Rehab Remix: Reimagining Boundaries

Managing Provider and Payer Perspectives with Stephen Kinsley, Senior Vice President of Payor Strategy at Ivy Rehab | Rehab Remix S2 E1

Rehab Remix - Managing Provider and Payer Perspectives with Stephen Kinsley In this episode of #RehabRemix: Reimagining Boundaries, my discussion is with someone who has deep experience on both the provider and payer side of healthcare, and definitely the first in our series to address the Payer perspective. Stephen Kinsley, now with Ivy Rehab as their Head of Payer Strategy, spent many years in various leadership roles at SCA Health, a major arm of Optum Health in recent years. Stephen's energy and passion around everything he does is contagious. His unique experience with knowledge of both provider and payer, make him a valuable asset to our industry as we try to balance our approaches towards accountable patient-centered care. Stephen explains how payer-provider relationships have evolved from transactional contracting to deeper dialogue focused on value, and outlines nuances across the segments. As Stephen so simply puts it - it's all about the patient. In his words, "it comes down to the patient's journey and his or her care, and I think sometimes we let other things get in the way of that." By prioritizing the patient's journey, we can better control healthcare spending while ensuring patients remain engaged on their healing journeys. "We all want the same thing!" Stephen has a great way of categorizing us as patients; "you got your seniors, you got your everyday workforce, and the individuals that are unfortunate to get injured on the job". Which then led us to discussing the role of PT in Workers' Compensation, a great segment to realize near-term value by leveraging data-driven care. 00:00 Welcome to Rehab Remix 00:33 Meet Stephen Kinsley 01:55 Stephen's Career Journey 03:10 How Payers View PT 04:35 Payer Types Explained 06:38 Hybrid Rehab Goes Mainstream 09:24 Value Based Care in PT 14:04 RTM Beyond Reimbursement 16:39 Burnout and Productivity Pressures 18:47 Point Solutions and Employers 21:32 Where Tech Makes Impact 26:24 Rapid Fire and Wrap Up Where to find Stephen: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephen-kinsley-bb377a14/ Where to find Rohit: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nayakr [https://www.linkedin.com/in/nayakr] Band Connect LinkedIn: https://lnkd.in/gGSFsPCg [https://lnkd.in/gGSFsPCg] Website: http://www.bandconnect.net [http://www.bandconnect.net/] Tune in here for practical insights, real-world examples and a glimpse into where rehab is headed: https://bandconnect.net/rehabremix/ [https://bandconnect.net/rehabremix/] #HybridTherapy #PhysicalTherapy #OrthopedicRehab #EvidenceBased #HealthTech #MedTech #DigitalHealth #Musculoskeletal

Transforming Injury Rehab with Brent Williams | Rehab Remix S1 E7

Rehab Remix - Transforming Injury Rehab with Brent Williams Welcome to Rehab Remix Reimagining Boundaries, hosted by Rohit Nayak, co-founder of Band Connect. In this episode, Rohit speaks with Brent Williams, CEO of Complete Care, a growing injury care delivery organization. In this episode of 'Reimagining Boundaries,' they delve into the future of orthopedic rehab within the scope of clinical innovation and connected health. Highlighting the importance of function over pain in rehab programs, Brent highlights the goals of Complete Care 2034. The discussion explores the impact of AI in healthcare, including the potential risks and benefits. They also address the economic inefficiencies in the current healthcare system and the promising role of value-based care, particularly for physical medicine. Join us as we uncover groundbreaking ideas that could revolutionize the quality of life for millions. 00:33 Introducing Brent Williams 01:43 Brent's Journey from Sports Medicine to Complete Care 07:45 Complete Care 2034 Vision 10:18 The Importance of Objective Data in Rehab 13:47 Value-Based Care and Personal Injury Protection 19:18 Musculoskeletal Care and Primary Care Integration 22:47 The Future of Hybrid Rehab 26:20 Trends and Innovations in Healthcare 37:04 Challenges and Opportunities in Musculoskeletal Care Where to find Brent: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brent-williams-4691ba4/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/brent-williams-4691ba4/] Where to find Rohit: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nayakr [https://www.linkedin.com/in/nayakr] Band Connect LinkedIn: https://lnkd.in/gGSFsPCg [https://lnkd.in/gGSFsPCg] Website: http://www.bandconnect.net [http://www.bandconnect.net/] Tune in here for practical insights, real-world examples and a glimpse into where rehab is headed: https://bandconnect.net/rehabremix/ [https://bandconnect.net/rehabremix/] #HybridTherapy #PhysicalTherapy #OrthopedicRehab #EvidenceBased #HealthTech #MedTech #DigitalHealth #Musculoskeletal

