Rooted & Rehumanizing

041: What Do You Do When You Want to Quit?

What happens when the urge to quit isn’t actually about quitting? In this deeply honest and vulnerable conversation, Meg and Jillian explore the emotional tension between overwhelm, self-protection, burnout, and alignment. From marriage and motherhood to parenting, work, and emotional safety, they unpack what it feels like when your nervous system wants out before your heart actually does. Meg shares how her instinct is often to pull away, sever ties, or “bulldoze” through discomfort in order to protect herself, while Jillian reflects on her tendency to push through and overstay in situations before learning to slow down and trust herself. Together, they explore the importance of creating space before making major decisions. Not reacting from urgency, emotion, or perfectionism, but allowing feelings to rise, fall, and settle before determining what is actually true. The conversation moves through emotional regulation, parenting through big feelings, self-trust, codependency, overcommitment, and the pressure many people feel to “do things the right way.” Rather than offering perfect answers, this episode becomes a reminder that being human is nuanced, messy, emotional, and deeply personal. WHAT WE EXPLORE IN THIS EPISODE: * The emotional urge to quit relationships, jobs, parenting responsibilities, or commitments * The difference between reacting from overwhelm versus grounded alignment * Fight, flight, bulldozing, and self-protection responses * Why slowing down can help create clarity in difficult decisions * The importance of “simmering” before making major choices * How perfectionism contributes to burnout and emotional collapse * The connection between self-trust and emotional safety * Parenting through big feelings while still holding boundaries * How people pleasing can disconnect us from our actual needs * Learning to express truth without explosiveness * The pressure of overcommitment and “badge of burnout” culture * Using nature, movement, journaling, and reflection to process emotions * The reminder that there is not always one universally “right” answer We Would Love to Connect With You Your reflections, questions, and lived experiences mean so much to us. If this episode resonates, please share it, leave a review, or reach out. Connect with Jillian Website: https://trellissuite.com/ [https://trellissuite.com/] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jillian-pezet-trellis/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/jillian-pezet-trellis/] Email: jillianp@trellissuite.com [jillianp@trellissuite.com] See what Jillian is building!! www.linkedin.com/company/trellissuite Connect with Meg Website: www.profoundwellness.net [http://www.profoundwellness.net] Email: meg@profoundwellness.net [meg@profoundwellness.net] Facebook: facebook.com/megan.fikse [http://facebook.com/megan.fikse] Instagram: instagram.com/m.laidlaw [http://instagram.com/m.laidlaw] Meg’s Offerings * Heart Math BioFeedback Device: * https://www.heartmath.com/coachmeg [https://www.heartmath.com/coachmeg] * Self Mastery Program: * https://www.profoundwellness.net/self-mastery-program [https://www.profoundwellness.net/self-mastery-program] * Bold Beautiful Life Membership: * https://www.profoundwellness.net/membership [https://www.profoundwellness.net/membership] * HEART! Focused-Business: https://l.bttr.to/YqpAf [https://l.bttr.to/YqpAf] Mentioned in this episode: Outro Dyn AD

