The Aerospace Executive Podcast

VSE Corporation: The Hottest Stock in Aerospace w/ John Cuomo [Replay]

Most people think turning around a 60-year-old public company is about cost cuts, headcount reductions, and financial engineering. But real transformation doesn’t start on the income statement. It starts when you realize the house you just bought, the one on the great street, in the great neighborhood, with decades of history, isn’t a light renovation, you have to tear it down to the studs. That’s the reality of turning around a legacy business. When John Cuomo stepped into the CEO role at VSE Corporation, he inherited a 60-year-old company that was overly diversified, culturally hierarchical, and strategically unfocused. Most leaders would have protected what was there, instead, John simplified.  He divested non-core assets. He focused the company almost entirely around aerospace. He reshaped the executive team. He flattened the organization. He made cultural fit, not just performance a gating factor for leadership. And he rebuilt the business around an OEM-centric aftermarket strategy, choosing partnership over short-term arbitrage. The result: over five years, VSE’s market cap grew from roughly $300 million to over $3 billion. In this special replay episode, I sat down with John to unpack what it really means to take a 60-year-old company down to the studs, and rebuild it for the next 60. You’ll also learn: -Why tearing a company “down to the studs” can be the only way to unlock long-term value -How simplifying a diversified structure accelerated growth instead of limiting it -Why VSE avoids PMA and stays tightly aligned with OEM partners -How to evaluate acquisitions beyond financials, and why cultural fit is non-negotiable -What most executives misunderstand about integration versus portfolio management -How to scale without losing nimbleness and execution speed -The real risks in today’s aftermarket M&A environment and why “everything shiny” isn’t always valuable -Why presence, not policy, is the foundation of empowerment and execution   About the Guest John Cuomo is the President and CEO of VSE Corporation. Appointed Chief Executive Officer in 2019,  he brings 21 years of experience in distribution and the aftermarket services industry. John previously served as Vice President and General Manager of Boeing Distribution Services Inc. Before Boeing's 2018 acquisition of the Aerospace Solutions Group of KLX Inc., John served as its President and General Manager (since 2014). From 2000 to 2014, John served in multiple roles and functions at B/E Aerospace (parent company of KLX, Inc. until 2014), including Vice President & General Manager and Senior Vice President, Global Sales, Marketing & Business Development. Before joining B/E Aerospace, John served as an attorney at a large multinational law firm practicing commercial law, mergers and acquisitions, and litigation. Connect with John on LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-cuomo-28528412/].  About Your Host Craig Picken is an Executive Recruiter, writer, speaker, and ICF Trained Executive Coach. He is focused on recruiting senior-level leadership, sales, and operations executives in the aviation and aerospace industry. His clients include premier OEMs, aircraft operators, leasing/financial organizations, and Maintenance/Repair/Overhaul (MRO) providers, and since 2008, he has personally concluded more than 400 executive-level searches in a variety of disciplines. Craig is the ONLY industry executive recruiter who has professionally flown airplanes, sold airplanes, and successfully run a P&L in the aviation industry. His professional career started with a passion for airplanes. After eight years’ experience as a decorated Naval Flight Officer – with more than 100 combat missions, 2,000 hours of flight time, and 325 aircraft carrier landings – Craig sought challenges in business aviation, where he spent more than 7 years in sales with both Gulfstream Aircraft and Bombardier Business Aircraft. Craig is also a sought-after industry speaker who has presented at Corporate Jet Investor, International Aviation Women’s Association, and SOCAL Aviation Association.    Podcast CTA Check out this episode on our website [https://aerospaceexecutive.podbean.com/], Apple Podcasts [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-aerospace-executive-podcast/id1353891134/], or Spotify [https://open.spotify.com/show/4yFXeO6eiYQTSDEtlQ2K6x?si=61d6b2bd825c4ed1/], and don't forget to leave a review if you like what you heard. Your review feeds the algorithm, so our show reaches more people. Thank you!