Taking the Lab to the Clinic: Perspectives from Chuck Thigpen | Rehab Remix S1 E6

Rehab Remix - Taking the Lab to the Clinic: Perspectives from Chuck Thigpen Welcome to Rehab Remix Reimagining Boundaries, hosted by Rohit Nayak, co-founder of Band Connect. In this episode, Rohit speaks with Dr. Charles Thigpen, Chief Clinical and Strategy Officer at ATI Physical Therapy. They delve into Dr. Thigpen's extensive career in physical therapy, the role of clinical innovation, and the impact of connected health on orthopedic rehab. Dr. Thigpen shares his journey from academia to industry, his experiences in blending process engineering with clinical care, and the importance of leveraging data to improve patient outcomes. They discuss the evolving care delivery models, the significance of early PT interventions, and the integration of technology in physical therapy practices. Key topics also include the challenges and opportunities in value-based care, addressing PT burnout, and the vision for the future of musculoskeletal healthcare. 00:00 Introduction to Rehab Remix 02:05 Chuck's Journey in Physical Therapy 05:31 Building a Clinical Research Lab 10:40 Innovations in Care Delivery 18:21 Challenges and Opportunities in PT 23:17 Defining Value in Physical Therapy 25:30 Challenges in Value-Based Care 31:57 Technology in Physical Therapy 42:52 Rapid Fire Questions and Final Thoughts Where to find Chuck: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuck-thigpen-30324425/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuck-thigpen-30324425/] Where to find Rohit: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nayakr [https://www.linkedin.com/in/nayakr] Band Connect LinkedIn: https://lnkd.in/gGSFsPCg [https://lnkd.in/gGSFsPCg] Website: http://www.bandconnect.net [http://www.bandconnect.net/] Tune in here for practical insights, real-world examples and a glimpse into where rehab is headed: https://bandconnect.net/rehabremix/ [https://bandconnect.net/rehabremix/] #HybridTherapy #PhysicalTherapy #OrthopedicRehab #EvidenceBased #HealthTech #MedTech #DigitalHealth #Musculoskeletal

