Working on Purpose

Leading What’s Alive: The Journey to Mastering the Living Organization

Leadership isn’t just about directing outcomes—it’s about cultivating what’s alive within your organization. In this thoughtful dialogue with Norman Wolfe, we explore the next evolution of The Living Organization and what it asks of leaders willing to grow into it. This episode centers on the inner journey: learning to see patterns, deepen your presence, and lead from a more integrated, whole self. Because when leaders evolve, organizations don’t just perform better—they come alive. Working on Purpose is broadcast live Tuesdays at 6PM ET and Music on W4CY Radio (www.w4cy.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.w4cy.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=b6rauPY_VIZU1vlCGRtOx-1qk54yAqJZlATk0fEEZaY&e=]) part of Talk 4 Radio (www.talk4radio.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4radio.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=kfnPLKoMa6NLXakP7s0ZtEbYtQqcNE9_9360pXti1dU&e=]) on the Talk 4 Media Network (www.talk4media.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4media.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=qV4gZfRYgGoBD-zruDg55Rt9h5kRkmLXQNY8M8Ep29s&e=]). Working on Purpose is viewed on Talk 4 TV (www.talk4tv.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4tv.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=4H9THsdhrfCUnImyLmsg9bXAYS8D1-Irb4A2g03pYgE&e=]). Working on Purpose Podcast is also available on Talk 4 Media (www.talk4media.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4media.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=qV4gZfRYgGoBD-zruDg55Rt9h5kRkmLXQNY8M8Ep29s&e=]), Talk 4 Podcasting (www.talk4podcasting.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4podcasting.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=EuaHzIg9W5dFmp-W7Dp0D36nZEyszXpjGHERMUvoQ8M&e=]), iHeartRadio, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify, Audible, and over 100 other podcast outlets. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/working-on-purpose--2643411/support [https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/working-on-purpose--2643411/support?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss].

The AI Ultimatum: Will You Replace Humans…or Rise With Them?

AI is no longer a future conversation—it’s here, and it’s forcing a reckoning. Will you use it to cut costs and commoditize talent, or to amplify human brilliance? In this episode, we unpack the real leadership challenge of AI: navigating disruption while unlocking empowerment. The winners won’t be those who automate the fastest, but those who invest wisely in elevating customers, energizing employees, and transforming operations with intention and purpose. Working on Purpose is broadcast live Tuesdays at 6PM ET and Music on W4CY Radio (www.w4cy.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.w4cy.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=b6rauPY_VIZU1vlCGRtOx-1qk54yAqJZlATk0fEEZaY&e=]) part of Talk 4 Radio (www.talk4radio.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4radio.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=kfnPLKoMa6NLXakP7s0ZtEbYtQqcNE9_9360pXti1dU&e=]) on the Talk 4 Media Network (www.talk4media.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4media.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=qV4gZfRYgGoBD-zruDg55Rt9h5kRkmLXQNY8M8Ep29s&e=]). Working on Purpose is viewed on Talk 4 TV (www.talk4tv.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4tv.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=4H9THsdhrfCUnImyLmsg9bXAYS8D1-Irb4A2g03pYgE&e=]). Working on Purpose Podcast is also available on Talk 4 Media (www.talk4media.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4media.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=qV4gZfRYgGoBD-zruDg55Rt9h5kRkmLXQNY8M8Ep29s&e=]), Talk 4 Podcasting (www.talk4podcasting.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4podcasting.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=EuaHzIg9W5dFmp-W7Dp0D36nZEyszXpjGHERMUvoQ8M&e=]), iHeartRadio, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify, Audible, and over 100 other podcast outlets. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/working-on-purpose--2643411/support [https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/working-on-purpose--2643411/support?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss].

Don’t Lose Yourself: Staying Strong, Sane, and Grounded in a Divided World

The world feels louder, harsher, and more divided than ever. It’s easy to get pulled into the chaos—reacting, withdrawing, or simply feeling worn down by it all. But losing yourself in the noise comes at a cost. So how do you stay clear, centered, and strong? In this episode, Dr. Ciaramicoli brings 45 years of experience as a clinical psychologist sitting with people in their darkest moments while helping them to heal and reconnect with the deeper strength that allows you to rise above division. Working on Purpose is broadcast live Tuesdays at 6PM ET and Music on W4CY Radio (www.w4cy.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.w4cy.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=b6rauPY_VIZU1vlCGRtOx-1qk54yAqJZlATk0fEEZaY&e=]) part of Talk 4 Radio (www.talk4radio.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4radio.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=kfnPLKoMa6NLXakP7s0ZtEbYtQqcNE9_9360pXti1dU&e=]) on the Talk 4 Media Network (www.talk4media.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4media.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=qV4gZfRYgGoBD-zruDg55Rt9h5kRkmLXQNY8M8Ep29s&e=]). Working on Purpose is viewed on Talk 4 TV (www.talk4tv.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4tv.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=4H9THsdhrfCUnImyLmsg9bXAYS8D1-Irb4A2g03pYgE&e=]). Working on Purpose Podcast is also available on Talk 4 Media (www.talk4media.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4media.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=qV4gZfRYgGoBD-zruDg55Rt9h5kRkmLXQNY8M8Ep29s&e=]), Talk 4 Podcasting (www.talk4podcasting.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4podcasting.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=EuaHzIg9W5dFmp-W7Dp0D36nZEyszXpjGHERMUvoQ8M&e=]), iHeartRadio, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify, Audible, and over 100 other podcast outlets. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/working-on-purpose--2643411/support [https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/working-on-purpose--2643411/support?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss].

