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Strange Country Ep. 315: JZ Knight

Put on your blindfolds, fill a wine glass to the brim and get ready to listen to the blather of a 35,000-year-old Lemurian god/warrior named Ramtha. It is only possible through the body of JZ Knight, a former cable television saleswoman who channeled that old dude after placing a paper pyramid on her head in 1977. And she has made millions off of it. Strange Country cohosts Beth and Kelly discuss the supposed enlightenment JZ shills as Ramtha's mouthpiece and whether channeling Ramtha might be the cure for Kelly's perimenopausal symptoms. Theme music: Big White Lie by A Cast of Thousands [http://www.acastofthousands.net/]. Cite your sources: Aldred, Lisa. ""Money is just Spiritual Energy": Incorporating the New Age." Journal of Popular Culture, vol. 35, no. 4, 2002, pp. 61-74. ProQuest, https://www.proquest.com/scholarly-journals/money-is-just-spiritual-energy-incorporating-new/docview/195365462/se-2. Braga, Michael. "FDA crackdown on alternative health - From fringes, growing distrust of feds' motives." USA TODAY (Arlington, VA), FIRST ed., sec. NEWS, 15 Sept. 2020, p. 1A. NewsBank: Access World News, https://infoweb.newsbank.com/apps/news/openurl?ctx_ver=z39.88-2004&rft_id=info%3Asid/infoweb.newsbank.com&svc_dat=AWNB&req_dat=0FA0729FAB9D3500&rft_val_format=info%3Aofi/fmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Actx&rft_dat=document_id%3Anews/17D81F89B606B428. Accessed 23 June 2026. Brunner, Jim. "Guess who's a big Trump fan? Ramtha, as channeled by Democratic donor JZ Knight." The Seattle Times, 4 April 2017, https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/guess-whos-a-big-trump-fan-ramtha-as-channeled-by-democratic-donor-jz-knight/. Accessed 18 June 2026. Buchanan, Susy. "Ramtha Riled." Southern Poverty Law Center, 24 May 2014, https://www.splcenter.org/resources/reports/ramtha-riled/. Accessed 18 June 2026. Egan, Timothy. "Worldly and the Spiritual Clash in New Age Divorce." New York Times, 25 Sept. 1992. Gale OneFile: News, link.gale.com/apps/doc/A174939497/STND?u=nysl_sc_ahs&sid=bookmark-STND&xid=e41ec71f. Accessed 18 June 2026. Eric, Scerri. "What the #$'! Do They Know?" Skeptical Inquirer, September/October 2004, https://skepticalinquirer.org/2004/09/what-the-do-they-know/. Accessed 23 June 2026. Hosenball, Mark. "The guru and the FAA." Newsweek, vol. 125, no. 10, 6 Mar. 1995, p. 32. Gale OneFile: High School Edition, link.gale.com/apps/doc/A16642039/STOM?u=nysl_sc_cayuga&sid=bookmark-STOM&xid=07d4682f. Accessed 23 June 2026. J. Z. Knight Divorce Trial Reveals Workings of Channeling Bu." The Skeptical Inquirer, vol. 17, no. 3, Spring, 1993, pp. 253. ProQuest, https://www.proquest.com/magazines/j-z-knight-divorce-trial-reveals-workings/docview/219263409/se-2. Mackay, Rob. "Shocking allegations from former JZ Knight follower." FOX 13 Seattle, 18 April 2014, https://www.fox13seattle.com/news/shocking-allegations-from-former-jz-knight-follower. Accessed 23 June 2026. "Madame Blavatsky and Theosophy." Expedition Magazine 29, no. 2 (July, 1987): -. Accessed June 18, 2026. https://www.penn.museum/sites/expedition/madame-blavatsky-and-theosophy/ "Ramtha is Solely Knight's, Court Says." The Seattle Times, 12 June 1997, https://archive.seattletimes.com/archive/19970612/2544252/ramtha-is-solely-knights-court-says. Accessed 17 June 2026. "Ramtha School of Enlightenment Promotes Natural Healing - Three Students report nontraditional recoveries from serious conditions thanks to RSE." PR Newswire (USA), 5 Apr. 2012. NewsBank: Access World News, https://infoweb.newsbank.com/apps/news/openurl?ctx_ver=z39.88-2004&rft_id=info%3Asid/infoweb.newsbank.com&svc_dat=AWNB&req_dat=0FA0729FAB9D3500&rft_val_format=info%3Aofi/fmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Actx&rft_dat=document_id%3Anews/13DF7B30E8151FA8. Accessed 