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The Payments Shed

Podcast de Grant Evans and Justin Hanna

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The Payments Shed is hosted by fintech leaders Grant Evans and Justin Hanna. With sharp insight and real-world experience, they cut through industry noise to unpack the future of payments, fintech, and commerce. From embedded finance to modern sales, it’s straight-talking, high-signal conversation from two of the most influential voices in the space.

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episode Ep. 71 - We Have A Meeting on Why Cold Calling Isn’t Dead: Sales, Social Media and Storytelling in 2026 artwork

Ep. 71 - We Have A Meeting on Why Cold Calling Isn’t Dead: Sales, Social Media and Storytelling in 2026

In this episode, hosts Grant Evans and Justin Hanna are joined by Jack Frimston and Zac Thompson, Co-Founders of We Have A Meeting, for a conversation on how modern sales is evolving far beyond traditional cold outreach. Jack and Zac share the story behind leaving the 9–5 world to build We Have A Meeting, the early realities of betting on themselves, and how they turned a fresh approach to sales into a growing brand, podcast, and community. The discussion explores why cold calling is far from dead, how buyer behaviour has changed in recent years, and why the best sales teams are now combining outbound, content, storytelling, and personal branding into one connected strategy. They also unpack the growing role of LinkedIn and social selling, why authenticity matters more than polished corporate messaging, and how content is increasingly becoming a core commercial lever rather than just a marketing exercise. Along the way, the conversation dives into their book Sales Is Therapy, the psychology behind modern selling, and what separates great sellers from transactional ones in 2026. From podcasting and audience-building to founder mindset and the future of outbound sales, this episode explores what the next generation of sales leadership really looks like. Plus, Jack and Zac step up for The Payments Shed’s legendary Shelf of Shame — calling out the sales trends and clichés they’d happily banish forever. *** The Payments Shed Podcast is headline sponsored by ISX Financial. ISX Financial, delivers a unified ecosystem with multi-currency accounts, online payments,  real-time UK and EU transfers and global mass payouts. Within that platform, PaidBy® provides Pay by Bank with real-time settlement notifications, automated reconciliation and integrated refund management. One partner, one integration — helping your business transact with confidence. Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.isx.financial⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [http://www.isx.financial/] *** The Payments Shed Podcast is sponsored by Cyclops. Cyclops is a crypto and stablecoin infrastructure platform for payments companies, enabling PSPs, acquirers and processors to offer crypto acceptance, stablecoin settlement and payouts without building their own blockchain stack. It provides a unified solution for pay ins, payouts and fiat to digital asset conversion, with simple API or low code integration. Built specifically for the payments ecosystem, Cyclops focuses on making stablecoins practical, scalable and commercially viable. Learn more at - https://www.cyclops.io/ *** The Payments Shed Podcast is supported by PCN. PCN is a boutique recruitment agency rooted in Amsterdam, driven by a singular mission: connecting top talent with industry leaders. PCN specialises in five core pillars — Fintech, Cybersecurity, SaaS, E-Commerce, and Salesforce — backed by a global network across borders. Learn more at - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://teampcn.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://teampcn.com/] *** Disclaimer. Any views or opinions referenced in this podcast episode are our own, or those of our respective guests, and they do not represent any views, opinions, or statements from our respective employers, or those of our guests. Additionally, any views expressed here are not intended as investment, legal, tax, or financial advice.

25 de may de 2026 - 47 min
episode Ep. 70 - Global Merchants, Local Problems — Navigating Payments in 2026 with the Merchant Risk Council (MRC) artwork

Ep. 70 - Global Merchants, Local Problems — Navigating Payments in 2026 with the Merchant Risk Council (MRC)

