing his mother's end-of-life story, including the family decisions it entailed. 04:22 Getting Everyone on the Same Page: A discussion of why family alignment around a dying patient's wishes matters, and how to have family meetings about the patients. 10:22 Autonomy at the End of Life: The importance of preserving a dying person's sense of control and identity, even in small ways. 16:09 Caregiver Fatigue: Dr. Sanders discusses home health, nurse assessments, and the guilt many caregivers feel. 29:17 Reflections on Grief: How a well-supported death can shape the grieving process, and how hospice is a service for the whole family. Links & Resources * https://voyageclinics.com/ [https://voyageclinics.com/]  Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

Building Better Teams and Relationships | Advice from Michael Webb Part 1

What does hiring the right employee have to do with our health? Hiring the right employee, and becoming the right employee, is critical to success in life, which has everything to do with our health. Dr. John Sanders sits down with his neighbor and friend Michael Webb, a 35-year veteran of the recruiting industry, to explore how personality, motivation, and human connection apply just as much to running a household as they do to running a team. Michael breaks down how hiring decisions can go wrong from the start, and how personality traits shape who thrives in a given role. Managing people the way you'd want to be managed is often the biggest mistake a boss, or a parent, can make. Michael touches on the aspects of parenting kids with different strengths, as well as the difficult process of letting an employee go. He closes with a powerful reflection on how the hardest moments in life can shape a person's capacity to handle future adversity. This episode is full of practical insight into leadership and connection, with some old-fashioned advice from two good friends. Chapters [Start] Meet Michael Webb: Dr. Sanders introduces his neighbor and recruiting industry veteran, Michael Webb. 02:37 Starting With the End in Mind: Why most hiring goes wrong, and how personality traits can shape the job fit. 14:32 Managing People the Way They Need: Avoiding the mistake of managing others the way you'd want to be managed, and adapting to specific needs. 18:30 Letting Go of the Wrong Hire: How to stay connected to remote teams and handle difficult terminations of employees. 36:06 The Power of Grit: Michael’s question of questions, and how overcoming hardship predicts long-term success and resilience. Links & Resources * https://voyageclinics.com/ [https://voyageclinics.com/]  Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

Psychedelic-Assisted Therapy Explained | The Future of Psychiatry with Dr. Reid Robison

Dr. John Sanders sits down with Dr. Reid Robison, a psychiatrist and clinical researcher based in Orem, Utah, to discuss the evolving landscape of mental health treatment. They dive into the limitations of traditional psychiatric tools like SSRIs, and open up about interventional psychiatry, including ketamine, TMS, and psychedelic-assisted therapy. Dr. Robison shares his firsthand experience running clinical trials with psychedelics, explaining how these compounds work on the brain to dissolve rigid thinking patterns, open neuroplasticity windows, and even facilitate lasting healing. The two end by looking at the practical concerns of these treatments, and how clinicians can begin preparing for a future in which some of these treatments may be FDA-approved and available in clinical settings. Chapters [Start] Introducing Dr. Robison: Dr. Sanders introduces Dr. Robison, who shares his path from BYU neuroscience to psychiatry research at the University of Utah. 06:31 How Ketamine Works: How ketamine works in neurological mechanisms, and how therapy can be layered in. 12:59 Psychedelic Medicines: A deep dive into psilocybin, MDMA, and LSD studies currently in Phase 2 and 3 trials. 23:32 A Look at Other Resources: Dr. Robison explains how other modalities work in treating different types of ailments. 36:45 Cautions & Addiction Potential: Who should avoid these therapies, the risks of unsupported use, and why classical psychedelics carry far lower addiction risk. Links & Resources * https://voyageclinics.com/ [https://voyageclinics.com/]  Connect with Dr. Robison: https://www.reidrobison.com/ [https://www.reidrobison.com/] Dr. Robison's clinic & trial enrollment: https://www.innerspaceresearch.com/ [https://www.innerspaceresearch.com/] Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

Does Google Really Know Your Diagnosis? | Researching Your Own Health with Holly Hawkins

Have you ever found yourself Googling your symptoms to see what your potential diagnosis could be? So have tons of other people. Let’s talk about it. Dr. John Sanders teams up again with Holly Hawkins as they tackle the most commonly Googled health questions. From mental health and hormones to diet and heart disease, Dr. Sanders brings evidence-based medicine and his own experience to some of the questions his patients are searching for answers to. Dr. Sanders and Holly talk about how AI tools like Grok and ChatGPT simply can't replicate the intuition built over years of clinical practice, and the value of treating the whole person, not just the symptom. It's practical, it's honest, and it just might save you a late-night WebMD spiral. Chapters [Start] AI vs. Your Doctor: Dr. Sanders and Holly talk about the pros and cons of using Google and AI to figure out your health. 02:53 Stress, Anxiety & Depression: Questions from the internet regarding symptoms of mental health in everyday life. 14:22 Sleep Health: Talking about the importance of sleep regarding hormone levels and overall physical health. 28:01 Detoxes & Cleanses: A discussion about juice cleanses and anti-inflammatory diets; do they actually work? 33:32 Heart Disease Warning Signs & Prevention: Ways to be on the lookout for heart attacks and heart problems. Links & Resources * https://voyageclinics.com/ [https://voyageclinics.com/]  Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

Inside the Default Mode Network | A Different Look at Mental Health with Holly Hawkins

What if the voice in your head isn't telling you the truth?  Dr. John Sanders sits down with Holly Hawkins to explore a part of the brain most people have never heard of: the Default Mode Network (DMN). Drawing on years of experience in family medicine, he breaks down how this network shapes our sense of identity and the stories we tell ourselves. Whether it's anxiety, depression, or a nagging sense of not being good enough, the roots often trace back to patterns formed long before we were aware of them. Holly opens up about the conditional beliefs around love she carried from childhood, her experience with ketamine therapy, and the ongoing work of rewiring thought patterns. Together, they make the case that healing the Default Mode Network isn't a one-time fix. It's a lifelong practice of awareness, courage, and compassion toward yourself. Chapters [Start] The Mental Game of Athletics: Dr. Sanders welcomes Holly Hawkins, and she reflects on how her self-worth became tied to performance and external validation. 04:18 The Default Mode Network: The neuroscience behind the DMN and how the brain works to form identity and inner dialogue. 15:30 The DMN and Mental Health: How mental health struggles are often symptoms of a deeper narrative problem, and that medication alone doesn't reach the root. 21:09 Ketamine Therapy: How psychedelic-assisted therapy can interrupt the DMN and create an opening for new beliefs to take hold. 31:10 Natural Tools for Rewiring the DMN: Accessible, non-pharmaceutical ways to loosen an unhealthy inner narrative and how to build them. Links & Resources * https://voyageclinics.com/ [https://voyageclinics.com/]  Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice nor as a substitute for professional medical consultation, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.