Behind the Bastards

Robert tells David about Ziz's glorious plan to take to the sea and sever the right and left brains of her followers in order to make them psychopaths god that sentence was weird to write trust us the episode is weirder. See omnystudio.com/listener [https://omnystudio.com/listener] for privacy information.

All of this week's episodes of It Could Happen Here put together in one large file.  1. How the State Created Elon Musk 2. Candace Owens' Hollywood Tabloid Pivot feat. Bridget Todd 3. Mahmoud Khalil's Arrest and What Comes Next 4. Nate Silver: The Smoothest Brain On The Internet 5. Executive Disorder: White House Weekly #7 You can now listen to all Cool Zone Media shows, 100% ad-free through the Cooler Zone Media subscription, available exclusively on Apple Podcasts. So, open your Apple Podcasts app, search for “Cooler Zone Media” and subscribe today! http://apple.co/coolerzone [http://apple.co/coolerzone]  Sources/Links: How the State Created Elon Musk https://escholarship.org/uc/item/0sg0782h [https://escholarship.org/uc/item/0sg0782h] https://www.axios.com/2025/01/09/tesla-clean-credits-trump [https://www.axios.com/2025/01/09/tesla-clean-credits-trump] https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/tesla-racked-up-greenhouse-emissions-credits-2023-other-automakers-lagged-2024-11-25/ [https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/tesla-racked-up-greenhouse-emissions-credits-2023-other-automakers-lagged-2024-11-25/] https://www.aol.com/report-says-elon-musks-businesses-170042735.html [https://www.aol.com/report-says-elon-musks-businesses-170042735.html]? https://archive.is/QyXuK [https://archive.is/QyXuK] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-02-28/wealthy-americans-fuel-half-of-us-economy-consumer-spending 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Robert tells David Gborie about the early life of Ziz LaSota, a bright young girl from Alaska who came to the Bay Area with dreams of saving the cosmos or destroying it, all based on her obsession with Rationalist blogs and fanfic. See omnystudio.com/listener [https://omnystudio.com/listener] for privacy information.

