More Than 10 Words

Using Humor to Survive Changed How He Practices Law. w/ Ben White

Long before he learned how to practice law, humor was how he survived. In this conversation, Ben talks about growing up shy and learning to use humor as a way to navigate rooms, relationships, and uncertainty. What started as a protective instinct — making people laugh to stay connected — slowly became a skill he carried with him into adulthood. Over time, that instinct shaped the kind of lawyer he became. Not by sharpening arguments, but by reading people, earning trust, and knowing when to bring levity into moments that didn’t need more pressure. This isn’t a story about stand-up comedy or legal strategy. It’s about how humor, learned early as a survival tool, quietly became one of the most important reasons he’s good at what he does.

Adopting Dogs Gave Her Safety to Grow Her Business w/ Jamie Christensen

Jamie Christensen spent 28 years in what she calls her own “war zone” — an abusive marriage that began when she was 18. When she finally left, she didn’t just walk away — she activated her entire ProVisors team to help her rebuild her life, from her divorce to her finances to her future. At the center of her healing were her rescue dogs, especially Frank, who once tried to break through a wall to protect her. After Jamie left her husband, Frank’s anxiety disappeared — because, as a friend told her, “he knows you’re safe.” That safety changed everything. In just seven months, Jamie became a first-time homeowner, adopted two more dogs, kept leading ProVisors Dallas 5, and tripled her business. This episode is about how finding safety — sometimes through the things we adopt — gives us the freedom to finally grow.

Growing Up Without a Safety Net & Learning to Stand for What’s Right w/ Dave Mclaren

After losing his sister to cancer, his father to abandonment, and his mother to addiction, Dave McLaren grew up without stability, protection, or a safety net. By his mid-teens, he was living out of his car — navigating life without financial support, guidance, or a backup plan. In this episode of More Than 10 Words, Dave shares what it meant to grow up fast in a world where survival often pushed people toward choices with lifelong consequences. Caught in what he calls the “16 to 18 age purgatory,” he watched the people around him turn to crime just to get by — and made a defining decision early on: doing the wrong thing was never an option. This conversation explores how growing up without a safety net shaped Dave’s sense of responsibility, integrity, and purpose — and how having no Plan B became the foundation for a life built on doing the right thing and fighting for people who can’t fight for themselves. This is a story about how success can emerge when integrity, belief, and having nowhere else to go become the only path forward.

When Growing Up Without Answers Teaches You to Protect What Matters Most W/ Rod Hatley

Some people grow up with answers. Others grow up with silence. In this episode, Rod Hatley shares what it’s like to grow up without explanations — without contact, without closure, without the chance to ask why. He reflects on how absence shapes trust, how early experiences linger, and how those unanswered questions quietly influence the way we show up for others. What emerges isn’t regret — it’s intention. A commitment to protect what matters. To help families avoid confusion and delay. To turn what was missing into care, presence, and partnership. This isn’t about fixing the past. It’s about choosing what to safeguard now.

Turning Life’s Chaos Into Your Best Business Partner W/ Cindy Flynn

Life doesn’t always follow the plan — sometimes it unravels right in front of you. But what if the chaos you’re trying to escape is actually the thing shaping you into a better leader? In this episode of More Than 10 Words, Cindy Flynn shares how family struggles, unexpected detours, and a firm-wide walkout turned into lessons that built a stronger business than she could have ever planned. Her story proves that when you stop resisting chaos and start learning from it, it becomes your greatest business partner.