Conscious Curiosity
What does it really mean to work with neurodivergent people, not just about them? In this powerful guest episode of Conscious Curiosity, Franck sits down with Lauren Powell, lecturer in Psychology and Education at the University of Sheffield and a lived experience neurodiversity researcher. She is also the author of the paper “We’re Not Your Empathy Exercise: Reclaiming Co-Production in Neurodivergent Research and Practice” which they both discuss in today's episode... the first time EVER that a paper’s author joins the conversation on the podcast. Together, Franck & Lauren unpack what true co-production looks like when lived experience meets academic research. Together, they explore how good intentions can slip into tokenism, why “nothing about us without us” still matters, and how to build research - and workplaces - that are genuinely equitable. __________________________ 🎧 Listen in to discover: 🧠 Why participation doesn’t always mean equity 💬 How to close the loop and avoid “lived-experience extraction” 🤝 What ethical, reciprocal collaboration really looks like in action This one’s essential listening for anyone shaping neurodiversity research, policy, or practice. __________________________ 🧠 Connect directly with Neurodiversity in the Workplace Coach Franck Brown: https://www.consciousclarity.co.uk/get-in-touch [https://www.consciousclarity.co.uk/get-in-touch] www.linkedin.com/in/franckbrown [http://www.linkedin.com/in/franckbrown] franck@consciousclarity.co.uk [franck@consciousclarity.co.uk] __________________________ 🧠 Connect directly with Lauren Powell: linkedin.com/in/lauren-powell-10175b87 [https://www.linkedin.com/in/lauren-powell-10175b87] https://sheffield.ac.uk/education/people/academic/edu/lauren-powell [https://sheffield.ac.uk/education/people/academic/edu/lauren-powell] __________________________ Link to today’s academic paper: We’re Not Your Empathy Exercise: Reclaiming Co-Production in Neurodivergent Research and Practice by Lauren Powell (2024) -https://eprints.whiterose.ac.uk/id/eprint/229990/1/powell-2025-we-re-not-your-empathy-exercise-reclaiming-co-production-in-neurodivergent-research-and-practice.pdf [https://eprints.whiterose.ac.uk/id/eprint/229990/1/powell-2025-we-re-not-your-empathy-exercise-reclaiming-co-production-in-neurodivergent-research-and-practice.pdf] __________________________ As ever, thanks for listening & catch you next episode!
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