Earlier this year a Border Patrol officer was killed in a shoot-out with people who have been described as members of a trans vegan AI death cult. But who are the Zizians, really? Robert sits down with David Gborie to trace their development, from part of the Bay Area Rationalist subculture to killers. (4 Part series) Sources:  1. https://medium.com/@sefashapiro/a-community-warning-about-ziz-76c100180509 [https://medium.com/@sefashapiro/a-community-warning-about-ziz-76c100180509] 2. https://web.archive.org/web/20230201130318/https://sinceriously.fyi/rationalist-fleet/ [https://web.archive.org/web/20230201130318/https:/sinceriously.fyi/rationalist-fleet/] 3. https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/infohazard [https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/infohazard] 4. https://web.archive.org/web/20230201130316/https://sinceriously.fyi/net-negative/ [https://web.archive.org/web/20230201130316/https:/sinceriously.fyi/net-negative/] 5. Wayback Machine [https://archive.is/hgTdD] 6. 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Inside the ‘Zizians’: How a cultish crew of radical vegans became linked to killings across the United States | The Independent [https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/crime/zizian-murders-david-maland-curtis-lind-b2701101.html] 20. Silicon Valley ‘Rationalists’ Linked to 6 Deaths [https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/ziz-silicon-valley-rationalist-deaths-1235278765/] 21. The Delirious, Violent, Impossible True Story of the Zizians | WIRED [https://archive.is/4HAtn] 22. Good Group and Pasek’s Doom – Sinceriously [https://web.archive.org/web/20230201130336/https:/sinceriously.fyi/good-group-and-paseks-doom/] 23. Glossary – Sinceriously [https://web.archive.org/web/20230201130302/https:/sinceriously.fyi/glossary/#zentraidon] 24. Mana – Sinceriously [https://web.archive.org/web/20230201130331/https:/sinceriously.fyi/mana/] 25. Effective Altruism’s Problems Go Beyond Sam Bankman-Fried - Bloomberg [https://archive.is/xhV0S] 26. 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All of this week's episodes of It Could Happen Here put together in one large file.  1. The Future of Peacekeeping In Africa 2. The Last Trial of the Fight Against Mountain Valley Pipeline 3. The USA's Impending Telemedicine Cliff 4. King Trump Yells at Congress 5. Executive Disorder: White House Weekly #6 You can now listen to all Cool Zone Media shows, 100% ad-free through the Cooler Zone Media subscription, available exclusively on Apple Podcasts. So, open your Apple Podcasts app, search for “Cooler Zone Media” and subscribe today! http://apple.co/coolerzone [http://apple.co/coolerzone]  Sources/Links: King Trump Yells at Congress https://www.npr.org/2025/03/05/nx-s1-5318104/trump-joint-address-congress-takeaways [https://www.npr.org/2025/03/05/nx-s1-5318104/trump-joint-address-congress-takeaways] https://www.npr.org/2025/03/04/nx-s1-5318102/trump-joint-session-al-green-protest [https://www.npr.org/2025/03/04/nx-s1-5318102/trump-joint-session-al-green-protest] https://www.thepinknews.com/2025/03/05/january-littlejohn-donald-trump/ [https://www.thepinknews.com/2025/03/05/january-littlejohn-donald-trump/] https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2025/03/05/trump-social-security-fraud-claims/81508815007/ [https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2025/03/05/trump-social-security-fraud-claims/81508815007/] Executive Disorder: White House Weekly #6 https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/4086787/pentagon-deploys-stryker-brigade-aviation-battalion-to-southern-border/ [https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/4086787/pentagon-deploys-stryker-brigade-aviation-battalion-to-southern-border/] https://www.defense.gov/News/Releases/Release/Article/4086539/dod-statement-on-deployment-of-stryker-brigade-combat-team-to-help-secure-our-s/ [https://www.defense.gov/News/Releases/Release/Article/4086539/dod-statement-on-deployment-of-stryker-brigade-combat-team-to-help-secure-our-s/] https://www.northcom.mil/Newsroom/Press-Releases/Article/4086531/additional-troops-to-enhance-border-security-operations/ [https://www.northcom.mil/Newsroom/Press-Releases/Article/4086531/additional-troops-to-enhance-border-security-operations/] https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-ukraine-minerals-deal-trump-zelenskyy/ [https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-ukraine-minerals-deal-trump-zelenskyy/] https://apnews.com/article/trump-tariffs-canada-mexico-china-643086a6dc7ff716d876b3c83e3255b0 [https://apnews.com/article/trump-tariffs-canada-mexico-china-643086a6dc7ff716d876b3c83e3255b0] https://apnews.com/article/trudeau-trump-canada-tariffs-us-5d5ef8bd41c4567926d543a9526b2e84 [https://apnews.com/article/trudeau-trump-canada-tariffs-us-5d5ef8bd41c4567926d543a9526b2e84] https://www.mining.com/web/copper-prices-surge-as-trump-signals-25-tariff-on-imports/ [https://www.mining.com/web/copper-prices-surge-as-trump-signals-25-tariff-on-imports/] https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/05/trump-tariffs-live-updates-china-says-its-ready-to-fight-any-type-of-war-us-wants-till-the-end.html [https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/05/trump-tariffs-live-updates-china-says-its-ready-to-fight-any-type-of-war-us-wants-till-the-end.html] https://apnews.com/article/trump-tariffs-canada-mexico-china-lutnick-2b269614084027a4894aa14f3dc16227 [https://apnews.com/article/trump-tariffs-canada-mexico-china-lutnick-2b269614084027a4894aa14f3dc16227] https://www.kob.com/news/top-news/wipp-in-carlsbad-under-doge-cuts/ [https://www.kob.com/news/top-news/wipp-in-carlsbad-under-doge-cuts/] See omnystudio.com/listener [https://omnystudio.com/listener] for privacy information.