The Journey (with Leo Young)

Startup Failure, Bankruptcy Recovery, and Scaling to 140 Employees (w/ Mike Chaput) [TJP Ep38]

Mike Chaput bought a company at 24 with no management experience, no sales background, and no idea how to read a P&L. Three months after taking over, the dot-com bubble wiped out his entire customer base. He kept the company alive for four and a half years before it finally went bankrupt. Then he started over. Today, Insight has 140 employees, $35 million in revenue, 10 Inc. 5000 appearances, and 400+ clients across California and Hawaii. In this episode, Mike breaks down what he learned the hard way about leadership, performance management, and building a company culture that actually works. You'll hear: * How buying a failing company at 24 became his MBA in real life * Why the dot-com crash was just one of many near-death moments for the business * The neuroscience framework he uses to understand leadership and human behavior * How he thinks about managing underperformers without destroying team culture * Why great leadership is the difference between a mediocre organization and one where everyone reaches their potential * What he's building now with his podcast and the book he's writing on leadership principles Mike is the kind of operator who reads obsessively, shares what he's learned, and genuinely believes better leaders make better companies and better lives. If you've ever had to rebuild something from scratch, or you're leading a team and want a real conversation about what that actually takes, this episode is worth your time. // Timestamps // 00:00 Introduction to Mike Chaput 02:00 Buying a company at 24 with no experience 12:00 The first skill every founder must develop: sales 16:00 When PCS Networks collapsed, the reality of bankruptcy at 28 20:00 How Insight was born from the ashes 24:00 Why the bankruptcy system exists to reward risk-takers 32:00 Scaling from survival mode to a $35M company 36:00 Vision, values, and what most CEOs get wrong 42:00 Predator vs. prey mindset and high-performance teams 50:00 The First Principles podcast and what Mike is building next 01:01 What Mike wants to change about how the world leads 🤝 Connect with Mike Chaput Website:  https://www.endsight.net/  https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelchaput/ https://www.instagram.com/thechaputperspective/  👋 Connect with Leo https://www.linkedin.com/in/leo-young https://www.instagram.com/leoyoungrealestate Invest with us: https://tidycal.com/leoyoungrealestate/investor-alignment-call 👍 Support the Show If this episode brought you value, please follow, rate, and share the podcast so more people can discover conversations like this. ⚠️ Disclaimer This podcast is for educational purposes only. It is not financial, legal, or tax advice. All investments carry risk. Always consult licensed professionals before making investment decisions. #Entrepreneurship #Founder #Bankruptcy #Leadership #BusinessGrowth #StartupLife #SalesStrategy #CompanyCulture #TheJourneyPodcast #LeoYoung #MikeChaput #FirstPrinciples #ScalingABusiness #MindsetMatters

How to Start a Business with No Money and Scale (w/ Chris Shurian) [TJP Ep 37]

Chris Shurian built a $15M business starting with $5,000 and a truck he traded his uncle for. He didn't follow a blueprint or raise outside capital. He learned construction by doing it, figured out management after getting injured, and expanded into restaurants and hospitality by studying Walt Disney. In this episode, Chris walks through how he scaled a construction company, survived the 2008 recession, and built systems that let him run everything without being on-site every day. He also breaks down the "Tahiti Report," a simple KPI dashboard that tells you if your business is winning from anywhere in the world. You'll hear: * How a back injury forced him to delegate and accidentally unlocked growth * The Walt Disney philosophy behind his restaurant concepts * Why fractional executives changed how he ran his businesses * How Ironman training kept him sane during the financial crisis * The $12M mistake he made hiring the wrong contractor, while being a contractor himself * What finally made him shift from pushing people to lifting them up Chris now mentors founders through his Founders Exchange mastermind and podcast, Bootstraps and Battle Scars. If you're building something and want a conversation grounded in real experience, this one's worth your time. // Timestamps // 00:00 Intro 01:15 The most significant lesson from this past year: a restaurant failure 03:00 KPIs, gut instincts, and trusting the warning signs 05:37 Bootstrapping the construction company with $5,000 and a traded truck 08:25 From flounder to focus: finding a niche in home remodeling 10:00 The back injury that forced delegation and unlocked growth 12:00 Managing employee culture as the company scaled 14:00 The "Tahiti Report": building a KPI system for every business 18:47 How to identify the right metrics for any industry 22:36 Learning to upskill: mentors, books, and fractional executives 26:28 The value of constructive disagreement and avoiding yes-men 27:22 How Chris fell into the restaurant business 29:00 The Walt Disney philosophy: engineering unforgettable experiences 31:31 Balancing entrepreneurship with family, fitness, and Ironman training 33:45 How Ironman training saved his mindset during the 2008 recession 35:32 Finding mentors and the Founders Exchange mastermind 38:48 Rapid fire: the $12M mistake from hiring the wrong contractor 40:21 The leadership 180: from pushing people to lifting them up 41:52 What Chris is optimizing for now: coaching, writing, and giving back 43:40 Where to find Chris: Bootstraps and Battle Scars 44:58 Closing thoughts 👇 Let's Connect (from Chris): If you are building a business and want to learn from someone who has been in the trenches, reach out directly. I am happy to connect. 📩 Send me a DM on LinkedIn or visit http://bootstrapsandbattlescars.com 🤝 CONNECT WITH CHRIS WEBSITE:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisshurian/ 👋 CONNECT WITH LEO 1. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/leo-young/ 2. Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leoyoungrealestate/ 3. Want to invest with us? https://tidycal.com/leoyoungrealestate/investor-alignment-call ⚠️ Disclaimer: This content is for educational and informational purposes only. It is not financial, legal, or tax advice and should not be relied upon as such. All investments carry risk, and past performance is not indicative of future results. Any mention of investment opportunities is not an offer to sell or a solicitation to buy securities. Offers, if any, will be made only through official offering documents and only to qualified, accredited investors in jurisdictions where permitted by law. Consult your own financial, legal, and tax advisors before making investment decisions. #Entrepreneurship #Bootstrapping #SmallBusiness #WealthBuilding #Leadership #BusinessGrowth #Ironman #MindsetMatters #FoundersExchange #RestaurantBusiness #ConstructionBusiness #Mentorship

