#20 - Jules Cassetti: The Alchemy of Grief - Why Your Deepest Pain Holds Your Life's Mission
Jules Cassetti is a board-certified holistic nurse, death doula, and psychedelic integration specialist who helps people navigate grief, loss, and life's biggest transitions. A nurse since 2016, Jules cut her teeth in the conventional system — travel nursing across multiple cities and working as an ICU nurse through the height of COVID. Today, Jules bridges modern healthcare with holistic and spiritual approaches to healing — offering grief and psychedelic integration coaching, consulting for healthcare professionals ready to leap into more authentic careers, and in-person death doula support for people and families traversing life's biggest thresholds.
In this episode, Matt and Brooke reunite with Jules Cassetti — a friend since their Sedona desert days in 2021 — for a raw and surprisingly playful conversation about death, grief, and what it actually takes to feel alive. Jules shares her path from burnt-out COVID ICU nurse to death doula, why the goal is never to remove grief but to integrate it, and how unprocessed grief silently drives disease, addiction, and the "gnawing hunger" of modern society. She breaks down the five stages of grief (and why they're anything but linear), the alchemy of turning pain into creative expression, and the single most accessible healing practice available to anyone: sharing your story and being truly witnessed. If you've been carrying grief you don't know what to do with — or you're facing a threshold of your own — this conversation is a hand to hold.
Key Topics:
* Jules's journey from ICU nurse during COVID to holistic nurse and death doula
* Shedding the job-title identity: what nursing taught her about the human condition
* How hospitals reveal the link between unprocessed trauma and physical disease
* Losing her mother unexpectedly — and why her mom's death was her own death too
* Integrated grief vs. "taking the pain away": why holding space beats fixing
* The five stages of grief and why the path to acceptance is nonlinear and chaotic
* The alchemy of grief: painting, movement, voice, and turning pain into expression
* Why unprocessed grief becomes bitterness, disease, and the shadow of the collective
* Practical tools: stream-of-consciousness journaling, dream work, and Internal Family Systems
* The power of being witnessed: sharing the myth of your life in noble silence
* Deathbed wisdom: the #1 regret, returning to innocence, and death as homecoming
* What it means to live a thriving life: scrubbing shame and being of service
Timestamps:
00:00 - Welcome and introduction to Jules and her path to death doula work
02:00 - From ICU nursing during COVID to ketamine therapy and holistic nurse coaching
10:00 - Nurse coaching explained and finding freedom beyond the job-title identity
15:00 - Grief and death as the through line: ego deaths, Costa Rica, and the leap
21:00 - Losing her mom — the biggest initiation and the healing journey that followed
25:00 - Integrated grief: managing expectations and holding space instead of fixing
29:00 - Matt's grief portals, the five stages, and the nonlinear road to acceptance
33:00 - The alchemy of grief: turning raw pain into art, movement, and voice
43:00 - How unprocessed grief becomes disease — the key to regenerative health
47:00 - Practical tools to tap into grief: journaling, dreams, IFS, and plant medicine
51:00 - The most accessible medicine of all: sharing your story and being witnessed
69:00 - What a thriving life looks like: no shame, service, and playing full out
73:00 - How to work with Jules, flow arts, and closing thoughts
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