Just Like Nana

Erica Bonham

In this episode of Just Like Nana, host Amie (Elizabeth) Penny Sayler is joined by Erica Bonham, a licensed counselor and embodied leadership coach, where they explore a “badass nervous system”, emotional alchemy, and tips for listening to your body. About Erica Erica Bonham is a licensed professional counselor, speaker, best selling author and embodied leadership coach. Her work bridges individual transformation and collective healing. She leads trainings on EMDR, ancestral trauma, and embodied, heart-led leadership. In This Episode, You’ll Learn: * The difference between fake resiliency, a high-functioning trauma response rooted in fear, and true capacity. * How to stay present with difficult emotions. Instead of avoiding the hard things, learn to use them as fuel for your growth and leadership. * Moving beyond repeating affirmations like "I am worthy." Shift into an embodied practice where your value is something you feel in your cells, not just something you think in your head. * Explore the intersection of the body, the heart, and the mind. When you unwind the patterns in all three areas, you stop playing small and start trusting your own intuition and impact. * Why setting boundaries isn't just a social skill, but a physiological requirement for your nervous system. Strengthening your capacity to say "no" increases your capacity. Resources Mentioned * Kim Krans The Wild Archetypes Deck [https://www.amazon.com/Wild-Archetypes-Deck-Guidebook/dp/0062871773?ref_=ast_author_dp] * Kasia Urbaniack’s Book, Unbound [https://www.kasiaurbaniak.com/unbound-book] Connect with Erica Bonham Website: https://www.avoscounseling.com [https://www.avoscounseling.com/] Embodied and Unstoppable Workshop [https://www.avoscounseling.com/embodied-and-unstoppable-workshop] Nervous System Reset Toolkit [https://www.avoscounseling.com/freebie] Erica’s Book: Always Enough, Never Done [https://www.avoscounseling.com/always-enough] Connect with the Show * Website: justlikenana.com [http://justlikenana.com] * Share Your Story: If you have a family story or trauma you’re exploring, reach out via our website for a chance to be interviewed. Connect with Just Like Nana's Website [https://justlikenana.com/]. A proud member of the Feminist Podcasters Collective [https://feministpodcasterscollective.com/]. Theme music by Carter Penny.

Bee Doyle

In this episode of Just Like Nana, host Amie (Elizabeth) Penny Sayler is joined by Bee Doyle, a  nurse practitioner, intuitive healer, and spiritual teacher, to discuss moving out of survival states into a journey of healing and thriving. Together, they explore the non-linear nature of healing, ways to regulate your nervous system, tapping into ancestral resilience, and more. About Bee Bee Doyle is a nurse practitioner, intuitive healer, and spiritual teacher who uniquely bridges the worlds of medicine and metaphysics. As a combat veteran, her own path to wellness began after returning from a tour in Afghanistan, where she navigated the complexities of post-traumatic stress and a lost sense of purpose.Today, she is the owner of Double Libra Astrology, where she blends her medical background with evolutionary astrology, ancestral healing, and embodiment practices to guide others toward a holistic state of empowered living.  In This Episode, You’ll Learn: * Healing is never a linear path from A to Z; it is a journey full of twists and turns that requires self-grace when you feel you’ve taken a step backward . * True healing often remains stuck if your body doesn't feel safe. Learning to move out of high-alert states—like fight, flight, or freeze—is the essential foundation for any deep ancestral or trauma work. * Use the "Heavy vs. Light" tool to build your intuition like a muscle. Pay attention to how your body physically reacts to truths (feeling "light" or expansive) versus untruths (feeling "heavy" or restricted) to guide your daily decisions . * While we often focus on ancestral wounds, our lineage also contains the "resilience and positive tools" that allowed our ancestors to survive. Reclaiming these gifts is just as vital as healing the trauma . * Showing up for yourself with softness and compassion creates a ripple effect, softening the world around you and positively impacting your community and future generations. Resources Mentioned * What is Somatic Therapy?: https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/what-is-somatic-therapy-202307072951 [https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/what-is-somatic-therapy-202307072951]  Connect with Bee Bee’s Upcoming Book, Keepers of the Light: https://publishizer.com/keepers-of-the-light/ [https://publishizer.com/keepers-of-the-light/] Website: https://doublelibraastrology.com/ [https://doublelibraastrology.com/] Instagram: @doublelibracoaching Connect with the Show * Website: justlikenana.com [http://justlikenana.com] * Share Your Story: If you have a family story or trauma you’re exploring, reach out via our website for a chance to be interviewed. Connect with Just Like Nana's Website [https://justlikenana.com/]. A proud member of the Feminist Podcasters Collective [https://feministpodcasterscollective.com/]. Theme music by Carter Penny.

Dr. Erika Yourdan

In this episode of Just Like Nana, host Amie (Elizabeth) Penny Sayler is joined by Dr. Erika Yourdan, a licensed therapist and counselor, where they discuss how to use systemic thinking and nature-based healing to bridge the gap between your past and your present, helping you claim your rightful place as a cycle breaker.  Together they explore the feeling of psychological homelessness, where the fractures in our family history leave us feeling disconnected from our roots and our sense of belonging.  About Dr. Erika Yourdan Dr. Erika Yourdan is a licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, addiction counselor, and certified EMDR practitioner based in Abilene, Texas. As a systemic thinker, Dr. Yourdan specializes in looking beyond individual symptoms to uncover the complex web of relational and ancestral transmissions that shape our lives. In This Episode, You’ll Learn: * Understand Psychological Homelessness: Recognize that the feeling of not fitting in often stems from a lack of emotional or ancestral safety. Healing begins when we acknowledge this displacement and start building an internal sense of home. * The Power of Relational Transmission: Learn how trauma isn't just an event, but a vibe or way of relating that is passed down through generations. By identifying these systemic patterns, you can stop the copy-paste of trauma in your own life. * Regulate Your Nervous System with Eco-Therapy: Discover how connecting with nature—whether through a hike or simply sitting with a tree—can help ground your felt senses and provide the safety your brain needs to process difficult family histories. * The Logic of Safety: Move beyond the just do it scared mentality. Dr. Yourdan explains how to logic your way into safety by reminding your brain that the current environment is secure, allowing you to take steps forward, sideways, or even back with grace. * Embrace Your Role as a Cycle Breaker: Accept your calling as a disruptor or transitional character. You don't have to heal generations of wounds in one day; even a single, small step is enough to start changing the story for your descendants. Resources Mentioned * What is Polyvagal Theory? [https://www.polyvagalinstitute.org/whatispolyvagaltheory] * Dr. Laurel Thorton [https://www.wholebrainsolutionswv.com/laurel-oneal-thornton] Connect with Dr. Erika Yourdan https://thesumofyoucounseling.com/ [https://thesumofyoucounseling.com/] Connect with the Show * Website: justlikenana.com [http://justlikenana.com] * Share Your Story: If you have a family story or trauma you’re exploring, reach out via our website for a chance to be interviewed. Connect with Just Like Nana's Website [https://justlikenana.com/]. A proud member of the Feminist Podcasters Collective [https://feministpodcasterscollective.com/]. Theme music by Carter Penny.

