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This episode features a special, one-of-a-kind introduction that Chris recorded of yours truly. :) Sponsors: MUD\WTR [https://mudwtr.com/tim] energy-boosting coffee alternative—without the jitters: https://MUDWTR.com/Tim [https://mudwtr.com/tim] (between 15% and 43% off) Helix Sleep [https://helixsleep.com/tim] premium mattresses: https://HelixSleep.com/Tim [https://helixsleep.com/tim] (Between 20% and 27% off all mattress orders and two free pillows) AG1 [https://drinkag1.com/tim] all-in-one nutritional supplement: https://DrinkAG1.com/Tim [https://drinkag1.com/tim] (1-year supply of Vitamin D (and 5 free AG1 travel packs) with your first subscription purchase.) * For show notes and past guests on The Tim Ferriss Show [https://tim.blog/podcast], please visit tim.blog/podcast [https://tim.blog/podcast/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=podcast-description]. 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Follow Tim: Twitter: twitter.com/tferriss [https://twitter.com/tferriss]  Instagram: instagram.com/timferriss [https://instagram.com/timferriss/] YouTube: youtube.com/timferriss [https://www.youtube.com/timferriss] Facebook: facebook.com/timferriss [https://www.facebook.com/TimFerriss/]  LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/timferriss [http://linkedin.com/in/timferriss] Past guests on The Tim Ferriss Show [http://tim.blog/podcast] include Jerry Seinfeld [https://tim.blog/2020/12/08/jerry-seinfeld/], Hugh Jackman [https://tim.blog/2020/06/26/hugh-jackman/], Dr. Jane Goodall [https://tim.blog/2020/04/16/jane-goodall/], LeBron James [https://tim.blog/2018/11/27/lebron-james-mike-mancias/], Kevin Hart [https://tim.blog/2020/05/20/kevin-hart/], Doris Kearns Goodwin [https://tim.blog/2018/09/07/doris-kearns-goodwin-leadership/], Jamie Foxx [https://tim.blog/2015/12/06/jamie-foxx/], Matthew McConaughey [https://tim.blog/2020/10/19/matthew-mcconaughey/], Esther Perel [https://tim.blog/2017/05/21/esther-perel/], Elizabeth Gilbert [https://tim.blog/2020/05/08/elizabeth-gilbert/], Terry Crews [https://tim.blog/2017/12/20/terry-crews-how-to-have-do-and-be-all-you-want/], Sia [https://tim.blog/2020/08/12/sia/], Yuval Noah Harari [https://tim.blog/2020/10/27/yuval-noah-harari/], Malcolm Gladwell [https://tim.blog/2016/06/21/malcolm-gladwell/], Madeleine Albright [https://tim.blog/2020/05/27/secretary-madeleine-albright/], Cheryl Strayed [https://tim.blog/2017/03/30/cheryl-strayed/], Jim Collins [https://tim.blog/2019/02/18/jim-collins/], Mary Karr, [https://tim.blog/2020/11/11/mary-karr/] Maria Popova [https://tim.blog/2014/10/21/brain-pickings/], Sam Harris [https://tim.blog/2020/05/15/sam-harris-2/], Michael Phelps [https://tim.blog/2021/01/21/michael-phelps-grant-hackett/], Bob Iger [https://tim.blog/2020/01/16/bob-iger/], Edward Norton [https://tim.blog/2019/10/31/edward-norton-motherless-brooklyn/], Arnold Schwarzenegger [https://tim.blog/2015/02/02/arnold-schwarzenegger/], Neil Strauss [https://tim.blog/2014/06/24/neil-strauss/], Ken Burns [https://tim.blog/2019/09/12/ken-burns/], Maria Sharapova [https://tim.blog/2017/08/26/maria-sharapova/], Marc Andreessen [https://tim.blog/2016/05/29/marc-andreessen/], Neil Gaiman [https://tim.blog/2019/03/28/neil-gaiman/], Neil de Grasse Tyson [https://tim.blog/2019/10/03/neil-degrasse-tyson/], Jocko Willink [https://tim.blog/2016/09/21/jocko-willink-on-discipline-leadership-and-overcoming-doubt/], Daniel Ek [https://tim.blog/2020/12/03/daniel-ek/], Kelly Slater [https://tim.blog/2020/09/08/kelly-slater/], Dr. Peter Attia [https://tim.blog/2019/11/27/peter-attia-fasting-metformin-longevity/], Seth Godin [https://tim.blog/2016/02/10/seth-godin/], Howard Marks [https://tim.blog/2018/09/25/howard-marks/], Dr. Brené Brown [https://tim.blog/2020/02/06/brene-brown-striving-self-acceptance-saving-marriages/], Eric Schmidt [https://tim.blog/2019/04/09/eric-schmidt/], Michael Lewis [https://tim.blog/2020/05/01/michael-lewis/], Joe Gebbia [https://tim.blog/2018/03/08/joe-gebbia-co-founder-of-airbnb/], Michael Pollan [https://tim.blog/2018/05/06/michael-pollan-how-to-change-your-mind/], Dr. Jordan Peterson [https://tim.blog/2021/03/01/jordan-peterson/], Vince Vaughn [https://tim.blog/2017/05/31/vince-vaughn/], Brian Koppelman [https://tim.blog/2020/04/23/brian-koppelman/], Ramit Sethi [https://tim.blog/2019/05/07/ramit-sethi/], Dax Shepard [https://tim.blog/2020/11/18/dax-shepard/], Tony Robbins [https://tim.blog/2014/10/15/money-master-the-game/], Jim Dethmer [https://tim.blog/2020/05/18/jim-dethmer/], Dan Harris [https://tim.blog/2020/11/19/dan-harris/], Ray Dalio [https://tim.blog/2017/09/13/ray-dalio/], Naval Ravikant [https://tim.blog/2015/08/18/the-evolutionary-angel-naval-ravikant/], Vitalik Buterin [https://tim.blog/2021/03/08/vitalik-buterin-naval-ravikant/], Elizabeth Lesser [https://tim.blog/2021/03/16/elizabeth-lesser/], Amanda Palmer [https://tim.blog/2019/04/18/amanda-palmer-2/], Katie Haun [https://tim.blog/2021/02/18/katie-haun/], Sir Richard Branson [https://tim.blog/2017/10/09/richard-branson/], Chuck Palahniuk [https://tim.blog/2020/09/02/chuck-palahniuk/], Arianna Huffington [https://tim.blog/2017/10/18/arianna-huffington/], Reid Hoffman [https://tim.blog/2015/08/31/the-oracle-of-silicon-valley-reid-hoffman-plus-michael-mccullough/], Bill Burr [https://tim.blog/2017/09/17/bill-burr/], Whitney Cummings [https://tim.blog/2015/06/26/whitney-cummings/], Rick Rubin [https://tim.blog/2015/05/15/rick-rubin/], Dr. Vivek Murthy [https://tim.blog/2020/03/26/vivek-murthy/], Darren Aronofsky [https://tim.blog/2017/09/09/darren-aronofsky/], Margaret Atwood [https://tim.blog/2022/02/22/margaret-atwood/], Mark Zuckerberg [https://tim.blog/2022/03/24/mark-zuckerberg/], Peter Thiel [https://tim.blog/2014/09/09/peter-thiel/], Dr. Gabor Maté [https://tim.blog/2018/02/20/gabor-mate/], Anne Lamott [https://tim.blog/2021/07/09/anne-lamott/], Sarah Silverman [https://tim.blog/2022/01/12/sarah-silverman/], Dr. Andrew Huberman [https://tim.blog/2021/07/06/andrew-huberman/], and many more. 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This episode is part of a new experiment called Meditation Monday. The teacher, Henry Shukman, has been on my podcast twice before. He is one of only a few dozen masters in the world authorized to teach Sanbo Zen, and now, he’ll be your teacher. In addition to my long-form interviews each week, every Monday I’ll bring you a short 10-minute or so meditation, which will help you for the rest of the week. Over this four-episode series, you’ll develop a Zen toolkit to help you find greater calm, peace, and effectiveness in your daily life. Henry’s app, The Way [https://thewayapp.com/tim], has changed my life since I first started using it. Unlike other meditation apps, where you’re overwhelmed with a thousand choices, The Way is a clear step-by-step training program guided entirely by Henry. Through a logical progression, you’ll develop real skills that stick with you. I’ve been using it daily, often twice a day, and it’s lowered my anxiety more than I thought possible. As a listener of my podcast, you can get 30 free sessions by visiting https://thewayapp.com/tim [https://thewayapp.com/tim] and downloading the app. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy [https://art19.com/privacy] and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info [https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info].