In this episode, hosts Grant Evans and Justin Hanna are joined by Julie Fergerson, CEO of the Merchant Risk Council, for a deep dive into the challenges merchants are facing across payments, fraud, regulation, and AI in 2026 — and why collaboration across the ecosystem matters more than ever. Julie explains what the Merchant Risk Council actually does, who it represents, and why it has become one of the most important communities for merchants navigating an increasingly fragmented global payments landscape. The conversation explores the differences between US and European merchant challenges, where payment providers still fall short, and why many merchants feel the industry is often built more for providers than for the businesses actually accepting payments. They also unpack the growing role of AI across fraud prevention, optimisation, and commerce, discussing where merchants are already seeing real-world value — and where the industry may be underestimating the risks. Along the way, the discussion touches on collaboration, scheme pressure, VAMP, merchant education, and why stronger relationships between merchants, acquirers, and providers are becoming increasingly critical. Plus, Julie steps up for The Payments Shed’s legendary Shelf of Shame — calling out one payments trend and industry cliché she’d happily banish forever. Enjoyed the conversation? Keep learning with 15% off all MRC eLearning courses until 1 June using code: PAYMENTSHED15 *** The Payments Shed Podcast is headline sponsored by ISX Financial. ISX Financial, delivers a unified ecosystem with multi-currency accounts, online payments,  real-time UK and EU transfers and global mass payouts. Within that platform, PaidBy® provides Pay by Bank with real-time settlement notifications, automated reconciliation and integrated refund management. One partner, one integration — helping your business transact with confidence. Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.isx.financial⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [http://www.isx.financial/] *** The Payments Shed Podcast is sponsored by Cyclops. Cyclops is a crypto and stablecoin infrastructure platform for payments companies, enabling PSPs, acquirers and processors to offer crypto acceptance, stablecoin settlement and payouts without building their own blockchain stack. It provides a unified solution for pay ins, payouts and fiat to digital asset conversion, with simple API or low code integration. Built specifically for the payments ecosystem, Cyclops focuses on making stablecoins practical, scalable and commercially viable. Learn more at - https://www.cyclops.io/ *** The Payments Shed Podcast is supported by PCN. PCN is a boutique recruitment agency rooted in Amsterdam, driven by a singular mission: connecting top talent with industry leaders. PCN specialises in five core pillars — Fintech, Cybersecurity, SaaS, E-Commerce, and Salesforce — backed by a global network across borders.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://teampcn.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://teampcn.com/] *** Disclaimer. Any views or opinions referenced in this podcast episode are our own, or those of our respective guests, and they do not represent any views, opinions, or statements from our respective employers, or those of our guests. Additionally, any views expressed here are not intended as investment, legal, tax, or financial advice.

20 de may de 2026 - 43 min
episode Ep. 69 - From Broken Cross-Border Payments to Agentic Commerce — Why Stablecoins Change Everything with Damisa artwork

Ep. 69 - From Broken Cross-Border Payments to Agentic Commerce — Why Stablecoins Change Everything with Damisa

In this episode, hosts Grant Evans and Justin Hanna are joined by Jordan Lawrence, Co-Founder of Damisa, to unpack why traditional cross-border payments remain so inefficient — and why stablecoins could fundamentally reshape how global commerce moves money. Jordan shares the thinking behind launching Damisa, and where the biggest pain points still sit across correspondent banking, FX, settlement delays, and fragmented compliance. The conversation explores why these inefficiencies disproportionately impact e-commerce businesses and emerging markets, and how modern digital rails can unlock faster, more transparent movement of value. They also dive into the growing debate around trust in crypto versus fiat, separating speculative crypto narratives from the real-world use of stablecoin infrastructure in payments and treasury. From revenue-generating use cases to programmable liquidity, the discussion looks at where stablecoins are already delivering meaningful commercial value today. Looking ahead, the episode explores the rise of agentic commerce — where AI agents transact autonomously — and why stablecoins may become the native settlement layer for machine-to-machine payments and next-generation ecommerce. Plus, Jordan steps up for The Payments Shed’s legendary Shelf of Shame — calling out one myth in crypto and cross-border payments he’d happily banish forever. *** The Payments Shed Podcast is headline sponsored by ISX Financial. ISX Financial, delivers a unified ecosystem with multi-currency accounts, online payments,  real-time UK and EU transfers and global mass payouts. Within that platform, PaidBy® provides Pay by Bank with real-time settlement notifications, automated reconciliation and integrated refund management. One partner, one integration — helping your business transact with confidence. Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.isx.financial⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [http://www.isx.financial/] *** The Payments Shed Podcast is sponsored by Cyclops. Cyclops is a crypto and stablecoin infrastructure platform for payments companies, enabling PSPs, acquirers and processors to offer crypto acceptance, stablecoin settlement and payouts without building their own blockchain stack. It provides a unified solution for pay ins, payouts and fiat to digital asset conversion, with simple API or low code integration. Built specifically for the payments ecosystem, Cyclops focuses on making stablecoins practical, scalable and commercially viable. Learn more at - https://www.cyclops.io/ *** The Payments Shed Podcast is supported by PCN. PCN is a boutique recruitment agency rooted in Amsterdam, driven by a singular mission: connecting top talent with industry leaders. PCN specialises in five core pillars — Fintech, Cybersecurity, SaaS, E-Commerce, and Salesforce — backed by a global network across borders.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://teampcn.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://teampcn.com/] *** Disclaimer. Any views or opinions referenced in this podcast episode are our own, or those of our respective guests, and they do not represent any views, opinions, or statements from our respective employers, or those of our guests. Additionally, any views expressed here are not intended as investment, legal, tax, or financial advice.

