PR Explored: The Podcast for Public Relations and Communications Pros
In this episode of PR Explored, host Michelle Garrett, a PR consultant, author, and writer talks with her guest crisis communications expert Shawna Bruce, who shares her 40-year communications background, including 25+ years in military public affairs, work at Dow Chemical, and her current focus (since 2018) on training organizations to prepare for crises. They discuss why crisis communications is now operational infrastructure, how to anticipate risks by studying incidents in your sector, and the importance of preparation, practice, reviews, succession planning, and internal coordination. Bruce emphasizes message maps, fast approvals (including pre-approved holding statements), using owned media as a crisis hub, and having backups/shadows and realistic exercises ranging from lunch-and-learns to multi-day shift-based drills. They address AI-driven misinformation, the need for trusted official channels, careful use of AI for planning (not unsupervised response), and how trust is tested and reinforced during crises rather than built from scratch. 00:00 Welcome and Introductions 01:57 Shauna’s Crisis Background 04:46 Preparation Over Parachuting 06:01 Why Crisis Comms Matters Now 09:33 Anticipating Risks by Sector 14:07 Comms as Part of Response 17:04 Air Canada Language Lesson 21:34 How to Practice Crisis Drills 29:09 Small Business Crisis Basics 33:23 Preapproved Holding Statements 35:35 Trust and Cadence in Crisis 38:02 Internal Comms Ripple Effects 40:20 Track Issues Before Crisis 41:20 AI Misinformation Reality 43:36 Own Your Channels 50:59 Build Trust With Humanity 52:36 AI For Planning Not Response 57:10 When Everything Feels Crisis 58:57 Educate Leaders And Triage 01:05:18 Preparedness Resources Wrap Show notes: Follow Shawna Bruce on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shawnabruce/ Visit Shawna Bruce’s site: https://www.mdbruceandassociates.com/ Follow the host: Website: www.michellegarrett.com [http://www.michellegarrett.com/] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/prstrategist/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/prstrategist/] YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@PRisUs [https://www.youtube.com/@PRisUs] X/Twitter: https://x.com/PRisUs Threads: https://www.threads.com/@prwritergal Michelle's book - B2B PR That Gets Results - is available now [https://michellegarrett.com/b2b-pr-book/] Book a no-obligation call to talk about your needs here [https://calendly.com/michellegarrett/30-minute-call-to-chat-about-your-pr-needs]. About the host: Michelle Garrett is a B2B PR consultant, media relations consultant, writer and author of B2B PR That Gets Results [https://michellegarrett.com/b2b-pr-book/], an Amazon Best Seller. She helps companies create content, earn media coverage, and position themselves as thought leaders in their industry. Michelle’s articles have been featured by Entrepreneur, Content Marketing Institute, Muck Rack, and Ragan’s PR Daily, among others. She’s a frequent speaker and podcast guest on public relations and content. Michelle has been repeatedly ranked among the top ten most influential PR professionals. [https://www.cision.com/resources/articles/pr-experts-influencers/]
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