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The ROI of a Lightbulb: Rethinking AI and Leadership, with Mark Schaefer

41 min · 8 de jun de 2026
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Strip the humanity out of your business to cut costs and you don't get a leaner company. You get a worse one.   Mark Schaefer, marketing futurist, author of 12 books and the man behind the blog GROW, joins Martin Wheatley to talk about the part of the AI conversation almost nobody is having: not how we use AI, but how our customers are starting to.   We get into: ✳️ Why protecting your brand's DNA matters more as AI spreads, and how "humanity as a luxury" could become a genuine point of difference ✳️ Cognitive offloading vs cognitive surrender, and the MIT study where 73% of people accepted a wrong answer from AI ✳️ The single thing Mark thinks leaders get most wrong (it involves trying to prove the ROI of a twenty-pound subscription) ✳️ Why smaller businesses may be better placed to get this right than the giants ✳️ Markbot, the free AI clone Mark built from 16 years of his own work   Whether you're weighing up where AI fits in your business or trying to bring your people with you rather than past them, there's plenty here to sit with.   Connect with Mark: LinkedIn: Linkedinlinkedin.com/in/markwschaefer [http://Linkedinlinkedin.com/in/markwschaefer] Website: BusinessesgrowMarketing Keynote Speaker, Strategy Consultant, and Author | Mark Schaefer [https://businessesgrow.com/]   Mark's books mentioned on the show: How AI Changes Your Customers: The Marketing Guide to Humanity's Next Chapter [https://amzn.to/43RSjlN] Audacious: How Humans Win in an AI Marketing World [https://amzn.to/4g6Yr0R] Known: The Handbook for Building and Unleashing Your Personal Brand in the Digital Age [https://amzn.to/4obHcxo]   Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction 02:12 Mark Schaefer: A Journey Through AI and Marketing 03:47 The Psychology of AI and Its Impact on Humanity 06:27 Cognitive Offloading: The New Norm? 09:08 Relationships with AI: A New Frontier 11:05 AI in Therapy: A Double-Edged Sword 13:26 Human Connection in an AI World 13:56 The Backlash Against AI 16:48 Balancing AI Implementation and Human Touch 20:16 Creating a Custom AI: Markbot Experiment 21:40 Scaling Mentorship and Leadership Tools 24:26 The Three Pillars of AI Strategy 30:09 Transcendent Content and Personal Experience 31:55 Challenges in AI Adoption for Leaders 34:54 Key Takeaways for AI and Leadership     Get your copy of the Multiply Method ✖️ It's a FREE roadmap walking you through how to multiply the capabilities of your people and your business with AI. www.theaileaderlab.com/roadmap [http://www.theaileaderlab.com/roadmap]   Connect with Martin: Websites: www.theaileaderlab.com [http://www.theaileaderlab.com] LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/martinjwheatley [http://www.linkedin.com/in/martinjwheatley] Subscribe to The Frontier Leader Show wherever you listen to podcasts.

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episode The ROI of a Lightbulb: Rethinking AI and Leadership, with Mark Schaefer artwork

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