Aaron Stupple (@astupple [https://twitter.com/astupple]) is the author of The Sovereign Child: How a Forgotten Philosophy Can Liberate Kids and Their Parents [https://www.amazon.com/Sovereign-Child-Forgotten-Philosophy-Liberate-ebook/dp/B0DR36P28C/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20]. Naval Ravikant (@naval [http://twitter.com/naval]) is the co-founder of AngelList [https://www.angellist.com/]. He has invested in more than 100 companies [https://tim.blog/combo/#WEEK-OF-MAY-20], including many mega-successes, such as Twitter, Uber, Notion, Opendoor, Postmates, and Wish. Stick around after the end of our three-person conversation to listen to an exclusive bonus segment that Naval and Aaron recorded with extra practical tips, as well as incremental, day-to-day experiments you can test and apply. It’s super tactical, so you won’t want to miss it. It begins at 02:17:01. Sponsors: Sundays for Dogs [https://sundaysfordogs.com/tim] ultra-high-quality dog food: https://sundaysfordogs.com/tim [https://sundaysfordogs.com/tim] (save 50% on your first order) Seed's DS-01® Daily Synbiotic broad spectrum 24-strain probiotic + prebiotic [https://seed.com/tim]: https://Seed.com/Tim [https://seed.com/tim] (Use code 25TIM for 25% off your first month's supply) ShipStation [http://shipstation.com/tim] shipping software: https://www.shipstation.com/tim [https://www.shipstation.com/tim] (60-day free trial!) Timestamps: [00:00] Coming up in this episode [08:40] Who is Aaron, and what makes him qualified to dispense parenting advice? [13:44] Taking Children Seriously (TCS) and The Sovereign Child philosophies. [17:49] The David Deutsch influence on these tenets. [22:57] Supporting evidence and long-term case studies. [27:17] Ways Naval and Aaron have incorporated these philosophies into their own parenting. [31:13] How rules work while parenting for freedom-maximizing. [37:42] Why building knowledge beats coercion. [43:41] Non-negotiables. [46:35] Is this method of parenting only accessible to the educated elite? [50:05] Handling sibling conflict. [54:41] How do freedom-maximized kids adapt to an adulthood of endless societal rules? [58:55] When kids present counter-accountability. [01:00:41] One tool does not fix all. [01:03:52] Putting mistakes to good use. [01:08:00] Homeschooling, unschooling, and socialization challenges. [01:15:56] Building resilience. [01:20:23] Coping with food and drink cravings. [01:25:54] Avoiding the terminology of confirmation bias. [01:31:37] Sports. [01:35:09] Organically cultivating interests. [01:38:11] The pros and cons of traditional schooling. [01:47:24] Parental disagreements and avoiding hypocrisy. [01:57:18] Four categories of harm that come from rules. [02:00:38] The benefits of optional constraints. [02:05:32] Body Electric. [02:07:03] Things you should know before visiting the emergency room. [02:13:18] A hierarchy of knowledge and lessons learned from this conversation. [02:17:19] Tactics for addressing sibling (and spousal) conflict. [02:19:47] Tactics to foster learning. [02:22:54] The best baby (and adult) sitter. [02:26:07] Parenting into the teen