Personal Growth, Executive Coaching, and Global Brand Building (w/ Robert White) [TJP Ep36]

In this episode of The Journey, Leo sits down with Robert White, leadership expert, executive mentor, and founder of two global leadership development companies that have trained more than 1.4 million people across four continents. Robert shares the story behind building massive training organizations, living and working across Asia for over two decades, and why he ultimately chose to focus on mentoring individuals instead of scaling organizations. He explains the belief systems that quietly shape our behavior, the hidden mindset that holds many high achievers back, and why personal responsibility is the foundation of real leadership. The conversation explores entrepreneurship, human potential, cultural awareness in global business, and the principles Robert discovered after studying thousands of high performers. If you are a founder, leader, or entrepreneur looking to grow both your business and yourself, this episode offers timeless insights from someone who has spent 50 years studying human transformation. Key topics covered * The belief that silently limits high achievers: “I am not enough” * How Robert built leadership programs that trained 1.4 million people * Lessons from building companies across the United States and Asia * Why awareness is the most important leadership skill * The difference between guilt and shame across cultures * Growing a company almost entirely through referrals * The mindset shift that helped Robert triple his income after personal growth training * Why entrepreneurs must learn quickly from what works and what fails * The eight principles that separate high performers from everyone else * How commitment drives success even when everything else breaks down Timestamps 00:00 Introduction to Robert White 00:54 The belief that drives many high achievers 04:58 Why we search for evidence to confirm our beliefs 07:44 Robert’s early business and turning point at age 27 10:37 Discovering personal development training 12:41 Rapid business growth after mindset changes 13:52 Founding leadership training companies 15:15 Why learning from reality matters in business 17:10 Moving to Japan and building a global company 20:23 Early struggles starting a business abroad 23:04 Growing a company through referrals 25:31 Culture, belief, and commitment inside organizations 27:57 The eight principles behind high performers 30:30 Focus and disciplined personal change 32:52 Cultural differences in global leadership 35:15 Why even coaches need coaches 38:39 Lessons from living abroad and returning home 40:13 How to connect with Robert 🤝 Connect with Robert White Website: https://extraordinarypeople.com [https://extraordinarypeople.com/] 👋 Connect with Leo LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/leo-young [https://www.linkedin.com/in/leo-young] Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leoyoungrealestate [https://www.instagram.com/leoyoungrealestate] Invest with us: https://tidycal.com/leoyoungrealestate/investor-alignment-call [https://tidycal.com/leoyoungrealestate/investor-alignment-call] 👍 Support the Show If this episode brought you value, please follow, rate, and share the podcast so more people can discover conversations like this. ⚠️ Disclaimer This podcast is for educational purposes only. It is not financial, legal, or tax advice. Always consult licensed professionals before making investment or business decisions. #LeadershipDevelopment #EntrepreneurMindset #PersonalGrowth #ExecutiveLeadership #BusinessStrategy #FounderJourney #MindsetMatters #TheJourneyPodcast #LeoYoung

Building a Real Estate Portfolio from Scratch: 30 Years in Flipping, Development, and Multifamily (w/ Adriana Barrerro) [TJP Ep35]

