Kratom Sobriety

In the open, Charlie and Nolan talk about the YouTuber interview from a couple weeks ago. In the interview, Katja shares with Lily her story of discovering the kava and kratom bar scene while living in Brooklyn and later witnessing her partner’s descent into kratom addiction. She offers a candid look at how extract products, financial strain, and secrecy turned their lives upside down and how she found stability through Al-Anon and community support. Her reflections give loved ones and those quitting kratom a grounded view of addiction, recovery, and hope.   WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7 [https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7]     QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com [https://www.kratommeetings.com]       CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety [https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety]       https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety [https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety]       https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety [https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety]      https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety [https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety]       https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety [https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety]   https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social [https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social]   https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety [https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety]         CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: kratomsobriety@gmail.com [kratomsobriety@gmail.com]       https://kratomsobriety.com [https://kratomsobriety.com]        PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424]      https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 [https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5]        https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00 [https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00]

This week features an interview Katie Herzog, author of the book "Drink Your Way Sober." Please be aware, you cannot use the Sinclair Method with kratom as it will cause precipitated withdrawals. The discussion explores medicated assisted treatment, harm reduction. the disease model for addiction, and a range of other topics. Drink Your Way Sober [https://www.drinkyourwaysober.com/] https://www.drinkyourwaysober.com/ [https://www.drinkyourwaysober.com/]    WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7 [https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7]     QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com [https://www.kratommeetings.com]       CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety [https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety]       https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety [https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety]       https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety [https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety]      https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety [https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety]       https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety [https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety]   https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social [https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social]   https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety [https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety]         CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: kratomsobriety@gmail.com [kratomsobriety@gmail.com]       https://kratomsobriety.com [https://kratomsobriety.com]        PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424 [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424]      https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5 [https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5]        https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00 [https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00]

Nolan interviews Metta Beshay, who posted a video recently named "The Insane World of Kratom & 7-OH" on YouTube.  HEADS UP: This guest talks about recent kratom use and is not actively committed to kratom abstinence but shares a range of insights and information about kratom that many listeners may find interesting and/or helpful. Metta's YouTube channel: https://youtu.be/Pqx_bMGeGwc?si=6X8x6P-9-D3MyApvm [https://youtu.be/Pqx_bMGeGwc?si=6X8x6P-9-D3MyApvm]   WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7    QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com      CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety      https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety      https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety     https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety      https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety  https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social  https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety        CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: kratomsobriety@gmail.com      https://kratomsobriety.com       PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424     https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5      https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

In the open, Nolan and Lily give tips on tapering. Nolan's quitting kratom book: https://a.co/d/b1cgJUJ [https://a.co/d/b1cgJUJ]   In the interview, David Hudnall, a journalist from the Kansas City Star, discusses his investigative reporting on 7-OH (7-hydroxymitragynine). The discussion covers the rapid rise of 7-OH in the U.S. market, particularly in Kansas City, and how is overtaking traditional kratom products in smoke shops and gas stations. The conversation highlights personal stories of addiction, the aggressive marketing tactics used by companies (such as free samples and loyalty programs), and the blurred lines between kratom and 7-OH in the marketplace.   7-OH and American Shaman - Part One ‘It’s addictive, and it’s everywhere’: KC company’s pills hook users across US” By David Hudnall September 18, 2025  https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article311991573.html [https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article311991573.html]     7-OH and American Shaman - Part Two From loans to hemp to smoke-shop opioids, KC businessman pushes legal limits By David Hudnall Updated September 17, 2025  https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article311969568.html [https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article311969568.html]     7-OH and American Shaman - Part Three ‘Sinister industry’: Kansas City company behind 7-OH & a growing opioid epidemic By David Hudnall Updated September 18, 2025 https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article311767920.html [https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article311767920.html]     Inside The Star How we reported on American Shaman, Vince Sanders & the debate around 7-OH By David Hudnall Updated September 17, 2025 11:08 AM https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/inside-the-star/article312119075.html [https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/inside-the-star/article312119075.html]    WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7    QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com      CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety      https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety      https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety     https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety      https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety  https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social  https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety        CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: kratomsobriety@gmail.com      https://kratomsobriety.com       PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424     https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5      https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Jacob and Lily talk getting into hobbies during recovery. In the interview, Justine shares her quitting kratom journey. She turned to kratom to manage pain and escalated into a serious health crisis that resulted in a lengthy hospitalization. Justine warns about the dangers of unregulated substances and encourages others to seek help and not try to quit alone.   WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7  QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com    CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety      https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety      https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety     https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety      https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety  https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social  https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety      CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: kratomsobriety@gmail.com      https://kratomsobriety.com     PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424     https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5      https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00