years. [02:27:54] Tactics for forming good sleep habits. [02:31:20] Tactics for encouraging good eating habits. [02:37:34] Tactics for freedom-maximizing. [02:42:56] Tactics for minimizing screen and social media obsession. [02:55:29] Too cool for rules. [03:00:14] All information is subject to challenge. [03:03:10] Happiness and creativity cannot be forced. * For show notes and past guests on The Tim Ferriss Show [https://tim.blog/podcast], please visit tim.blog/podcast [https://tim.blog/podcast/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=podcast-description]. For deals from sponsors of The Tim Ferriss Show [https://tim.blog/podcast], please visit tim.blog/podcast-sponsors [https://tim.blog/podcast-sponsors] Sign up for Tim’s email newsletter (5-Bullet Friday) at tim.blog/friday [https://go.tim.blog/5-bullet-friday-1/]. For transcripts of episodes, go to tim.blog/transcripts [https://tim.blog/transcripts]. Discover Tim’s books: tim.blog/books [https://tim.blog/books]. Follow Tim: Twitter: twitter.com/tferriss [https://twitter.com/tferriss]  Instagram: instagram.com/timferriss [https://instagram.com/timferriss/] YouTube: youtube.com/timferriss [https://www.youtube.com/timferriss] Facebook: facebook.com/timferriss [https://www.facebook.com/TimFerriss/]  LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/timferriss [http://linkedin.com/in/timferriss] Past guests on The Tim Ferriss Show [http://tim.blog/podcast] include Jerry Seinfeld [https://tim.blog/2020/12/08/jerry-seinfeld/], Hugh Jackman [https://tim.blog/2020/06/26/hugh-jackman/], Dr. Jane Goodall [https://tim.blog/2020/04/16/jane-goodall/], LeBron James [https://tim.blog/2018/11/27/lebron-james-mike-mancias/], Kevin Hart [https://tim.blog/2020/05/20/kevin-hart/], Doris Kearns Goodwin [https://tim.blog/2018/09/07/doris-kearns-goodwin-leadership/], Jamie Foxx [https://tim.blog/2015/12/06/jamie-foxx/], Matthew McConaughey [https://tim.blog/2020/10/19/matthew-mcconaughey/], Esther Perel [https://tim.blog/2017/05/21/esther-perel/], Elizabeth Gilbert [https://tim.blog/2020/05/08/elizabeth-gilbert/], Terry Crews [https://tim.blog/2017/12/20/terry-crews-how-to-have-do-and-be-all-you-want/], Sia [https://tim.blog/2020/08/12/sia/], Yuval Noah Harari [https://tim.blog/2020/10/27/yuval-noah-harari/], Malcolm Gladwell [https://tim.blog/2016/06/21/malcolm-gladwell/], Madeleine Albright [https://tim.blog/2020/05/27/secretary-madeleine-albright/], Cheryl Strayed [https://tim.blog/2017/03/30/cheryl-strayed/], Jim Collins [https://tim.blog/2019/02/18/jim-collins/], Mary Karr, [https://tim.blog/2020/11/11/mary-karr/] Maria Popova [https://tim.blog/2014/10/21/brain-pickings/], Sam Harris [https://tim.blog/2020/05/15/sam-harris-2/], Michael Phelps [https://tim.blog/2021/01/21/michael-phelps-grant-hackett/], Bob Iger [https://tim.blog/2020/01/16/bob-iger/], Edward Norton [https://tim.blog/2019/10/31/edward-norton-motherless-brooklyn/], Arnold Schwarzenegger [https://tim.blog/2015/02/02/arnold-schwarzenegger/], Neil Strauss [https://tim.blog/2014/06/24/neil-strauss/], Ken Burns [https://tim.blog/2019/09/12/ken-burns/], Maria Sharapova [https://tim.blog/2017/08/26/maria-sharapova/], Marc Andreessen [https://tim.blog/2016/05/29/marc-andreessen/], Neil Gaiman [https://tim.blog/2019/03/28/neil-gaiman/], Neil de Grasse Tyson [https://tim.blog/2019/10/03/neil-degrasse-tyson/], Jocko Willink [https://tim.blog/2016/09/21/jocko-willink-on-discipline-leadership-and-overcoming-doubt/], Daniel Ek [https://tim.blog/2020/12/03/daniel-ek/], Kelly Slater [https://tim.blog/2020/09/08/kelly-slater/], Dr. Peter Attia [https://tim.blog/2019/11/27/peter-attia-fasting-metformin-longevity/], Seth Godin [https://tim.blog/2016/02/10/seth-godin/], Howard Marks [https://tim.blog/2018/09/25/howard-marks/], Dr. Brené Brown [https://tim.blog/2020/02/06/brene-brown-striving-self-acceptance-saving-marriages/], Eric Schmidt [https://tim.blog/2019/04/09/eric-schmidt/], Michael Lewis [https://tim.blog/2020/05/01/michael-lewis/], Joe Gebbia [https://tim.blog/2018/03/08/joe-gebbia-co-founder-of-airbnb/], Michael Pollan [https://tim.blog/2018/05/06/michael-pollan-how-to-change-your-mind/], Dr. Jordan Peterson [https://tim.blog/2021/03/01/jordan-peterson/], Vince Vaughn [https://tim.blog/2017/05/31/vince-vaughn/], Brian Koppelman [https://tim.blog/2020/04/23/brian-koppelman/], Ramit Sethi [https://tim.blog/2019/05/07/ramit-sethi/], Dax Shepard [https://tim.blog/2020/11/18/dax-shepard/], Tony Robbins [https://tim.blog/2014/10/15/money-master-the-game/], Jim Dethmer [https://tim.blog/2020/05/18/jim-dethmer/], Dan Harris [https://tim.blog/2020/11/19/dan-harris/], Ray Dalio [https://tim.blog/2017/09/13/ray-dalio/], Naval Ravikant [https://tim.blog/2015/08/18/the-evolutionary-angel-naval-ravikant/], Vitalik Buterin [https://tim.blog/2021/03/08/vitalik-buterin-naval-ravikant/], Elizabeth Lesser [https://tim.blog/2021/03/16/elizabeth-lesser/], Amanda Palmer [https://tim.blog/2019/04/18/amanda-palmer-2/], Katie Haun [https://tim.blog/2021/02/18/katie-haun/], Sir Richard Branson [https://tim.blog/2017/10/09/richard-branson/], Chuck Palahniuk [https://tim.blog/2020/09/02/chuck-palahniuk/], Arianna Huffington [https://tim.blog/2017/10/18/arianna-huffington/], Reid Hoffman [https://tim.blog/2015/08/31/the-oracle-of-silicon-valley-reid-hoffman-plus-michael-mccullough/], Bill Burr [https://tim.blog/2017/09/17/bill-burr/], Whitney Cummings [https://tim.blog/2015/06/26/whitney-cummings/], Rick Rubin [https://tim.blog/2015/05/15/rick-rubin/], Dr. Vivek Murthy [https://tim.blog/2020/03/26/vivek-murthy/], Darren Aronofsky [https://tim.blog/2017/09/09/darren-aronofsky/], Margaret Atwood [https://tim.blog/2022/02/22/margaret-atwood/], Mark Zuckerberg [https://tim.blog/2022/03/24/mark-zuckerberg/], Peter Thiel [https://tim.blog/2014/09/09/peter-thiel/], Dr. Gabor Maté [https://tim.blog/2018/02/20/gabor-mate/], Anne Lamott [https://tim.blog/2021/07/09/anne-lamott/], Sarah Silverman [https://tim.blog/2022/01/12/sarah-silverman/], Dr. Andrew Huberman [https://tim.blog/2021/07/06/andrew-huberman/], and many more. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy [https://art19.com/privacy] and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info [https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info].