The Laminar Flow Breakthrough Changing Business Aviation w/ Paul Touw

For decades, business aviation has advanced in careful, incremental steps. Better avionics, quieter cabins, and marginal fuel improvements. But true aerodynamic breakthroughs are rare, generational, even. In this highlight from a previous episode of The Aerospace Executive Podcast, we revisit a conversation with Paul Touw, CEO of Otto Aviation, about what may be the most significant leap in private jet design since the high-bypass turbofan. At the center of Otto’s aircraft is something aviation has pursued for decades but struggled to control: true laminar flow across both wing and fuselage. The implications are profound.  For business aviation, this means lower operating costs, longer range at lower fuel burn, and the potential to dramatically expand who can afford to fly private. Paul shares how this technology reshapes aircraft economics, how Otto is de-risking certification, and why operators are already placing multibillion-dollar bets.   You’ll also learn;  * Why laminar flow remained theoretical for decades and what finally made it practical * How flying higher unlocks efficiency that traditional jets simply can’t achieve * Why stealth-era manufacturing and modern computing were the missing pieces What a 50% reduction in fuel burn means for operating cost, maintenance, and market expansion * How supplier confidence and Flexjet’s multibillion-dollar order validate the program * Why clean-sheet aircraft design has been rare, and why Otto believes the timing is now About the Guest Paul Touw is an engineer, entrepreneur, and CEO of Otto Aviation. The Otto Aerospace Phantom 3500 is a masterpiece of engineering, utilizing groundbreaking laminar flow technology, digital design tools, and modern manufacturing techniques to achieve unparalleled efficiency, luxury, and environmental stewardship. Designed for leaders, visionaries, and innovators, the Phantom 3500 sets a new standard in private jet flight where performance and sustainability exist in perfect harmony. To learn more, head to https://ottoaerospace.com/ [https://ottoaerospace.com/] or connect with Paul on LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-touw-6445b734/].    About Your Host Craig Picken is an Executive Recruiter, writer, speaker, and ICF Trained Executive Coach. He is focused on recruiting senior-level leadership, sales, and operations executives in the aviation and aerospace industry. His clients include premier OEMs, aircraft operators, leasing/financial organizations, and Maintenance/Repair/Overhaul (MRO) providers, and since 2008, he has personally concluded more than 400 executive-level searches in a variety of disciplines. Craig is the ONLY industry executive recruiter who has professionally flown airplanes, sold airplanes, and successfully run a P&L in the aviation industry. His professional career started with a passion for airplanes. After eight years’ experience as a decorated Naval Flight Officer – with more than 100 combat missions, 2,000 hours of flight time, and 325 aircraft carrier landings – Craig sought challenges in business aviation, where he spent more than 7 years in sales with both Gulfstream Aircraft and Bombardier Business Aircraft. Craig is also a sought-after industry speaker who has presented at Corporate Jet Investor, International Aviation Women’s Association, and SOCAL Aviation Association.    For more aerospace industry news & commentary: https://craigpicken.com/insights/ [https://craigpicken.com/insights/].  To learn more about Craig Picken, visit https://craigpicken.com/ [https://craigpicken.com/].

India: Aerospace’s Next Manufacturing Powerhouse w/ Vishal Sanghavi

In aerospace and defense, a structural shift in global manufacturing is underway. Supply chains are strained, skilled labor is scarce, and production backlogs are testing relationships between OEMs and suppliers across the globe. So the industry is being forced to look for answers in new places. One of those places is India.  What started as an engineering and software hub is rapidly becoming something much larger.  A manufacturing powerhouse capable of delivering aerospace-grade quality, advanced digital operations, and the scale required to support global demand. In this highlight episode, I revisit my conversation with the co-founder and CEO of Jeh Aerospace, Vishal Sanghavi.  He explains why major suppliers are moving work to India, how credibility is earned with Western customers, and why the opportunity ahead is bigger than a simple cost advantage. You’ll also learn: * Why labor shortages in the U.S. are accelerating permanent shifts in manufacturing geography * How pairing India’s talent base with modern digital infrastructure changes what suppliers can deliver * What it takes to overcome skepticism and prove reliability to Western aerospace customers * Why the companies that win will think beyond arbitrage and build technology leverage * How India’s momentum could reshape the global supplier map for decades * Why, with market demand, policy movement, and geopolitics aligning, the window of opportunity is now   About the Guest Vishal R. Sanghavi is the co-founder & CEO of Jeh Aerospace. He has been a leader in the aerospace and defense (A&D) industry for nearly two decades. He co-founded Jeh Aerospace in 2022 with his long-time colleague Venkatesh Mudragalla. This US-based company manufactures aerospace and defense components to address the industry's global supply chain constraints. Vishal is on a mission to transform aerospace manufacturing by harnessing the power of advanced technologies like robotic automation, AI, and AR/VR, and leveraging the vast talent pool of countries like India through friend-shoring. He is building Jeh Aerospace into a new-age technology-driven manufacturing company that will deliver stringent-quality flying parts 10x faster, better, and cheaper. Vishal’s entrepreneurial journey began at the renowned Tata Group, where he built and led large multimillion-dollar businesses and became one of the youngest CXOs for the group. He spearheaded numerous aerospace businesses during his tenure, including the Tata Boeing Joint Venture (JV), Tata Sikorsky JV, and Tata Lockheed JV, which manufacture large, complex aerospace systems. To learn more, visit https://jeh.aero/ [https://jeh.aero/].    About Your Host Craig Picken is an Executive Recruiter, writer, speaker, and ICF Trained Executive Coach. He is focused on recruiting senior-level leadership, sales, and operations executives in the aviation and aerospace industry. His clients include premier OEMs, aircraft operators, leasing/financial organizations, and Maintenance/Repair/Overhaul (MRO) providers, and since 2008, he has personally concluded more than 400 executive-level searches in a variety of disciplines. Craig is the ONLY industry executive recruiter who has professionally flown airplanes, sold airplanes, and successfully run a P&L in the aviation industry. His professional career started with a passion for airplanes. After eight years’ experience as a decorated Naval Flight Officer – with more than 100 combat missions, 2,000 hours of flight time, and 325 aircraft carrier landings – Craig sought challenges in business aviation, where he spent more than 7 years in sales with both Gulfstream Aircraft and Bombardier Business Aircraft. Craig is also a sought-after industry speaker who has presented at Corporate Jet Investor, International Aviation Women’s Association, and SOCAL Aviation Association.    For more aerospace industry news & commentary: https://craigpicken.com/insights/ [https://craigpicken.com/insights/].  To learn more about Craig Picken, visit https://craigpicken.com/ [https://craigpicken.com/].

