More Than A Brand: CX Podcast
Lindsay Tramel-Jones explains that when a service business grows, client churn often comes from a missing relationship standard—not a skills problem—because team members default to their own client style when expectations aren’t explicit. She describes how an original hire may deliver 80–85% of the founder’s standard by proximity, a middle hire 60–70% through partial observation and SOPs, and a newest hire 40–50% by relying on personal instincts, creating inconsistent client experiences that clients notice before the CEO does. She notes research that clients leave due to feeling unappreciated (68%), perceived indifference (34%), and inconsistent experience (18%). Addressing veteran-owned businesses, she distinguishes operational excellence from relational consistency and argues a standard is not a script: define what great looks like while letting each team member deliver it through their strengths. She invites listeners to assess gaps with the free Flow Lab tool and apply to Flow Tribe to build the standard together. 00:00 Episode Setup 00:26 Show Intro 01:06 When Standards Drift 03:19 Founder Standard Problem 04:35 Ops vs Relationship 06:17 Standard Gets Diluted 07:44 Three Team Versions 08:02 OG Hire Strength 09:38 Middle Hire Gap 10:50 Newest Hire Reality 12:21 Veteran Founder Pushback 13:18 Script vs Standard 14:37 Build Like a Unit 16:29 One Question Close 17:40 Free Tools and CTA 18:14 Final Outro RESOURCES TO GET STARTED Start FlowLab free — Relationship Health Assessment [https://flowlab.fierceified.agency/]: Apply for FlowTribe [https://fierceified.agency/flowtribe-team-client-relationship-training]: Book a discovery call [calendar.app.google/jyFb4Th5UDtoznMv5] calendar.app.google/jyFb4Th5UDtoznMv5 Book [https://iamltj.com/]Lindsay For a Keynote Mentioned in this episode: FlowTribe Team Engagement 68% of clients leave service businesses not because of price or a competitor — because they felt unappreciated. That is not a marketing problem. That is a relationship problem. And it almost always lives in how your team shows up when you are not in the room. FlowTribe is the two-week team engagement Lindsay Tramel-Jones built to fix that. Not a course. Not coaching for the CEO. A facilitated engagement for your whole team — using your FlowLab data to diagnose exactly where the client relationship is breaking down, train the team to build a stronger standard, and assign clear ownership to every touchpoint. By the time FlowTribe ends, your team knows how to build the client relationship without you in every conversation. Applications are open. Founding client spots are available at a reduced investment. Go to Flowtribe.co to apply.
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