Kratom Sobriety

E180 Elliot Returns

Recently, we've had a trend of welcoming back old guests mostly to celebrate anniversary milestones but in Elliot's case, he is returning to warn about the risk of relapse.  After being almost off kratom for three years - June 2022 to March 2025 - Elliot tried 7-OH during a stressful time in his life.  After about 9 months, and getting up to 2,000 mg at a cost of $300 day at his extreme, he is now back on track.  Elliot's first appearance in May 2023: https://kratomsobriety.podbean.com/e/2-interview-with-elliot/ [https://kratomsobriety.podbean.com/e/2-interview-with-elliot/]    Checkout the new 12-step group focused on kratom: Home | Kratom Anonymous [https://www.kratom-anonymous.org/] https://www.kratom-anonymous.org/ [https://www.kratom-anonymous.org/]    WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7 [https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7]      QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com [https://www.kratommeetings.com]        CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety [https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety]        https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety [https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety]      https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety [https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety]       https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety [https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety]        https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety [https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety]    https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social [https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social]  https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety [https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety]          CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: kratomsobriety@gmail.com [kratomsobriety@gmail.com]      https://kratomsobriety.com [https://kratomsobriety.com]         PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424]  https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 [https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5]         https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00 [https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00]

E179 Middle Ground Kratom Regulation

Kratom was banned in Connecticut and Louisiana this year, as well as in scores of cities. Ohio and California, two big states, are taking significant actions to crack down on kratom in 2025. What are the alternatives? This episode explores a middle-ground approach to kratom regulation that rejects both total bans and weak, industry-written rules. We introduce six common-sense protections, including point-of-sale education, clear medical warnings, behind-the-counter sales, age verification for online purchases, naloxone availability, and strict limits on high-potency extracts. The goal is to make kratom use safer by offering pre-purchase digital counselling, reducing impulsive purchases, protecting youth, and limiting the most addictive and dangerous products while preserving adult access to lower-risk leaf forms. READ MORE: https://kratomsobriety.com/f/middle-ground-kratom-regulations [https://kratomsobriety.com/f/middle-ground-kratom-regulations]   WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7 [https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7]      QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com [https://www.kratommeetings.com]        CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety [https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety]        https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety [https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety]      https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety [https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety]       https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety [https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety]        https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety [https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety]    https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social [https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social]  https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety [https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety]          CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: kratomsobriety@gmail.com [kratomsobriety@gmail.com]      https://kratomsobriety.com [https://kratomsobriety.com]         PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424]  https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 [https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5]         https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00 [https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00]

E178 Ramey Returns

Jacob and Lily discuss how the hosts let guests tell their story from their point of view, and as a podcast we are not able to vet people before they are interviewed. Ramey celebrates two years off kratom with Natalie. To connect with the meetings discussed in the interview, please visit: https://kratomquitters.com/ [https://kratomquitters.com/]    WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7 [https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7]      QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com [https://www.kratommeetings.com]        CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety [https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety]        https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety [https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety]      https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety [https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety]       https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety [https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety]        https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety [https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety]    https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social [https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social]  https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety [https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety]          CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: kratomsobriety@gmail.com [kratomsobriety@gmail.com]      https://kratomsobriety.com [https://kratomsobriety.com]         PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424]  https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 [https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5]         https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00 [https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00]

E177 Thomas

Episode focused on quitting kratom with a lockbox as a tool. In the interview this week, Gen-Xer Thomas (long-time primarily a powder user with many attempted quits) describes the challenge as: "Addiction lies to you in your own voice".   Lockbox links (like always we don't get any commissions if you buy one): https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/11/style/lockable-box-container.html [https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/11/style/lockable-box-container.html?smid=url-share] https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/home-products/g35902030/top-time-locking-containers [https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/home-products/g35902030/top-time-locking-containers]  https://www.thekitchensafe.com/ [https://www.thekitchensafe.com/]   A rough estimate of Thomas' end of day dose before he quit: Three heaping tablespoons of kratom powder ≈ 18–24 grams. Here is how that breaks down: A) 1 level tablespoon of kratom powder is usually about 5–7 grams B) A heaping tablespoon is typically 6–8 grams C) 3 heaping tablespoons → 6–8 g × 3 = 18–24 g Kratom powder density varies by grind, moisture, and how loosely it is scooped. "Heaping” is very subjective. Some heaps are modest, others are piled high. Volume measures are unreliable for kratom. A digital scale is the only accurate way to know dose. 18–24 grams is considered a very high dose for most people and is well into a range associated with dependence, tolerance escalation, and withdrawal risk.   WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7 [https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7]      QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com [https://www.kratommeetings.com]        CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety [https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety]        https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety [https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety]      https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety [https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety]       https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety [https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety]        https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety [https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety]    https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social [https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social]  https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety [https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety]          CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: kratomsobriety@gmail.com [kratomsobriety@gmail.com]      https://kratomsobriety.com [https://kratomsobriety.com]         PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424]  https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 [https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5]         https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00 [https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00]

E176 Cornel Stanciu, M.D. discusses 7-OH

Episode focused on 7-OH. Dr. Stanciu's credentials: https://geiselmed.dartmouth.edu/faculty/facultydb/view.php/?uid=7021 [https://geiselmed.dartmouth.edu/faculty/facultydb/view.php/?uid=7021]  Article Charlie & Jazz discuss about 7-OH potency in guinea pig intestines: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0024320505008167 [https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0024320505008167]  FDA document Dr. Stancui refers to: https://www.fda.gov/media/187900/download [https://www.fda.gov/media/187900/download]   News article about 7-OH bust from end of open: https://www.cbsnews.com/miami/news/breaking-bad-on-steroids-palm-bay-brevard-county-florida-drugs-kratom-7-oh-explosives-bust/  [https://www.cbsnews.com/miami/news/breaking-bad-on-steroids-palm-bay-brevard-county-florida-drugs-kratom-7-oh-explosives-bust/]   WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7 [https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7]      QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com [https://www.kratommeetings.com]        CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety [https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety]        https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety [https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety]        https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety [https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety]       https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety [https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety]        https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety [https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety]    https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social [https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social]  https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety [https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety]          CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: kratomsobriety@gmail.com [kratomsobriety@gmail.com]        https://kratomsobriety.com [https://kratomsobriety.com]         PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424]       https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 [https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5]         https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00 [https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00]