Drew and Dan in the Morning

Scandal!

Drew and Dan talk about the shocking new China scandal, app review guidelines, animating SF symbols, and the importance of app accessibility. Drew makes a bold prediction about WWDC 2026. Chapters * 00:00 Scandal! * 02:58 App Review Guidelines update * 06:03 Dan's Dazzling Discoveries: Animating SF Symbols * 08:53 App Accessibility * 11:29 Accessibility Nutrition Labels and The Bold Prediction * 14:39 App Intents vs Accessibility Labels * 20:18 Preparing for WWDC 2026: Accessibility and Nutrition Labels * 28:07 Final Thoughts and To-Do List Finding Drew: * Bluesky [https://bsky.app/profile/thedrewbenson.bsky.social] * X / Twitter [https://x.com/thedrewbenson?s=21] * Drew’s YouTube live stream coding channel, @DrewBensonCodes [https://www.youtube.com/@DrewBensonCodes] Finding Dan: * Bluesky [https://bsky.app/profile/danoleary.me] * Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/devdanoleary] * Dan’s Swift on the Server blog, Certainly Swift [https://certainlyswift.com/] Links for things mentioned in this episode: * Drew's MacOS Accessibility Client on Github [https://github.com/drewster99/macos-accessibility-client] * WWDC 2026 [https://developer.apple.com/wwdc26/] Drew and Dan in the Morning can be found on: * Apple Podcasts [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/drew-and-dan-in-the-morning/id1894918993] * Spotify [https://open.spotify.com/show/0ZQTN7VeJ8NrxhlLksWK70] * YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/@DrewAndDanMorning] * Overcast [https://overcast.fm/itunes1894918993] Thanks for joining us!

Aspiring Finishers

Drew and Dan break down real-world software development—what’s working, what’s not, and where things are going. Topics range from app development and AI to conference takeaways (Deep Dish Swift), technical deep dives, and the occasional detour into reverse engineering and industry absurdities. Practical, opinionated, and grounded in actual experience. Chapters * 00:00 Hello! * 06:13 App Development and AI * 11:58 Deep Dish Swift Conference * 19:04 Technical Insights and Challenges * 26:10 Reverse Engineering and Humorous Presentations Finding Drew: * Bluesky [https://bsky.app/profile/thedrewbenson.bsky.social] * X / Twitter [https://x.com/thedrewbenson?s=21] Finding Dan: * Bluesky [https://bsky.app/profile/danoleary.me] * Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/devdanoleary] Links for things mentioned in this episode: * Dan’s new Swift blog, Certainly Swift [https://certainlyswift.com/] * Drew’s YouTube live stream coding channel, @DrewBensonCodes [https://www.youtube.com/@DrewBensonCodes] * 9 to 5 Mac’s story on 4-star reviews:App Store ratings ‘broken’ as your 4-star review could hurt a developer [https://9to5mac.com/2026/04/20/app-store-ratings-broken-as-your-4-star-review-could-hurt-a-developer/] * Dan’s social check-in (and Swarm replacement) app,, The Midst [https://apps.apple.com/us/app/the-midst/id6593661633] * Relay Team Finder - releasing in August  - for Aspiring Finishers * Deep Dish Swift 2026 [https://deepdishswift.com/] * Adam Tow [https://tow.com/] and his great talk on being adaptable, The Long Game: 30+ Years as an Indie Apple Developer [https://www.youtube.com/live/HzbDJL0_yLY?si=QaAGrDx-b32KcDxw&t=7706] * David Beck [https://davidbeck.co/]’s talk, Surviving in Low Connectivity [https://www.youtube.com/live/-m5h2jXPp54?si=JUFmxTyLm4SEQNxS&t=4147] * Chad Etzel [https://www.jazzyapps.com/]’s awesome talk on Reverse Engineering the macOS Genie Animation [https://www.youtube.com/live/-m5h2jXPp54?si=0B7dfyD9rsoVd4Ol&t=22189] Drew and Dan in the Morning can be found on: * Apple Podcasts [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/drew-and-dan-in-the-morning/id1894918993] * Spotify [https://open.spotify.com/show/0ZQTN7VeJ8NrxhlLksWK70] * YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/@DrewAndDanMorning] * Overcast [https://overcast.fm/itunes1894918993] Thanks for joining us!