The Zach and Pat Show
In 2018, a truck exploded just feet from firefighter Aaron Burlingame. He came back. This one’s about leadership, culture, faith, and what the worst days teach you about what actually matters. Aaron Burlingame — Battalion Chief with the St. Charles Fire Department — sits down with Zach & Pat on leading vs. bossing, building a culture people choose over higher pay, first-responder mental health, raising sons who own their mistakes, surviving serious burns, and the faith he found on the other side. Real conversation, no clickbait. ▶ CHAPTERS 00:00 Meet Aaron Burlingame — St. Charles Fire 01:00 Why a fire chief fell for jiu-jitsu 06:00 The real lesson: consistency & doing hard things 11:30 Leadership isn’t being in charge — it’s responsibility 15:00 How "Discipline Equals Freedom" changed his leadership 17:00 What the worst days teach you about what matters 18:00 How the fire service finally took mental health seriously 23:00 The culture that put St. Charles on the map 31:30 The cell-phone box: rebuilding conversation 34:45 The Dungeons & Dragons leadership lesson 39:30 A leadership mistake he still learns from 46:00 Watching his son enter the fire service 51:20 The day a truck exploded feet away 57:00 Faith, "box receipts," and finding the good 1:01:00 Muddy River FOOLS & the brotherhood 1:05:00 One thing you can do tomorrow: fill your cup 1:07:00 The Tombstone Game ▶ Help us hit 1,000 subscribers before the end of 2026 — SUBSCRIBE! ▶ FOLLOW US ON IG Zach: https://www.instagram.com/zach_fagas/ [https://www.instagram.com/zach_fagas/] Pat: https://www.instagram.com/stl_mortgagenerd/ [https://www.instagram.com/stl_mortgagenerd/] Murph: https://www.instagram.com/thedaily_murph/ [https://www.instagram.com/thedaily_murph/] ▶ OUR PARTNERS CPTN Beard Co — use code ZACHANDPAT for 10% off your order The Normal Brand — https://sldr.page.link/ZCYFu [https://sldr.page.link/ZCYFu] ▶ ABOUT THE SHOW The Zach & Pat Show — honest conversations about manhood, fatherhood, entrepreneurship, and a positive mental attitude. Hosted by Zach Fagas & Pat Doyle.
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