Joanna Kent Katz

In this episode of Just Like Nana, host Amie (Elizabeth) Penny Sayler is joined by healer and social justice educator Joanna Kent Katz, as they explore how to move from inherited patterns of trauma and cultural assimilation toward a heart-centered state of collective liberation. Together they discuss how healing your personal lineage is a vital step in dismantling systemic oppression and understanding your belonging in the world. About Jo Kent Katz Jo Kent Katz is an intuitive healer, social justice educator, and an ordained Kohenet (Hebrew Priestess) dedicated to the work of justice and healing. With a lineage rooted in Ashkenazi Jewish history across Russia, Romania, Ukraine, and Poland, Jo brings a deep understanding of how historical trauma and cultural assimilation impact our modern lives. She is the creator of "Transcending Jewish Trauma," a comprehensive resource that maps out inherited trauma patterns specifically for white Ashkenazi lineages. Jo also offers For Sacred Consideration, which are spiritual teachings Jo receives through channeling.  Jo bridges the gap between ritual support and social change, helping individuals navigate intergenerational healing to foster a deeper sense of communal and personal belonging. In This Episode, You’ll Learn: * How your brain creates survival strategies based on ancestral fears. * Why personal ancestral healing is a prerequisite for collective liberation. By addressing our own inherited trauma, we stop projecting survival patterns onto our community spaces and social justice work. * The cost of "whiteness" and assimilation for those with immigrant lineages. * How to map out the specific traumas of your lineage—such as displacement or systemic violence—to understand how they manifest in your nervous system today as hyper-vigilance or a sense of not enoughness. Connect with Jo Kent Katz      https://www.jokentkatz.com/ [https://www.jokentkatz.com/]      https://www.transcendingjewishtrauma.com/ [https://www.transcendingjewishtrauma.com/]      https://www.patreon.com/SacredConsideration [https://www.patreon.com/SacredConsideration] Resources Blintz information: https://chompies.com/the-history-of-the-blintz/ [https://chompies.com/the-history-of-the-blintz/] Melanie Kaye/Kantrowitz: https://jwa.org/encyclopedia/article/kaye-kantrowitz-melanie [https://jwa.org/encyclopedia/article/kaye-kantrowitz-melanie] Connect with the Show We would love to hear your family stories. * Website: justlikenana.com [http://justlikenana.com] Connect with Just Like Nana's Website [https://justlikenana.com/]. A proud member of the Feminist Podcasters Collective [https://feministpodcasterscollective.com/]. Theme music by Carter Penny.

Savannah Brown

In this episode of Just Like Nana, host Amie (Elizabeth) Penny Sayler is joined by Savannah Brown, where they discuss the mental and emotional tolls of breaking generational trauma patterns.  Together, they explore the reality that breaking trauma cycles isn't a clean, linear process—it's messy, imperfect, and requires an incredible amount of somatic awareness and radical self-honesty to move forward. About Savannah An Army veteran and police officer, Savannah is also a student obtaining a Master’s in Social Work. She is the author of In the Wake of Wounds: A Soul's Revival, a raw and unfiltered look at her personal journey through grief and the complexities of family dynamics.  In This Episode, You’ll Learn: * Recognize that breaking generational cycles isn't a "one and done" event. It involves navigating a confusing, non-linear path of grief, anger, and acceptance where the goal isn't perfection, but consistent effort and self-grace. * Learn to listen to your body’s signals. Identifying physical sensations—like a racing heart or a gut feeling—is a critical first step in regulating your nervous system and stopping a trauma response before it takes over. * Discover how the act of conscious parenting can actually accelerate your own healing. By choosing to react with patience instead of the autopilot of your past, you aren't just protecting your children; you are re-parenting yourself. * Shift your perspective on relationships by prioritizing reciprocity and safety. Healing involves the difficult but necessary work of setting boundaries with people who do not support your peace or growth. * Adopt a mindset of ancestral sovereignty. Even when you are breaking their cycles, you can carry the strength and resilience of those who came before you, entering every space with the confidence that you belong there. Resources Mentioned * TacMobility [https://tacmobility.org/] * The Workout Witch [https://theworkoutwitch.com/] I connected with Savannah on #PodMatch.  Connect with Savannah In The Wake of Wounds: A Soul’s Revival [https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/in-the-wake-of-wounds-savannah-brown/1148196067] Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/saviib7/] Connect with the Show Do you have a family story you want to share? We want to hear from you! Connect with Just Like Nana's Website [https://justlikenana.com/]. A proud member of the Feminist Podcasters Collective [https://feministpodcasterscollective.com/]. Theme music by Carter Penny.