16 de may de 2026 - 39 min
episode Ep. 68 - LIVE from FTT Payments with Ryft: Beyond the AI Hype - What Businesses Should Actually Prepare for in Commerce artwork

Ep. 68 - LIVE from FTT Payments with Ryft: Beyond the AI Hype - What Businesses Should Actually Prepare for in Commerce

Live from FTT Payments, Grant Evans is joined by guest co-host Dwayne Gefferie for a conversation with Sadra Hosseini, CEO of Ryft, unpacking the reality behind the growing hype surrounding agentic commerce. The conversation explores where AI-driven commerce is genuinely starting to emerge today, and where the industry may be getting ahead of itself. Sadra shares why behavioural shifts and workflow changes matter far more than headline hype, and why businesses should pay close attention to how product discovery and embedded commerce are evolving. They also discuss why discovery, not checkout, may currently be the most important battleground in agentic commerce, the growing importance of structured product data and inventory visibility, and what businesses should realistically be doing today to prepare for the next phase of AI-driven transactions. Plus, Sadra steps up for The Payments Shed’s legendary Shelf of Shame — calling out one thing in payments he’d happily banish forever. *** The Payments Shed Podcast is headline sponsored by ISX Financial. ISX Financial, delivers a unified ecosystem with multi-currency accounts, online payments,  real-time UK and EU transfers and global mass payouts. Within that platform, PaidBy® provides Pay by Bank with real-time settlement notifications, automated reconciliation and integrated refund management. One partner, one integration — helping your business transact with confidence. Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.isx.financial⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [http://www.isx.financial/] *** The Payments Shed Podcast is sponsored by Cyclops. Cyclops is a crypto and stablecoin infrastructure platform for payments companies, enabling PSPs, acquirers and processors to offer crypto acceptance, stablecoin settlement and payouts without building their own blockchain stack. It provides a unified solution for pay ins, payouts and fiat to digital asset conversion, with simple API or low code integration. Built specifically for the payments ecosystem, Cyclops focuses on making stablecoins practical, scalable and commercially viable. Learn more at - https://www.cyclops.io/ *** The Payments Shed Podcast is supported by PCN. PCN is a boutique recruitment agency rooted in Amsterdam, driven by a singular mission: connecting top talent with industry leaders. PCN specialises in five core pillars — Fintech, Cybersecurity, SaaS, E-Commerce, and Salesforce — backed by a global network across borders.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://teampcn.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://teampcn.com/] *** Disclaimer. Any views or opinions referenced in this podcast episode are our own, or those of our respective guests, and they do not represent any views, opinions, or statements from our respective employers, or those of our guests. Additionally, any views expressed here are not intended as investment, legal, tax, or financial advice.

16 de may de 2026 - 19 min
episode Ep. 67 - LIVE from FTT Payments with Protect Group: Refund Protection, Ghost Debt, and the Next Evolution of Embedded Finance artwork

Ep. 67 - LIVE from FTT Payments with Protect Group: Refund Protection, Ghost Debt, and the Next Evolution of Embedded Finance

Live from FTT Payments, Grant Evans is joined by guest co-host Dwayne Gefferie for a conversation with Sarah Gorton, Financial Services Lead at Protect Group, exploring how embedded protection products are beginning to reshape the economics of payments and commerce. Sarah explains how refund protection can move payments beyond pure infrastructure and into a genuine revenue and conversion driver for merchants. The discussion dives into the idea of the “triple win” in embedded finance, reducing booking anxiety for consumers, improving merchant margins, and creating better commercial outcomes across the transaction journey. They also explore the rise of BNPL risk, the concept of “ghost debt”, and how smarter embedded protection models could help both consumers and lenders manage financial uncertainty more effectively in the future. Plus, Sarah steps up for The Payments Shed’s legendary Shelf of Shame — calling out one thing in payments she’d happily banish forever. *** The Payments Shed Podcast is headline sponsored by ISX Financial. ISX Financial, delivers a unified ecosystem with multi-currency accounts, online payments,  real-time UK and EU transfers and global mass payouts. Within that platform, PaidBy® provides Pay by Bank with real-time settlement notifications, automated reconciliation and integrated refund management. One partner, one integration — helping your business transact with confidence. Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.isx.financial⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [http://www.isx.financial/] *** The Payments Shed Podcast is sponsored by Cyclops. Cyclops is a crypto and stablecoin infrastructure platform for payments companies, enabling PSPs, acquirers and processors to offer crypto acceptance, stablecoin settlement and payouts without building their own blockchain stack. It provides a unified solution for pay ins, payouts and fiat to digital asset conversion, with simple API or low code integration. Built specifically for the payments ecosystem, Cyclops focuses on making stablecoins practical, scalable and commercially viable. Learn more at - https://www.cyclops.io/ *** The Payments Shed Podcast is supported by PCN. PCN is a boutique recruitment agency rooted in Amsterdam, driven by a singular mission: connecting top talent with industry leaders. PCN specialises in five core pillars — Fintech, Cybersecurity, SaaS, E-Commerce, and Salesforce — backed by a global network across borders.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://teampcn.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://teampcn.com/] *** Disclaimer. Any views or opinions referenced in this podcast episode are our own, or those of our respective guests, and they do not represent any views, opinions, or statements from our respective employers, or those of our guests. Additionally, any views expressed here are not intended as investment, legal, tax, or financial advice.

16 de may de 2026 - 13 min
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