23 June 2026. Reiss, Adam, and Dareh Gregorian. "Steve Bannon pleads guilty in New York 'We Build the Wall' case." NBC News, 11 February 2025, https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/steve-bannon-pleads-guilty-new-york-build-wall-case-rcna191672. Accessed 17 June 2026. RHODES, ELIZABETH. "STATE OF MIND JZ KNIGHT PREACHES SELF-LOVE THROUGH A 35,000- YEAR-OLD-SPIRIT." THE SEATTLE TIMES, SUNDAY ed., sec. SCENE, 25 Oct. 1987, p. K1. NewsBank: Access World News, https://infoweb.newsbank.com/apps/news/openurl?ctx_ver=z39.88-2004&rft_id=info%3Asid/infoweb.newsbank.com&svc_dat=AWNB&req_dat=0FA0729FAB9D3500&rft_val_format=info%3Aofi/fmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Actx&rft_dat=document_id%3Anews/0EB5328A5EA73AE1. Accessed 23 June 2026. Sagan, Carl. The Demon-Haunted World. pgs. 204-5, Random House Publishing Group, 1997. Sailor, Craig. "Ramtha channeler J.Z. Knight apparently has donated $10,000 to Mexican border wall campaign." The News Tribune, 21 December 2018, https://www.thenewstribune.com/latest-news/article223435620.html. Accessed 17 June 2026. "' School of Enlightenment' Subpoenas Facebook for Information on Former Members." Tacoma Examiner (WA), sec. Tacoma Private Schools Examiner, 30 Mar. 2013. NewsBank: Access World News, https://infoweb.newsbank.com/apps/news/openurl?ctx_ver=z39.88-2004&rft_id=info%3Asid/infoweb.newsbank.com&svc_dat=AWNB&req_dat=0FA0729FAB9D3500&rft_val_format=info%3Aofi/fmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Actx&rft_dat=document_id%3Anews/1455FCEBF1D3C0A8. Accessed 23 June 2026. Scott, Marion. "SHE'S SOME PROFIT!; The blonde who'll tell you the secrets of a 35,000 year old man ... for pounds 1,000 a go." Sunday Mail [Glasgow, Scotland], 23 May 1999, p. 20. Gale OneFile: News, link.gale.com/apps/doc/A60213035/STND?u=nysl_sc_ahs&sid=bookmark-STND&xid=ccd425a2. Accessed 18 June 2026. Schrader, Jordan. "Appeals court upholds most of ruling for JZ Knight." Olympian, The (WA), 1st State ed., sec. News, 22 Jan. 2016, p. 14A. NewsBank: Access World News, https://infoweb.newsbank.com/apps/news/openurl?ctx_ver=z39.88-2004&rft_id=info%3Asid/infoweb.newsbank.com&svc_dat=AWNB&req_dat=0FA0729FAB9D3500&rft_val_format=info%3Aofi/fmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Actx&rft_dat=document_id%3Anews/15A8BE1384485BF8. Accessed 23 June 2026. Sommer, Will. "QAnon Teams Up With Alleged Cult Leader." Daily Beast, The, sec. Right Richter, 21 May 2019. NewsBank: Access World News, https://infoweb.newsbank.com/apps/news/openurl?ctx_ver=z39.88-2004&rft_id=info%3Asid/infoweb.newsbank.com&svc_dat=AWNB&req_dat=0FA0729FAB9D3500&rft_val_format=info%3Aofi/fmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Actx&rft_dat=document_id%3Anews/173945FB34159670. Accessed 23 June 2026. Sottile, Leah. Blazing Eye Sees All: Love Has Won, False Prophets, and the Fever Dream of the American New Age. Grand Central Publishing, 2025. "Testing Concludes That JZ Knight and Ramtha Have Distinct, Separate DNA - Results confirmed by three separate labs in different locations." PR Newswire (USA), 12 Mar. 2015. NewsBank: Access World News, https://infoweb.newsbank.com/apps/news/openurl?ctx_ver=z39.88-2004&rft_id=info%3Asid/infoweb.newsbank.com&svc_dat=AWNB&req_dat=0FA0729FAB9D3500&rft_val_format=info%3Aofi/fmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Actx&rft_dat=document_id%3Anews/154063EF485623D8. Accessed 23 June 2026. Williams, Allison. "The Ancient Spirit That Settled in Small-Town Washington." Seattle Met, 15 November 2022, https://www.seattlemet.com/news-and-city-life/2022/11/jz-knight-ramtha-yelm-washington-school-of-enlightenment. Accessed 18 June 2026.