040: From Knowing to Embodying

What happens after the breakthrough? In part two of this live coaching series, Jillian explores the space that comes after awareness. The part that is often overlooked. Moving from understanding something intellectually to actually living it. After uncovering the belief patterns holding her back in the previous episode, Jillian notices her tendency to stop at the “aha.” To understand the shift, but not embody it. Meg guides her into the body. Into sensation, presence, and awareness. Using a simple but powerful practice, they explore how tension lives in the body, how safety can be accessed, and how capacity is built not by fixing, but by feeling. This conversation reframes what it means to “do the work.” Not as something rigid or structured, but as something fluid, intuitive, and available in every moment. It’s a shift from performance to presence. From checking the box to actually being in it. WHAT WE EXPLORE IN THIS EPISODE: * The gap between intellectual understanding and embodiment * Why awareness alone doesn’t create change * How tension and stress show up physically in the body * A simple somatic practice to build capacity for discomfort * The concept of pendulation and nervous system regulation * Where different parts of identity live in the body * Why slowing down feels like a “waste of time” and how to reframe it * Breaking the habit of turning healing into a checklist * Using everyday moments as opportunities for presence * The importance of variety and flexibility in personal practices * Self-mothering and learning to ask: what do I need right now? We Would Love to Connect With You Your reflections, questions, and lived experiences mean so much to us. If this episode resonates, please share it, leave a review, or reach out. Connect with Jillian Website: https://trellissuite.com/ [https://trellissuite.com/] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jillian-pezet-trellis/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/jillian-pezet-trellis/] Email: jillianp@trellissuite.com [jillianp@trellissuite.com] See what Jillian is building!! www.linkedin.com/company/trellissuite Connect with Meg Website: www.profoundwellness.net [http://www.profoundwellness.net] Email: meg@profoundwellness.net [meg@profoundwellness.net] Facebook: facebook.com/megan.fikse [http://facebook.com/megan.fikse] Instagram: instagram.com/m.laidlaw [http://instagram.com/m.laidlaw] Meg’s Offerings * Heart Math BioFeedback Device: * https://www.heartmath.com/coachmeg [https://www.heartmath.com/coachmeg] * Self Mastery Program: * https://www.profoundwellness.net/self-mastery-program [https://www.profoundwellness.net/self-mastery-program] * Bold Beautiful Life Membership: * https://www.profoundwellness.net/membership [https://www.profoundwellness.net/membership] * HEART! Focused-Business: https://l.bttr.to/YqpAf [https://l.bttr.to/YqpAf] Mentioned in this episode: Outro Dyn AD

039: Control, Identity, and Becoming “Her”

What if the resistance you feel isn’t about the work… but about who you’re allowing yourself to be while doing it? In this episode, Meg coaches Jillian live in a raw and unfiltered conversation that uncovers the deeper layers behind control, anxiety, and identity. What begins as a discussion about trying to control outcomes quickly reveals something more foundational. A split between two versions of self. Jillian shares the tension between who she is in the world and who she feels she is at home. The bold, visionary leader versus the smaller, more contracted version seeking safety. Together, they unpack where these patterns come from, why they persist, and what it looks like to begin integrating them instead of choosing between them. This conversation moves beyond mindset and into embodiment. It explores what it really means to trust yourself, to feel safe being fully seen, and to step into a more complete version of who you already are. WHAT WE EXPLORE IN THIS EPISODE: * The hidden cost of trying to control outcomes instead of trusting the process * Why resistance often shows up around the very practices that help us most * The belief that success must come through grit, struggle, and sacrifice * The internal split between “who I am at work” and “who I am at home” * How safety, peace, and success can coexist instead of compete * The fear of being fully seen and how it shapes behavior and identity * Why contraction and expansion are both necessary parts of growth * The difference between forcing change and allowing integration * Reframing “hurting people” as inviting them into a higher version of themselves * What it means to truly embody “I am her” KEY TAKEAWAYS * You don’t have to choose between success and peace. They can exist together. * The parts of you you’ve separated are meant to be integrated, not managed. * Resistance is often a signal pointing directly to the belief that needs to be examined. * You are already resourced. The evidence is in the people who fully know and love you. * Growth doesn’t require force. It can happen through awareness, observation, and gentleness. * You are not becoming someone new. You are allowing more of who you already are. We Would Love to Connect With You Your reflections, questions, and lived experiences mean so much to us. If this episode resonates, please share it, leave a review, or reach out. Connect with Jillian Website: https://trellissuite.com/ [https://trellissuite.com/] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jillian-pezet-trellis/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/jillian-pezet-trellis/] Email: jillianp@trellissuite.com [jillianp@trellissuite.com] See what Jillian is building!! www.linkedin.com/company/trellissuite Connect with Meg Website: www.profoundwellness.net [http://www.profoundwellness.net] Email: meg@profoundwellness.net [meg@profoundwellness.net] Facebook: facebook.com/megan.fikse [http://facebook.com/megan.fikse] Instagram: instagram.com/m.laidlaw [http://instagram.com/m.laidlaw] Meg’s Offerings * Heart Math BioFeedback Device: * https://www.heartmath.com/coachmeg [https://www.heartmath.com/coachmeg] * Self Mastery Program: * https://www.profoundwellness.net/self-mastery-program [https://www.profoundwellness.net/self-mastery-program] * Bold Beautiful Life Membership: * https://www.profoundwellness.net/membership [https://www.profoundwellness.net/membership] * Bold Beautiful Business Mastermind: * https://www.profoundwellness.net/mastermind [https://www.profoundwellness.net/mastermind] Mentioned in this episode: Outro Dyn AD