Cosmic Land Grab: Inside the New Space Arms Race w/ Tory Bruno REPLAY

The new space race is beginning; It’s not just between nations, but between commercial giants, shadow governments, and emerging players staking claims to orbits that are becoming dangerously crowded. The world is entering an era where control of the orbits will define global power. What’s fueling this revolution isn’t just rocket science. It’s economic scale, exotic propellants, and a surge in miniaturized, high-functioning satellites. But with this explosion comes risk: orbital debris fields, collisions that could cripple constellations, and the looming specter of space warfare. In this replay episode of The Aerospace Executive Podcast, I’m joined by Tory Bruno. Formerly the CEO of United Launch Alliance and now President of Blue Origin, he brings an unmatched perspective on the forces reshaping access to space. We cover the radical shifts reshaping orbital real estate, why small launch companies are failing despite demand, and why directed energy weapons in space might be the future of global defense.   You’ll also learn: * Why the true space cost revolution isn’t in launch, but in satellite architecture * The hard truth about the “300% drop in launch prices” myth * How mini satellites are creating billion-dollar constellations and traffic jams in orbit * The quiet arms race: Anti-satellite weapons, Kessler syndrome, and debris fields that could end entire constellations * Why lasers may be the only real answer to hypersonic threats * Why methane propulsion is suddenly viable and what finally cracked the code * Why the biggest competitive edge isn’t rockets, it’s people     Guest Bio Tory Bruno is the President and CEO of United Launch Alliance (ULA), the largest rocket launch company in the world. Since taking the helm in August 2014, he has led ULA through a transformative era, retiring legacy systems, developing the next-generation Vulcan rocket, and expanding the company’s commercial and national security portfolio. Before ULA, Tory spent over three decades at Lockheed Martin, where he began his career as a propulsion engineer and steadily rose through the ranks to become a senior executive. He has deep expertise in advanced propulsion, hypersonics, missile defense, and launch systems, and is widely recognized as one of the aerospace industry’s most accomplished and forward-thinking leaders. Connect with Tory on LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/torybruno/]. About Your Host Craig Picken is an Executive Recruiter, writer, speaker and ICF Trained Executive Coach. He is focused on recruiting senior-level leadership, sales, and operations executives in the aviation and aerospace industry. His clients include premier OEMs, aircraft operators, leasing/financial organizations, and Maintenance/Repair/Overhaul (MRO) providers and since 2008, he has personally concluded more than 400 executive-level searches in a variety of disciplines. Craig is the ONLY industry executive recruiter who has professionally flown airplanes, sold airplanes, and successfully run a P&L in the aviation industry. His professional career started with a passion for airplanes. After eight years experience as a decorated Naval Flight Officer – with more than 100 combat missions, 2,000 hours of flight time, and 325 aircraft carrier landings – Craig sought challenges in business aviation, where he spent more than 7 years in sales with both Gulfstream Aircraft and Bombardier Business Aircraft. Craig is also a sought-after industry speaker who has presented at Corporate Jet Investor, International Aviation Women’s Association, and SOCAL Aviation Association.     Resources For more aerospace industry news & commentary: https://craigpicken.com/insights/ [https://craigpicken.com/insights/].  To learn more about Craig Picken, visit https://craigpicken.com/ [https://craigpicken.com/].