Strange Country Ep. 314: Jennicam

Long before influencers were telling us to shove garlic in all orifices to cure hot-dog fingers, a college student thought it would be interesting to write a computer program that would upload pics of her in her dorm room every 15 minutes. Little did she know she would attract half a million followers (87% masturbators) and possibly play a role in the total collapse of humanity. On this episode of Strange Country, Beth and Kelly upload pics of themselves as they discuss Jennifer Ringley, the founder of Jennicam in 1996. She was one of the first to think it was a good idea to broadcast everything about yourself online. Theme music: Big White Lie by A Cast of Thousands [http://www.acastofthousands.net/]. Cite your sources: Alptraum, Lux. "There Is Life After Campus Infamy - The New York Times." ny times, 22 July 2018, https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/21/style/campus-sex-women-exposure.html?searchResultPosition=1. Accessed 8 June 2026. Carlin, John. "Internet: The site that is bringing home entertainment to millions; A young American woman has a small video camera trained on her bedroom 24 hours a day. The camera, connected to a computer, relays continually updated colour photographs from her Washington flat into her Internet website, where 100 million visitors around." Independent [London, England], 26 Sept. 1997, p. 7. Gale OneFile: News, link.gale.com/apps/doc/A66974447/STND?u=nysl_sc_ahs&sid=bookmark-STND&xid=44e3efd8. Accessed 8 June 2026. Copeland, Libby. "All a Woman Can Bare." The Washington Post, 26 August 2000, https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/2000/08/26/all-a-woman-can-bare/f104e1fc-7cc1-47ca-acad-53193eb1c18b/. Accessed 8 June 2026. Craig, Elise. "The Discreet Thrill of Lurking Online." The New York Times Magazine, 11 May 2023, https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/09/magazine/lurking-online.html. Accessed 23 May 2026. "Final Days in the Life at Jennicam." The Washington Post, 6 December 2003, https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/business/2003/12/07/final-days-in-the-life-at-jennicam/06aef23c-6ff9-4f05-8ea3-e0857a034b4c/. Accessed 8 June 2026. Gilbert, Sophie. Girl on Girl: How Pop Culture Turned a Generation of Women Against Themselves. Penguin Publishing Group, 2025. Hart, Hugh. "April 14, 1996: JenniCam Starts Lifecasting - WIRED." Wired, 14 Apr. 2010, https://www.wired.com/2010/04/0414jennicam-launches/ [https://www.wired.com/2010/04/0414jennicam-launches/]. Knibbs, Kate, et al. "Jennicam: Why the First Lifecaster Disappeared from the Internet." Gizmodo, 14 April 2015, https://gizmodo.com/jennicam-why-the-first-lifecaster-disappeared-from-the-1697712996. Accessed 8 June 2026. Marin, Cheech, and Ray Sawhill. "And NOW, The Human Show." Newsweek, vol. 131, no. 22, 1 June 1998, p. 64. Gale OneFile: News, link.gale.com/apps/doc/A20835616/STND?u=nysl_sc_ahs&sid=bookmark-STND&xid=4d1465bc. Accessed 8 June 2026. Stevic, Anja. "Anxious but Posting? The Psychology of Sharing Online." Stanford Cyber Policy Center, Stanford University, 13 April 2026, https://cyber.fsi.stanford.edu/news/anxious-posting-psychology-sharing-online. Accessed 8 June 2026.