038: The Power of Belief. Unleashing Limitless Potential with Marsha Vanwynsberghe & Sue Ruhe

This episode is a little different. This conversation originally took place on Own Your Choices Own Your Life with Marsha Vanwynsberghe and our joint podcast editor, Sue Ruh. It felt too important not to share here, as well. There was something about the depth, the honesty, and the way this conversation unfolded that felt so aligned with what we’re creating inside Rooted & Rehumanizing. It felt real. It felt human. So we’re sharing it with you. No re-recording. No over-editing. Just a conversation that mattered enough to be heard again. We talk about the part of growth that doesn’t get as much attention. The space after awareness. The moment where you see it, understand it, maybe can even explain it… but you’re not fully living it yet. This is where so many people get stuck. We explore the gap between knowing and embodying. What it actually means to move something from your mind into your life. This isn’t about more tools or more information. It’s about presence. Being with what’s actually happening instead of trying to rush past it. There’s a shift in this conversation from doing the work to being in it. From trying to fix, to learning how to feel. And that changes everything. WHAT WE EXPLORE IN THIS EPISODE * The moment where you realize knowing isn’t the same as living * Why awareness doesn’t change anything unless your body is involved * How patterns keep running even when you “know better” * The shift from trying to fix yourself to actually being with yourself * Moving out of performance and into something real, present, and lived WHY WE SHARED THIS EPISODE HERE There was something about this conversation that felt different. It wasn’t just insightful. It was real. The kind of conversation where you can feel what’s happening underneath it, not just hear what’s being said. And instead of trying to recreate that, we wanted to bring it here exactly as it happened. WE WOULD LOVE TO CONNECT WITH YOU Your reflections, questions, and lived experiences mean so much to us. If this episode resonates, please share it, leave a review, or reach out. Connect with Jillian Website: https://trellissuite.com/ [https://trellissuite.com/] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jillian-pezet-trellis/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/jillian-pezet-trellis/] Email: jillianp@trellissuite.com [jillianp@trellissuite.com] See what Jillian is building!! www.linkedin.com/company/trellissuite [http://www.linkedin.com/company/trellissuite] Connect with Meg Website: www.profoundwellness.net [http://www.profoundwellness.net] Email: meg@profoundwellness.net [meg@profoundwellness.net] Facebook: facebook.com/megan.fikse [http://facebook.com/megan.fikse] Instagram: instagram.com/m.laidlaw [http://instagram.com/m.laidlaw] Meg’s Offerings * Heart Math BioFeedback Device: * https://www.heartmath.com/coachmeg [https://www.heartmath.com/coachmeg] * Self Mastery Program: * https://www.profoundwellness.net/self-mastery-program [https://www.profoundwellness.net/self-mastery-program] * Bold Beautiful Life Membership: * https://www.profoundwellness.net/membership [https://www.profoundwellness.net/membership] * HEART! Focused-Business: https://l.bttr.to/YqpAf [https://l.bttr.to/YqpAf] Connect with Marsha Vanwynsberghe: An NLP Storytelling Trainer, OUTSPOKEN NLP Coaching Certification, Author, Speaker, and Podcaster Website: www.marshavanw.com [http://www.marshavanw.com] Connect on IG, click HERE [https://www.instagram.com/marshavanw] Subscribe on YouTube, click HERE [https://youtube.com/@marshavanw?si=TF7_li0ciJRBuycH] Offerings: UNBOTHERED Mastermind: https://www.marshavanw.com/offers/w8WVE3Pa [https://www.marshavanw.com/offers/w8WVE3Pa] Write Your Damn Book Program: https://www.marshavanw.com/writenow [https://www.marshavanw.com/writenow] Tickets for Heart-Wired CEO Live https://www.heart-wiredceo.com/live [https://www.heart-wiredceo.com/live] Unbothered Private Podcast https://www.marshavanw.com/unbotheredmindpodcast [https://www.marshavanw.com/unbotheredmindpodcast] Unbothered Entrepreneur Masterclass (for the Podcast Listeners): https://www.marshavanw.com/unbothered-entrepreneur-masterclass-podcast [https://www.marshavanw.com/unbothered-entrepreneur-masterclass-podcast] Mentioned in this episode: Outro Dyn AD