Every A&D Sector Is Up, Here’s Why That Matters w/ Bill Alderman & Ryan Kirby

Most people think a “hot” M&A market means: inflated prices, reckless buyers, and deals that will eventually fall apart. That’s not what we’re seeing in aerospace and defense right now. What we’re watching instead is something far more unusual and powerful. Every major segment of the industry is firing at once. Defense, commercial aviation, business jets, and space are all growing simultaneously.  The companies coming to market aren’t missing forecasts; they’re beating them. Buyers aren’t walking away when things get hard. They’re leaning in, working through issues that used to kill deals, because they know something fundamental has changed. This is not a fragile bubble. It’s a structural shift. Capacity is the new currency. The players who survived COVID are full, booked, and unable to meet demand. Strategic buyers are no longer just chasing IP; they’re buying throughput, people, certifications, and physical capabilities.  At the same time, private equity has specialized at a level we’ve never seen before, building aerospace-only platforms that can compete head-to-head with strategics. The middle market, once an “hourglass” with little depth, is filling in fast. And when you zoom out, the macro picture makes it even more obvious. Public aerospace and defense companies are trading at premiums to the broader market. Commercial launches into orbit are compounding at extraordinary rates. Aircraft production is rising sharply, engine backlogs stretch for years, and defense spending remains structurally elevated.  And across all of it, the barriers to entry have created enormous moats that protect the entire ecosystem. In this episode, I sit down again with Bill Alderman and Ryan Kirby from Alderman & Co to unpack what’s really happening inside the middle-market aerospace and defense deal environment, and why, for the first time in decades, every major segment is moving in the same direction.   You’ll also learn; * Why “high prices” don’t mean a fragile market, and what actually signals stability * How capacity has replaced IP as the most valuable acquisition driver Why deals that once died in diligence are now getting done * What’s changed in private equity’s role in aerospace and defense * How the middle market is reshaping the industry’s “hourglass” structure * The data behind the explosive growth in space launches and aircraft production * Why public market multiples confirm (not contradict) the M&A environment * How pure-play spin-offs and carve-outs may redefine the next wave of consolidation * The hidden risk facing the defense industrial base: labor, not demand * Why the biggest threat to the market isn’t visible yet, and what “Black Swan” really means for M&A   About the Guests William H. Alderman (Bill) is the Founding Partner of Alderman & Company. Bill is an M&A specialist in the middle market of the aerospace and defense industry with over $2 billion in mergers and acquisition-related transactions to his name. Before founding Alderman & Company in 2001, Bill worked for 15 years on Wall Street and in the Aerospace & Defense Industry, principally on M&A transactions in the middle market. His employers included BT Securities, Fieldstone, and General Electric. Bill is a Securities Principal registered with the Financial Industry Regulatory Authority (“FINRA”) and has four securities industry licenses (Series 7, 24, 63, and 65). Bill is a commercial pilot and owns and operates a Cirrus SR22. * URL Link: https://www.aldermanco.com/ [https://www.aldermanco.com/] * LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/williamalderman/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/williamalderman/]   Ryan Kirby has penultimate authority and responsibility for the overall management of Alderman & Company, including all client engagements and the management of firm personnel. Before becoming a partner of the firm, Ryan rose through the ranks from Associate to Vice President and has extensive hands-on experience in all aspects of the sale process, valuations, and fairness opinions. Ryan has specialized in the Aerospace, Defense, and Space industries stemming from his education and previous work experience. Ryan completed his BS in Business Administration, concentrating in Accounting and Finance at Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University. He went on to complete his MBA at Embry-Riddle, concentrating in Finance, graduating summa cum laude and with a 4.0 GPA. Previously, Ryan completed a project funded by NASA, which built a finance and business case for the mitigation of space debris in lower earth orbit. Additionally, his work has included analyzing the development of the urban air mobility industry and the funding that accelerated its growth, and the use case of sustainable aviation fuel in business aviation. Ryan has previous work experience in Financial Planning and Analysis. Ryan joined the Alderman & Company team as an intern during his graduate years at Embry-Riddle. Upon graduation, he joined the firm as an Associate and was promoted to Vice President in 2022.  * Email: https://www.aldermanco.com/rk@aldermanco.com [rk@aldermanco.com] * Phone: 368-664-864 * LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-kirby-880875174 [https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-kirby-880875174]    About Your Host Craig Picken is an Executive Recruiter, writer, speaker, and ICF Trained Executive Coach. He is focused on recruiting senior-level leadership, sales, and operations executives in the aviation and aerospace industry. His clients include premier OEMs, aircraft operators, leasing/financial organizations, and Maintenance/Repair/Overhaul (MRO) providers, and since 2008, he has personally concluded more than 400 executive-level searches in a variety of disciplines. Craig is the ONLY industry executive recruiter who has professionally flown airplanes, sold airplanes, and successfully run a P&L in the aviation industry. His professional career started with a passion for airplanes. After eight years’ experience as a decorated Naval Flight Officer – with more than 100 combat missions, 2,000 hours of flight time, and 325 aircraft carrier landings – Craig sought challenges in business aviation, where he spent more than 7 years in sales with both Gulfstream Aircraft and Bombardier Business Aircraft. Craig is also a sought-after industry speaker who has presented at Corporate Jet Investor, International Aviation Women’s Association, and SOCAL Aviation Association.