The Sandy and Dave Show: Coaching Conversations for Coaches

The Return of the 30-minute Menace!

In this episode, we revisit the 30-minute session and what to expect when you are working for one of these big coaching companies that offer only 30-minute coaching sessions. Dave dives into the research (of course he does) and Sandy has a few rants about profile photos (including her own...). SHOW FLOW and LINKS (some may be affiliate links) * where do we find these 30-minute sessions - and why 30 minutes?? * Sandy goes on her soapbox about coaching bios and profile photos * what 30-minute session structure look like for us * how coachability comes into play when working for these big coaching companies * what we strive to do - and what we might skip - in these shorter sessions * what advice we would give to coaches new to these platforms The study Dave mentioned: Behaviors and Structures for Coaches to Maximize Effects on Coaching, Coaching Research Institute LLP, 2013: https://researchportal.coachingfederation.org/Document/Pdf/519.pdf [https://researchportal.coachingfederation.org/Document/Pdf/519.pdf] Find Dave at coachdshen.com [https://coachdshen.com/] Find Sandy at swansoncoaching.com [https://www.swansoncoaching.com/coaches] Visit The Sandy and Dave Show website [https://thesandyanddaveshow.com/] Intro and outro music by JuliusH [https://pixabay.com/de/users/juliush-3921568/]. Thanks Julius!

Trust and Safety in Coaching Sessions

The concept of trust and safety seems soooo simple, and yet... there is a lot to it regarding coaching conversations and how we show up for our clients! In this episode you'll hear areas of growth to consider when cultivating trust and safety, Dave's joy when it comes to word definitions, and some of Sandy's pet peeves about coaching over video. Enjoy! SHOW FLOW and LINKS (some may be affiliate links) * the definitions of trust and safety * rapport - is this the same as trust or safety? * the ICF competency on trust and safety * the National Board guidelines - do they even mention trust?? * Sandy's breakdown of 3 areas to cultivate trust with clients * Dave's thoughts on what he does to create trust in and out of sessions * 5 things Sandy hears in student recordings relating to trust and safety * Sandy's pet peeve about video environments and how this can affect a feeling of trust or safety in clients The ICF PCC (Professional Certified Coach) Markers can be found here: November 2020 ICF PCC Markers [https://coachingfederation.org/app/uploads/2021/06/Updated-ICF-PCC-Markers_English_Brand-Updated_Final.pdf] The NBHWC Practical Skills Guidelines (Competencies and "Observables") can be found here: September 2022 NBWC Practical Skills Guidelines [https://www.dropbox.com/s/rc4xpkhiembgk5c/Final%20NBHWC%20Practical%20Skills%20Guidelines.September%202022.docx.pdf?dl=0] Find Dave at coachdshen.com [https://coachdshen.com/] Find Sandy at swansoncoaching.com [https://www.swansoncoaching.com/coaches] Visit The Sandy and Dave Show website [https://thesandyanddaveshow.com/] Intro and outro music by JuliusH [https://pixabay.com/de/users/juliush-3921568/]. Thanks Julius!

Leading without Leading

Wait, leading? Isn't that BAD in coaching sessions? Yes, and no. Leading *without leading* is pretty much in our job descriptions as coaches. We'll discuss this, why it can be good OR bad, and offer our two-point failsafe method to "lead without leading" that we use in our sessions. SHOW FLOW and LINKS (some may be affiliate links) What do we mean by "leading"? What do we mean by "leading without leading?" What Dave prefers to call this Discussion of why this is good - and bad - and how to do it using Dave's patented "lead without leading" method Sandy shares what ICF PCC markers speak to this topic The three things Sandy hears in session reviews from new coaches How to practice this skill The ICF PCC (Professional Certified Coach) Markers can be found here: November 2020 ICF PCC Markers [https://coachingfederation.org/app/uploads/2021/06/Updated-ICF-PCC-Markers_English_Brand-Updated_Final.pdf] Find Dave at coachdshen.com [https://coachdshen.com/] Find Sandy at swansoncoaching.com [https://www.swansoncoaching.com/coaches] Visit The Sandy and Dave Show website [https://thesandyanddaveshow.com/] Intro and outro music by JuliusH [https://pixabay.com/de/users/juliush-3921568/]. Thanks Julius!

Chemistry Sessions for Coaches

Chemistry sessions. What are they? What should they include? What SHOULDN'T they include? And why does Sandy dislike that term, ""chemistry"" (major air quotes there)? These answers and more are discussed in this episode! Be sure to scroll down if you'd like a copy of Sandy's First Session Road Map if you need some structure to your initial sessions with potential clients. SHOW FLOW and LINKS (some may be affiliate links) The purpose of chemistry sessions Length of these sessions Do we charge for these initial sessions? Structure of chemistry sessions Thoughts on coaching during this first session Thoughts on "selling" to potential clients Have we ever said "no" to a potential client? Chemistry sessions when working for a coaching company (BetterUp, Modern Health, Spring Health, AbleTo, etc) - do they even exist in this realm? If so, how are they different? People.... people who need.... people... [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPlQ6EtArSc] listen to this volume UP to hear the way this song should be sung. By Jule Styne and Bob Merrill featuring the original Funny Girl herself. ICF Guidelines on referring a client to therapy [https://coachingfederation.org/app/uploads/2021/01/ReferringaClienttoTherapy.pdf] NBHWC (National Board for Health and Wellness Coaches) does not have any resources regarding therapy referrals that we could find. CLICK HERE [https://www.swansoncoaching.com/chemistry] for Sandy's First Session Road Map Find Dave at coachdshen.com [https://coachdshen.com/] Find Sandy at swansoncoaching.com [https://www.swansoncoaching.com/coaches] Visit The Sandy and Dave Show website [https://thesandyanddaveshow.com/] Intro and outro music by JuliusH [https://pixabay.com/de/users/juliush-3921568/]. Thanks Julius!

Language in Coaching Conversations

Let's talk LANGUAGE! We're all taught to "use your client's language", but what about the coach's language? And what if you purposefully use language that is *opposite* of the words your client just spoke, what happens then...? What the heck is NLP, anyways, and why are we obsessed with it?? All of this and more in this episode. Enjoy! SHOW FLOW and LINKS (some may be affiliate links) What's important about language in coaching sessions Thinking/feeling language How trust/rapport come into play when using language Using different language than your client - on purpose Internal vs external language Away vs towards language Flourishing vs languishing language Violent language and metaphors Cultural differences and coaching in a second language Practices for coaches to try in their sessions Holistic Coach Podcast [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep101-language-emotions-humor-in-coaching/id1549121014?i=1000631608233] (interview with Sandy) Introduction to NLP [https://amzn.to/4aNOpg4] (book) The Power of Language [https://www.bonn-institute.org/en/news/psychology-in-journalism-2] Find Dave at coachdshen.com [https://coachdshen.com/] Find Sandy at swansoncoaching.com [https://www.swansoncoaching.com/coaches] Visit The Sandy and Dave Show website [https://thesandyanddaveshow.com/] Intro and outro music by JuliusH [https://pixabay.com/de/users/juliush-3921568/]. Thanks Julius!