This episode is a new experiment called Meditation Monday. The teacher, Henry Shukman, has been on my podcast twice before. He is one of only a few dozen masters in the world authorized to teach Sanbo Zen, and now, he’ll be your teacher. In addition to my long-form interviews each week, every Monday I’ll bring you a short 10-minute or so meditation, which will help you for the rest of the week. Over this four-episode series, you’ll develop a Zen toolkit to help you find greater calm, peace, and effectiveness in your daily life. Henry’s app, The Way [https://thewayapp.com/tim], has changed my life since I first started using it. Unlike other meditation apps, where you’re overwhelmed with a thousand choices, The Way is a clear step-by-step training program guided entirely by Henry. Through a logical progression, you’ll develop real skills that stick with you. I’ve been using it daily, often twice a day, and it’s lowered my anxiety more than I thought possible. As a listener of my podcast, you can get 30 free sessions by visiting https://thewayapp.com/tim [https://thewayapp.com/tim] and downloading the app. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy [https://art19.com/privacy] and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info [https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info].

Greg McKeown is the author of two New York Times bestsellers, Essentialism: The Disciplined Pursuit of Less [https://www.amazon.com/Essentialism-Disciplined-Pursuit-Greg-McKeown-ebook/dp/B00G1J1D28/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20] and Effortless: Make It Easier to Do What Matters Most [https://www.amazon.com/Effortless-Make-Easier-What-Matters/dp/0593135644/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20]. 200,000 people receive his weekly 1-Minute Wednesday [https://gregmckeown.com/1mw/] newsletter, and he recently released The Essentialism Planner: A 90-Day Guide to Accomplishing More by Doing Less [https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0593578414?tag=offsitoftimfe-20].  Sponsors: Momentous [https://livemomentous.com/tim] high-quality supplements: https://livemomentous.com/tim [https://livemomentous.com/tim] (code TIM for 20% off) Eight Sleep’s Pod 4 Ultra [https://www.eightsleep.com/tim/] sleeping solution for dynamic cooling and heating: https://eightsleep.com/tim [https://eightsleep.com/tim] (save $350 on the Pod 4 Ultra) Wealthfront [https://wealthfront.com/Tim] high-yield cash account: https://Wealthfront.com/Tim [https://wealthfront.com/Tim] (Start earning 4.00% APY on your short-term cash until you’re ready to invest. And when new clients open an account today, you can get an extra fifty-dollar bonus [https://wealthfront.com/Tim] with a deposit of five hundred dollars or more.) Terms apply. Tim Ferriss receives cash compensation from Wealthfront Brokerage, LLC for advertising and holds a non-controlling equity interest in the corporate parent of Wealthfront Brokerage. See full disclosures here [https://wealthfront.com/Tim]. * Timestamps: [00:00] Who is Greg McKeown?  [05:12] Handling destabilizing events and personal turmoil. [10:47] Writing as therapy and “screaming onto the page.” [13:35] Using Morning Pages and AI tools for personal reflection. [17:52] Carl Rogers and the power of deep listening. [20:33] Reviewing the core concepts of Essentialism and Effortless. [24:54] Temporal landmarks and the fresh start effect. [29:25] Personal quarterly offsites and the importance of direction over speed. [31:13] The three essential questions for quarterly reviews. [34:16] Making essential tasks effortless — practical examples and strategies. [37:03] The law of inverse prioritization — why important things don’t get done. [38:45] Strategies for making tasks simpler — the microburst concept. [44:37] The courage to be rubbish. [47:09] Pre-mortems and anticipating obstacles. [52:37] Michael Phelps’ preparation and routine. [01:07:31] The 1-2-3 method and defining what “done” looks like. [01:15:19] Meaning over productivity, and making vs. managing. [01:23:14] Radical gratitude and finding meaning in suffering. [01:36:43] Parting thoughts on deep connection and listening. * For show notes and past guests on The Tim Ferriss Show [https://tim.blog/podcast], please visit tim.blog/podcast [https://tim.blog/podcast/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=podcast-description]. 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