The Curse and Gift of Being “Driven”

Only about 10% of the population are what psychologist Douglas Brackmann calls “The Driven.” They are the entrepreneurs, inventors, and elite performers who build companies, create new industries, and generate much of the world’s wealth. But their superpower comes with a shadow. Driven individuals are often chronically dissatisfied—always pushing for more, even after achieving what others would consider extraordinary success. Working on Purpose is broadcast live Tuesdays at 6PM ET and Music on W4CY Radio (www.w4cy.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.w4cy.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=b6rauPY_VIZU1vlCGRtOx-1qk54yAqJZlATk0fEEZaY&e=]) part of Talk 4 Radio (www.talk4radio.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4radio.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=kfnPLKoMa6NLXakP7s0ZtEbYtQqcNE9_9360pXti1dU&e=]) on the Talk 4 Media Network (www.talk4media.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4media.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=qV4gZfRYgGoBD-zruDg55Rt9h5kRkmLXQNY8M8Ep29s&e=]). Working on Purpose is viewed on Talk 4 TV (www.talk4tv.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4tv.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=4H9THsdhrfCUnImyLmsg9bXAYS8D1-Irb4A2g03pYgE&e=]). Working on Purpose Podcast is also available on Talk 4 Media (www.talk4media.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4media.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=qV4gZfRYgGoBD-zruDg55Rt9h5kRkmLXQNY8M8Ep29s&e=]), Talk 4 Podcasting (www.talk4podcasting.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4podcasting.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=EuaHzIg9W5dFmp-W7Dp0D36nZEyszXpjGHERMUvoQ8M&e=]), iHeartRadio, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify, Audible, and over 100 other podcast outlets. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/working-on-purpose--2643411/support [https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/working-on-purpose--2643411/support?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss].

Why Soft Skills Are Now Hard Core: The Five C’s for Team Thriving

For years, leadership conversations treated communication, empathy, and collaboration as “soft skills.” But in today’s complex workplaces, they’ve become hard core capabilities for team success. My guest Yadira Caro shares her Five C’s framework—a practical method she uses to help teams build the trust, clarity, and connection needed to work better together and perform at their best. Working on Purpose is broadcast live Tuesdays at 6PM ET and Music on W4CY Radio (www.w4cy.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.w4cy.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=b6rauPY_VIZU1vlCGRtOx-1qk54yAqJZlATk0fEEZaY&e=]) part of Talk 4 Radio (www.talk4radio.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4radio.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=kfnPLKoMa6NLXakP7s0ZtEbYtQqcNE9_9360pXti1dU&e=]) on the Talk 4 Media Network (www.talk4media.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4media.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=qV4gZfRYgGoBD-zruDg55Rt9h5kRkmLXQNY8M8Ep29s&e=]). Working on Purpose is viewed on Talk 4 TV (www.talk4tv.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4tv.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=4H9THsdhrfCUnImyLmsg9bXAYS8D1-Irb4A2g03pYgE&e=]). Working on Purpose Podcast is also available on Talk 4 Media (www.talk4media.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4media.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=qV4gZfRYgGoBD-zruDg55Rt9h5kRkmLXQNY8M8Ep29s&e=]), Talk 4 Podcasting (www.talk4podcasting.com [https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.talk4podcasting.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=BSDicqBQBDjDI9RkVyTcHQ&r=uWCfroI8yhBYdmfU3V980uXFax9-5HwF09v59Wv8CbM&m=HzstcCRybMFoIRSAlzUg5NYgQlsMQMSX31P6w6DcewDEhbGRijbmusHINGCO4wiJ&s=EuaHzIg9W5dFmp-W7Dp0D36nZEyszXpjGHERMUvoQ8M&e=]), iHeartRadio, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify, Audible, and over 100 other podcast outlets. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/working-on-purpose--2643411/support [https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/working-on-purpose--2643411/support?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss].