Learn on the go: the Community Care podcast

Alex Ruck Keene talks Cheshire West, the Supreme Court ruling and what it means for you

A manually transcribed transcript of this podcast is available here [A%20manually%20transcribed%20transcript%20of%20this%20podcast%20is%20available%20here.%20https://markallenassets.blob.core.windows.net/ccinform/sites/3/2026/06/Transcript-Supreme-Court-podcast.pdf%20%20Welcome%20to%20Learn%20on%20the%20go,%20the%20podcast%20from%20Community%20Care%20Inform,%20where%20we%20discuss%20the%20issues%20affecting%20social%20workers%20and%20social%20care%20practitioners.%20%20This%20is%20a%20special,%20one-off%20edition%20of%20Learn%20on%20the%20go,%20discussing%20the%20seismic%20Supreme%20Court%20ruling%20on%202%20June%202026%20which%20overruled%20its%20own%20decision%20in%20P%20v%20Cheshire%20West%20and%20Chester%20Council%20&%20Anor%20[2014]%20UKSC%2019%20(Cheshire%20West)%20on%20the%20meaning%20of%20deprivation%20of%20liberty.%20In%20doing%20so,%20the%20Supreme%20Court%20held%20that:%20• There%20is%20no%20“acid%20test”%20when%20it%20comes%20to%20determining%20whether%20a%20person%20is%20deprived%20of%20their%20liberty,%20and%20instead%20a%20multifactorial%20assessment%20must%20be%20undertaken,%20and%20• A%20person%20who%20lacks%20capacity%20within%20the%20meaning%20of%20the%20Mental%20Capacity%20Act%202005%20can%20still%20give%20valid%20consent%20to%20their%20confinement%20for%20the%20purposes%20of%20the%20subjective%20element%20of%20the%20Article%205%20test.%20Discussing%20this%20issue%20is%20Alex%20Ruck%20Keene,%20an%20experienced%20barrister,%20writer%20and%20educator.%20His%20practice%20at%2039%20Essex%20Chambers%20is%20focused%20on%20mental%20capacity,%20mental%20health%20and%20healthcare%20law,%20in%20which%20he%20has%20appeared%20in%20cases%20at%20all%20levels%20up%20to%20and%20including%20The%20Supreme%20Court%20and%20the%20European%20Court%20of%20Human%20Rights.%20And%20indeed,%20Alex%20was%20one%20of%20the%20barristers%20on%20the%20Attorney%20General%20for%20Northern%20Ireland's%20legal%20team%20in%20this%20Supreme%20Court%20case.%20Questions%20were%20asked%20by%20Natalie%20Valios,%20senior%20content%20editor,%20Community%20Care%20Inform%20Adults.%20%20Timestamps%20References%20• The%20Supreme%20Court%20judgment%20• Supreme%20Court%20summary%20• Mental%20Capacity%20Law%20and%20Policy:%20Attorney%20General%20for%20Northern%20Ireland%20resources].  Welcome to Learn on the go, the podcast from Community Care Inform, where we discuss the issues affecting social workers and social care practitioners. This is a special, one-off edition of Learn on the go, discussing the seismic Supreme Court ruling on 2 June 2026 which overruled its own decision in P v Cheshire West and Chester Council & Anor [2014] UKSC 19 (Cheshire West) on the meaning of deprivation of liberty. In doing so, the Supreme Court held that: * There is no “acid test” when it comes to determining whether a person is deprived of their liberty, and instead a multifactorial assessment must be undertaken, and * A person who lacks capacity within the meaning of the Mental Capacity Act 2005 can still give valid consent to their confinement for the purposes of the subjective element of the Article 5 test. Discussing this issue is Alex Ruck Keene, an experienced barrister, writer and educator. His practice at 39 Essex Chambers is focused on mental capacity, mental health and healthcare law, in which he has appeared in cases at all levels up to and including The Supreme Court and the European Court of Human Rights. And indeed, Alex was one of the barristers on the Attorney General for Northern Ireland's legal team in this Supreme Court case. Questions were asked by Natalie Valios, senior content editor, Community Care Inform Adults. 0:01:30 - How the case came about 0:04:08 – Why judges have been uneasy about the acid test 0:08:03 – The parties involved and their arguments to the court 0:14:24 – Who did the Supreme Court rule in favour of? 0:15:38 – Clarifying the correct approach to identifying a deprivation of liberty 0:21:08 – The meaning of multifactorial 0:23:22 – Reassuring anyone worried about removal of safeguards for disabled people 0:26:24 – Can the case be challenged? 0:29:42 – Is a statutory definition needed? 0:32:14 – What happens next? 0:37:01 – What does this mean for Liberty Protection Safeguards? References * The Supreme Court judgment [https://supremecourt.uk/uploads/uksc_2025_0042_judgment_4f54653cf4.pdf] * Supreme Court summary [https://www.supremecourt.uk/cases/uksc-2025-0042] * Mental Capacity Law and Policy: Attorney General for Northern Ireland resources [https://www.mentalcapacitylawandpolicy.org.uk/resources-2/agni-resources/] See omnystudio.com/listener [https://omnystudio.com/listener] for privacy information.