037: Community Over Competition

Jillian opens this conversation with a powerful shift in perspective as she prepares to launch Trellis. Faced with the reality that her patents will not be finalized before launch, she initially felt pressure to protect her ideas. But through reflection, she realized that her deeper mission is not ownership. It is impact. This realization reframes everything. If the goal is to make the world better, then more people carrying similar ideas forward is not a threat. It is a multiplier. Meg expands on this by exploring the difference between competition and collaboration. Rather than viewing others as threats, she invites listeners to see them as mirrors, mentors, and potential partners. Together, they discuss how comparison and competition often stem from scarcity thinking, while collaboration is rooted in abundance. Jillian shares how this shows up in her own experience, noticing moments where she felt protective over her ideas or voice, especially when seeing others speak on similar topics. Over time, she has learned to interpret that not as a loss of edge, but as validation and alignment. Meg brings the conversation into everyday life, reflecting on comparison in motherhood and social media. She shares how easy it is to feel “less than” when observing others, and how that can be reframed into appreciation rather than self-judgment. Together, they highlight that comparison is often a signal. It points to something within us that we either value, desire, or feel disconnected from. When approached with curiosity instead of judgment, it becomes a pathway for growth. The episode closes with a grounded and practical takeaway. Instead of asking who you are competing with, ask who you could learn from, collaborate with, or simply celebrate. Community is not something that happens automatically. It is something we choose to participate in. WHAT THIS EPISODE EXPLORES • Community versus competition in business and life • Letting go of scarcity thinking and embracing abundance • Protecting ideas versus spreading impact • Comparison as a signal rather than a problem • Social media and its influence on self-perception • Collaboration as a force multiplier • Learning from others instead of competing with them • Building intentional community in everyday life KEY TAKEAWAYS • Collaboration expands impact faster than competition. • Comparison often reveals what we value or desire. • Scarcity thinking creates isolation, while abundance creates connection. • Other people’s success can be a mirror, not a threat. • Community requires intentional participation, not passive observation. We Would Love to Connect With You Your reflections, questions, and lived experiences mean so much to us. If this episode resonates, please share it, leave a review, or reach out. Connect with Jillian Website: https://trellissuite.com/ [https://trellissuite.com/] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jillian-pezet-trellis/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/jillian-pezet-trellis/] Email: jillianp@trellissuite.com [jillianp@trellissuite.com] See what Jillian is building!! www.linkedin.com/company/trellissuite Connect with Meg Website: www.profoundwellness.net [http://www.profoundwellness.net] Email: meg@profoundwellness.net [meg@profoundwellness.net] Facebook: facebook.com/megan.fikse [http://facebook.com/megan.fikse] Instagram: instagram.com/m.laidlaw [http://instagram.com/m.laidlaw] Meg’s Offerings * Heart Math BioFeedback Device: * https://www.heartmath.com/coachmeg [https://www.heartmath.com/coachmeg] * Self Mastery Program: * https://www.profoundwellness.net/self-mastery-program [https://www.profoundwellness.net/self-mastery-program] * Bold Beautiful Life Membership: * https://www.profoundwellness.net/membership [https://www.profoundwellness.net/membership] * Bold Beautiful Business Mastermind: * https://www.profoundwellness.net/mastermind [https://www.profoundwellness.net/mastermind] Mentioned in this episode: Outro Dyn AD