Innovations in Sports Physical Therapy with Brent Pekarski | Rehab Remix S1 E5

Rehab Remix: Innovations in Sports Physical Therapy with Brent Pekarski Welcome to 'Rehab Remix Reimagining Boundaries,' a podcast that delves into the future of orthopedic rehabilitation through clinical innovation and digital health. Hosted by Rohit Nayak, co-founder of Band Connect, this episode features Brent Pekarski, a board-certified clinical specialist in sports physical therapy and Director of Physical Therapy at Druzinsky Sports Medicine Institute. Brent shares his journey in the rehab world, discusses his engagement with youth athletes, and elaborates on the integration of technology into physical therapy. Key topics include the hybrid care model, telehealth, remote therapeutic monitoring, and the importance of objective data. Tune in for an in-depth conversation on overcoming current challenges in rehab and the future directions of sports medicine. 00:30 Meet Brent Pekarski: A Journey in Sports Physical Therapy 04:19 The Evolution of Hybrid Care Models 04:40 Telehealth and Remote Therapeutic Monitoring 08:12 Patient Engagement and Compliance 10:57 Innovations in Sports Medicine 15:14 Challenges and Overhyped Technologies 17:08 The Haslam Sports Innovation Institute 21:27 Objective Data in Rehab 25:45 Rapid Fire Questions and Closing Thoughts Where to find Brent: LinkedIn: https://lnkd.in/gDjAF3Zchttps://www.linkedin.com/in/brent-pekarski-478862115/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/brent-pekarski-478862115/] Where to find Rohit: LinkedIn: https://lnkd.in/gFP5wvrshttps://www.linkedin.com/in/nayakr [https://www.linkedin.com/in/nayakr] Band Connect LinkedIn: https://lnkd.in/gGSFsPCg [https://lnkd.in/gGSFsPCg] Website: http://www.bandconnect.net [http://www.bandconnect.net/] Tune in here for practical insights, real-world examples and a glimpse into where rehab is headed: https://bandconnect.net/rehabremix/ #HybridTherapy #PhysicalTherapy #OrthopedicRehab #EvidenceBased #HealthTech #MedTech #DigitalHealth #Musculoskeletal

A Conversation with Simon Hoehn | Rehab Remix S1 E4

Our next episode of Rehab Remix: Reimagining Boundaries features Simon Hoehn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/simon-hoehn-25136522/]. Simon is the Director of Physical Therapy at Aptiva Health [https://www.linkedin.com/company/aptiva-health/], a Louisville based multi-disciplinary orthopedic care and rehab provider. I first connected with Simon through a spine surgeon working at Aptiva. Our interactions demonstrated Simon's passion and purpose-driven approach for what he and Aptiva are doing for orthopedic care and rehab. Our podcast discussion does not disappoint. His first introduction to Physical Therapy started as an athlete, which soon became his professional focus through his training at Washington University in St. Louis. He coached D1 Football and even had stints as an Executive Coach. Simon brings a unique perspective to the PT profession. He emphasizes individualized care over maximizing insurance approved visits. You'll find him a strong advocate for hybrid models that blend in-clinic and at-home care, leveraging technology (like AI and remote monitoring) to empower patients, track progress, and improve outcomes. He stresses the importance of patient engagement and accountability both inside and outside the clinic. Simon's experience as an executive coach informs his leadership style. He believes in empowering staff, reducing burnout by keeping focus on the purpose of therapy, and building a legacy of meaningful work. He acknowledges the challenges clinicians face in adopting new technologies and approaches, emphasizing the need for training, mindset shifts, and supportive accountability rather than punitive measures. He wants the field of physical therapy to be recognized for its expertise in movement science, not just as a place for routine exercises or maintenance, but as specialists in diagnosing and correcting dysfunctional movement patterns. 00:00 — Introduction to Rehab Remix 01:35 — Simon's Background and Journey to PT 04:52 — Coaching Experience 07:32 — Clinical Philosophy and Patient-Centered Care 09:36 — Hybrid Care and Technology Integration 12:35 — Value-Based Care and Personal Injury Protection 16:42 — Remote Therapeutic Monitoring and Implementation Challenges 27:30 — Wrap-up and Closing Thoughts Where to find Simon: * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/simon-hoehn-25136522/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/simon-hoehn-25136522/] Where to find Rohit: * LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/nayakr [http://www.linkedin.com/in/nayakr] * Band Connect LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/band-connect/ [https://www.linkedin.com/company/band-connect/] * Website: http://www.bandconnect.net [http://www.bandconnect.net/] The Rehab Remix podcast is brought to you by Band Connect Inc. You can listen to the podcast on Apple Podcast [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/rehab-remix-reimagining-boundaries/id1813420427], Spotify [https://open.spotify.com/show/45bPTDQrdgnADaOEy3txks?si=cLXoS4X2Q3W50dtf6gIWIQ&nd=1&dlsi=4854eb441dd344f0] and watch on YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/@RehabRemix].