Risky Business Stories

How the World Got Owned Episode 2: The 1990s, Part One

In this special documentary episode, Patrick Gray and Amberleigh Jack take a look back at hacking throughout the 1990s, from the feel-good vibes of the early hacking communities to the antics of young hackers who wound up on the run from the FBI. Part one features recollections from: * Jeff Moss (The Dark Tangent), DefCon and Black Hat founder * Chris Wysopal (Weld Pond), L0pht member, co-founder, @Stake * Kevin Poulsen (Dark Dante), 1990s hacker turned journalist * Elias Levy (Aleph One), author of Smashing the Stack for Fun and Profit, Phrack, 1996 How the World Got Owned is produced in partnership with SentinelOne. SHOW NOTES * Elias Levy (Aleph1), Former Principle Engineer, Google [https://www.linkedin.com/in/aleph1/] * Kevin Poulsen, Journalist [https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevin-poulsen/] * Jeff Moss, DefCon founder [https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffmoss/] * Chris Wysopal, @Stake founder, L0pht member [https://www.linkedin.com/in/wysopal/] * Hackers testifying at the United States Senate, May 19, 1998 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVJldn_MmMY] * Hackers May ‘Net’ Good PR for Studio [https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1995-08-12-fi-34262-story.html] * DefCon Archives | DefCon 1 [https://defcon.org/html/defcon-1/defcon-1.html] * A Not So Terribly Brief History of the Electronic Frontier Foundation [https://www.eff.org/pages/not-terribly-brief-history-electronic-frontier-foundation] * Innocent Hackers Want Their Computers Back [https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg13418201-400-innocent-hackers-want-their-computers-back/] * Breakdowns in Computer Security [https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/chapter/edited-volume/abs/pii/B9781483106076500235?via%3Dihub] * Unsolved Mysteries, Season 3, Episode 4 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAFFjZn8f70] * The Last Hacker: He Called Himself Dark Dante. His Compulsion Led Him to Secret Files and, Eventually, The Bar of Justice [https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1993-09-12-tm-34163-story.html] * Justia appeal summary, Kevin Poulsen, 1994 [https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/F3/41/1330/564477/] * Smashing the Stack for Fun and Profit, Phrack Magazine, November 1996 [https://phrack.org/issues/49/14] * From subversives to CEOs: How radical hackers built today’s cybersecurity industry [https://readme.synack.com/from-subversives-to-ceos-how-radical-hackers-built-todays-cybersecurity-industry]

How the World Got Owned Episode 1: The 1980s

In this special documentary episode, Patrick Gray and Amberleigh Jack take a historical dive into hacking in the 1980s. Through the words of those that were there, they discuss life on the ARPANET, the 414s hacking group, the Morris Worm, the vibe inside the NSA and a parallel hunt for German hackers happening at a similar time to Cliff Stoll’s famous Cuckoo’s Egg story. This podcast features the memories of: * Jon Callas, former principal software engineer at Digital Equipment Corporation * Mark Rasch, Morris Worm prosecutor * Timothy Winslow, former 414 hacker * Greg Chartrand, author of Cracking the Cuckoos Egg and * Tony Sager, former NSA How the World Got Owned is produced in partnership with SentinelOne. SHOW NOTES * 1988 Federal sentencing guidelines manual [https://www.ussc.gov/guidelines/archive/1988-federal-sentencing-guidelines-manual-0] * Computer Intruder is put on probation and fined $10,000 | The New York Times [https://www.nytimes.com/1990/05/05/us/computer-intruder-is-put-on-probation-and-fined-10000.html] * Computer Intruder is found guilty | The New York Times [https://www.nytimes.com/1990/01/23/us/computer-intruder-is-found-guilty.html] * United States of America, Appellee, v. Robert Tappan Morris, Defendant-appellant, 928 F.2d 504 (2d Cir. 1991) [https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/F2/928/504/452673/] * The Cuckoo’s Egg: Tracking a Spy Through the Maze of Computer Espionage | Clifford Stoll [https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18154.The_Cuckoo_s_Egg] * Cracking the Cuckoo’s Egg: The Untold Story of tracking and finding Karl Koch aka Hagbard of the Chaos Computer Club | Greg Chartrand [https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/214876781-cracking-the-cuckoo-s-egg] * Computer Buffs Tapped NASA Files | The New York Times [https://www.nytimes.com/1987/09/16/world/computer-buffs-tapped-nasa-files.html] * Young Computer Bandits Byte off More than They Could Chew | The Washington Post [https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1983/08/30/young-computer-bandits-byte-off-more-than-they-could-chew/f407e5df-6eaf-4f9b-8b38-04304960d2d9/] * ‘Hacker’ is used by Mainstream Media, September 5, 1983 | EDN [https://www.edn.com/hacker-is-used-by-mainstream-media-september-5-1983/] * Neal Patrick to testify before congressional committee [https://www.upi.com/Archives/1983/09/19/A-17-year-old-boy-who-was-one-of-the-Milwaukee-area/4664432792000/] * Wargames official trailer, 1983 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQUsLAAZuhU] * CBS News Segment on Robert Morris Computer Hacker [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TsT46z9EfI] * The Fall of the Berlin Wall | Sky News [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpubkTiD6c4] * I Hacked a Nuclear Facility in the 1980’s. You’re Welcome | CNN [https://edition.cnn.com/2015/03/11/tech/computer-hacker-essay-414s]