In this episode of The Journey, Leo sits down with Adriana Barrero, co founder of Elan Equity and a seasoned real estate operator with nearly three decades of experience across residential, development, multifamily, and commercial real estate. Adriana shares her journey from immigrating to the United States with 300 dollars to building and redeveloping properties in Austin’s urban core. She explains how resilience, pivoting through adversity, and long term thinking shaped her approach to investing. The conversation dives into underwriting discipline, sponsor vetting, conservative projections, and why values matter more than marketing decks. If you are an investor who cares about durability, integrity, and protecting capital through market cycles, this episode offers hard earned perspective from someone who has taken deals full cycle. Key topics covered * Why pivoting is the most important skill in business and investing * From immigrant beginnings to full cycle multifamily operator * Lessons learned from flipping, wholesaling, and ground up development * Why multifamily fits the “basic necessity” investing thesis * Red flags in underwriting and overly optimistic projections * How cap rates really impact long term outcomes * The importance of sponsor background checks and due diligence * Why “conservative” is often misused in investment decks * Values, honesty, and protecting investor capital * Thinking in probabilities instead of promises Timestamps 00:01 Adriana’s background and introduction 00:44 Biggest lesson learned this year 03:51 Immigrating with 300 dollars and building from scratch 06:11 Moving internationally and discovering real estate 08:14 First unexpected real estate win 10:40 Transition from residential to multifamily 14:54 Hard lessons from development projects 18:00 Pivoting and problem solving in real estate 20:26 Entering commercial real estate 22:17 How Adriana underwrites deals 28:11 Vetting sponsors and background checks 30:51 Most important trait in an operator 32:21 Why “conservative” is often misused 34:30 Proving doubters wrong 🤝 Connect with Adriana Barrero LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriana-barrero/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriana-barrero/]  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/adriana.barrero.193648 [https://www.facebook.com/adriana.barrero.193648]  Website: http://elanequity.com [http://elanequity.com] Email: Adriana@ElanEquity.com [Adriana@ElanEquity.com]  Connect with Leo LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/leo-young [https://www.linkedin.com/in/leo-young] Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leoyoungrealestate [https://www.instagram.com/leoyoungrealestate] Invest with us: https://tidycal.com/leoyoungrealestate/investor-alignment-call [https://tidycal.com/leoyoungrealestate/investor-alignment-call] Support the show If this episode brought you value, follow, rate, and share the podcast so more investors can discover conversations like this. Disclaimer This podcast is for educational purposes only. It is not financial, legal, or tax advice. Always consult licensed professionals before making investment decisions.

How Business Owners Can Hire Better: Behavioral Data, Role Fit, & the Cost of Bad Hires (w/ Tiffany Slowinski) [TJP Ep34]

In this episode of The Journey, Leo sits down with Tiffany Slawinski, founder of Team Spark Advisors, Culture Index expert, and former VP of Sales who has overseen more than 200 markets. With a background in psychology and years of leadership experience, Tiffany helps CEOs and founders put the right people in the right seats so their businesses can grow without unnecessary friction. Tiffany shares why most business problems are actually people problems, how behavioral data changes hiring decisions, and the hidden cost of keeping the wrong person in the wrong role. The conversation dives into leadership blind spots, cultural fit, hiring mistakes, and why doubling down on strengths creates stronger companies than obsessing over weaknesses. If you are a founder, CEO, or business owner struggling with hiring, turnover, or team alignment, this episode will change how you think about building your organization. Key topics covered * Why people, not marketing or strategy, are usually the growth bottleneck * How Culture Index measures work related behavioral traits * The real cost of a bad hire and employee turnover * Why likability in interviews can be misleading * Hiring for the dominant function of a role * The difference between autonomy, social ability, and detail orientation * When to adapt a role versus when to replace the person * Why stress and misalignment create long term business risk * How founders can double down on strengths instead of fixing weaknesses * Building teams that allow visionaries to stay visionary Timestamps 00:00 Why most business problems are people problems 01:09 Tiffany’s biggest lesson this year 03:02 What Culture Index is and how it works 04:15 Tiffany’s journey from psychology to business leadership 07:58 Building the right role before hiring 12:48 Why interviews can be misleading 15:03 Can personality traits change over time 17:08 Right person, right seat philosophy 19:35 Why business owners struggle with hiring 23:06 Common hiring mistakes founders make 25:38 Is this only for large companies 30:30 Tiffany’s turning point with Culture Index 32:40 Measuring ROI of hiring correctly 35:16 The hidden cost of stress and misalignment 36:53 Hard but necessary leadership questions 38:28 Playing to strengths versus fixing weaknesses 41:07 How to connect with Tiffany Connect with Tiffany Slowinski LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tiffanyslowinski/ Connect with Leo LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/leo-young [https://www.linkedin.com/in/leo-young] Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leoyoungrealestate [https://www.instagram.com/leoyoungrealestate] Invest with us: https://tidycal.com/leoyoungrealestate/investor-alignment-call [https://tidycal.com/leoyoungrealestate/investor-alignment-call] Support the show If this episode brought you value, follow, rate, and share the podcast so more founders can discover these conversations. Disclaimer This podcast is for educational purposes only. It is not financial, legal, or tax advice. Always consult licensed professionals before making business decisions