Season 2 Episode 6 - county lines: playing the long game

A manually transcribed transcript of this podcast is available here [https://markallenassets.blob.core.windows.net/ccinform/sites/3/2026/03/County-lines-podcast-transcript-final.pdf]. Welcome to Learn on the go, the podcast from Community Care Inform, where we discuss the issues affecting social workers and social care practitioners. This episode looks at county lines and child criminal exploitation. Discussing this is Adam Elliott, founder of The Long Game [https://leaders-unlocked.org/projects/the-long-game/], a youth-led intervention to reduce young people’s risk of exposure to these forms of modern slavery. Adam uses his lived experience to highlight how children and young people are groomed, exploited and manipulated into county lines. At about 1 hour and 20 minutes, this is an extended edition of Learn on the go but we feel it is justified. Adam’s story is hard-hitting and, at times, difficult to listen to but it is full of information and tangible red flags that have to be heard to be understood. We realise that it’s a commitment on your part to sit with his story to the end but you will find learning points all the way through. If you’re finding it difficult to listen to, you may want to take a break and come back to it. We’d like to remind you to practise self-care and use supervision and peer support if you’ve been affected by this episode. Questions were asked by Natalie Valios, senior content editor, Community Care Inform Adults.  00:01:45 – Life before county lines 00:03:44 – Stereotypes and vulnerabilities 00:06:52 – Being groomed 00:08:53 – Dropping off the first package 00:13:13 – Early warning signs 00:14:59 – How county lines operate 00:23:13 – A community problem 00:25:52 – Asking for help 00:27:52 – Trap houses 00:34:51 – Hope of escape 00:38:40 – Facing prison 00:42:57 – Knife and chemical attacks 00:48:53 – Victim of modern slavery 00:51:27 – Parents’ suspicions 00:54:39 – Arrest on 18th birthday 01:01:44 – Missing out on life 01:07:51 – Contextual safeguarding 01:10:07 – Family support 01:11:20 – Importance of knowing the slang 01:13:55 – Misconceptions 01:18:08 – Crime and Policing Bill 01:19:18 – Life now See omnystudio.com/listener [https://omnystudio.com/listener] for privacy information.

Season 2 Episode 5 - welfare benefits

This episode focuses on welfare benefits and support in England and Wales. The welfare benefits system is designed to provide financial support to individuals and families in need. However, according to a report published in 2025 by Policy in Practice, over 7 million households in the UK are missing out on benefits and support due to limited awareness, complexity in the benefits system and stigma around claiming. These barriers are found to often overlap and disproportionately affect people already facing other disadvantages, including carers, disabled adults, older people on low incomes, single parents and people without strong social networks. Discussing this topic is Gary Vaux, the author of Community Care Inform's Benefits A-Z knowledge and practice hub. Gary has been involved in welfare rights for many years and until recently managed a team of local authority benefit and debt advice workers. His background includes training and writing on welfare benefit rules and policies, and he was also chair of the Social Security Advisers Group at the Local Government Association. Questions are asked by Gemma Balmford, content editor at Community Care Inform Adults. Subscribe to the Learn on the go series to stay up-to-date with new episodes. Look out for the final episode in Season 2, which will be released at the end of February 2026.  Links to resources mentioned in this podcast * Advicenow [https://www.advicenow.org.uk/] * Age UK [https://www.ageuk.org.uk/] * Benefits and Work [https://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/] * CC Inform's benefits A-Z [https://adults.ccinform.co.uk/knowledge-hubs/benefits-a-z/] (free for CC Inform subscribers) * Child Poverty Action Group [https://cpag.org.uk/] * Citizens Advice [https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/] * Contact [https://contact.org.uk/] * Disability Rights UK [https://www.disabilityrightsuk.org/] * entitledto [https://www.entitledto.co.uk/] * Mencap [https://www.mencap.org.uk/] * MIND [https://www.mind.org.uk/] * Motor Neurone Disease Association [https://www.mndassociation.org/] * Policy in Practice [https://policyinpractice.co.uk/] * Rightsnet [https://www.rightsnet.org.uk/] * RNIB [https://www.rnib.org.uk/] * RNID [https://rnid.org.uk/] * Scope [https://www.scope.org.uk/] * Turn2Us [https://www.turn2us.org.uk/] See omnystudio.com/listener [https://omnystudio.com/listener] for privacy information.

Season 2 Episode 4 - the occupational therapist's role in eating disorder treatment

Welcome to Learn on the go, a Community Care Inform podcast, where we discuss the issues affecting social workers and social care practitioners. This episode focuses on eating disorders in adults and the support that occupational therapists can provide. Beat, the UK's eating disorder charity, estimates that 1.25 million people in the UK have an eating disorder and, contrary to popular belief, about a quarter are male.  Discussing this subject is Abigail Cardwell, the lead occupational therapist for eating disorders at the South West London and St George's Mental Health NHS Trust. Abigail is also a clinical associate trainer for Beat and co-chair of the Royal College of Occupational Therapists' eating disorders specialist network.   Eating disorders are complex mental illnesses affecting people of all ages, genders, ethnicities and backgrounds. Behaviours can include limiting the amount of food eaten, eating very large quantities of food at once, getting rid of food eaten through unhealthy means or a mixture of any of these. They can cause serious harm physically, mentally and emotionally and, sadly, in some cases can be fatal. But despite being such serious illnesses, they are treatable and people can make a full recovery with the right support.  We want to give a warning about the content in this episode. We'd encourage you to look after yourself while listening and use supervision and peer support if it brings up anything difficult for you. And if you’re worried about your own or someone else’s health, you can contact Beat, the UK's eating disorder charity, on 0808 801 0677 or visit the website beateatingdisorders.org.uk [https://www.beateatingdisorders.org.uk/] Questions are asked by Natalie Valios, senior content editor at Community Care Inform Adults. See omnystudio.com/listener [https://omnystudio.com/listener] for privacy information.

Season 2 Episode 3 - working with fathers in child protection

In this episode, Philip Heslop, assistant professor of Social Work at Northumbria University, explores the vital topic of engaging fathers within the child protection system. In this discussion, Philip Heslop shares insights from his decades of experience regarding why fathers are often overlooked or excluded in social work practice, despite representing a significant portion of the population. The conversation explores the consequences of this exclusion for children and families, examines how gendered assumptions and bias influence social work decisions, and discusses practical, relationship-based approaches social workers can use to effectively engage with men, including those perceived as 'resistant'.  Philip Heslop also addresses the legal and systemic factors, such as legislation and resource constraints, that either help or hinder inclusive practice with diverse family structures, including kinship carers and stepparents. In this episode, Philip mentions recources for practitioners and parents including the Fatherhood Institute, [https://www.fatherhoodinstitute.org/]the Family Rights Group [https://frg.org.uk/] and the North East Young Dads and Lads Group. [https://www.neydl.uk/] Questions are asked by Gillian MacFarlane, content editor, Community Care Inform Children. See omnystudio.com/listener [https://omnystudio.com/listener] for privacy information.