Strange Country Ep. 313: America's Most Hated Woman

How do you become the Most Hated Woman in America? Kelly and Beth have been trying for nine years, but we still have no trophy with those words. And maybe that's a good thing. Is it worth fighting for what's right and telling the truth if it means in the end you get murdered anyway? Learn about Madalyn Murray O'Hair who won that title according to Time Magazine, back in the era of Phil Donahue and people actually reading Time Magazine. Thanks for listening; it's an act of love, which we need more of these days! Theme music: Big White Lie by A Cast of Thousands [http://www.acastofthousands.net/]. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnMkhk9vAz8. Anderson, Owen. "Do You Remember Madalyn Murray O'Hair? | Owen Anderson." American Reformer, 7 April 2025, https://americanreformer.org/2025/04/do-you-remember-madalyn-murray-ohair/. Accessed 10 May 2026. "Become a Member." American Atheists, https://atheists.org/join/. Accessed 10 May 2026. Lancaster, Katherine, and Clarence B. Garrett. "O'Hair, Madalyn Murray." Texas State Historical Association, https://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/entries/ohair-madalyn-murray. Accessed 10 May 2026. "Madalyn Murray O'Hair." Wikipedia, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madalyn_Murray_O%27Hair. Accessed 10 May 2026. Seaman, Ann Rowe. America's Most Hated Woman: The Life and Gruesome Death of Madalyn Murray O'Hair. Bloomsbury Academic, 2005. Accessed 10 May 2026.

Strange Country Ep. 312: Bath School Massacre

America is known for multiple things: apple pie, Mr. T, and school massacres. But the worst massacre of all time is likely one you've never heard of before. Strange Country cohosts Beth and Kelly talk about the 1927 bombing of Bath Consolidated Schools that resulted in the deaths of 43 people, mainly children. Just your ever-so-often reminder that while it seems like things are extra terrible now, we've always been pretty shitty. Theme music: Big White Lie by A Cast of Thousands [http://www.acastofthousands.net/]. Cite your sources: Bernstein, Arnie. Bath Massacre: America's First School Bombing. University of Michigan Press, 2009. "Deepening Farms with Dynamite." Farms.com, 2 Nov. 2017, www.farms.com/reflections-on-farm-and-food-history/historical-articles-archive/deepening-farms-with-dynamite [https://www.farms.com/reflections-on-farm-and-food-history/historical-articles-archive/deepening-farms-with-dynamite]. Originally published in The Farmer's Advocate, 29 Aug. 1912. Gulliver, Katrina. "Why We Have Forgotten the Worst School Attack in U.S. History." Time, 12 December 2023, https://time.com/4492872/kehoe-attack-history/ [https://time.com/4492872/kehoe-attack-history/]. Haddad, Ken. "96 years later: Michigan's Bath School disaster remains deadliest in US history." ClickOnDetroit, 18 May 2023, https://www.clickondetroit.com/features/2023/05/16/96-years-later-michigans-bath-school-disaster-remains-deadliest-in-us-history/. Accessed 22 April 2026. "Survivors Recall 1927 Michigan School Massacre." NPR, 17 April 2009, https://www.npr.org/2009/04/17/103186662/survivors-recall-1927-michigan-school-massacre. Accessed 22 April 2026.

Strange Country Ep. 311: Tylenol Poisonings

In 1982, seven people died after taking doses of Extra Strength Tylenol, leading to a full-blown and safety standards for over-the-counter meds. To this day, the murders remain unsolved. Strange Country cohosts Beth and Kelly discuss this 1982 mystery and its possible suspects while Beth mispronounces "business ethics" because that's not really a thing. Theme music: Big White Lie by A Cast of Thousands [http://www.acastofthousands.net/]. Cite your sources: Bergmann, Joy. "A Bitter Pill." Chicago Reader, 2 Nov. 2000, https://chicagoreader.com/news/a-bitter-pill/ [https://chicagoreader.com/news/a-bitter-pill/]. Accessed 22 Mar. 2026. Cold Case: The Tylenol Murders. Directed by Yotam Guendelman and Ari Pines, Netflix, 2025. Accessed 22 Mar. 2026. Harris, Gardiner. No More Tears: The Dark Secrets of Johnson & Johnson. Random House, 2025. Locke, Taylor. "Tylenol Orders in Pregnant People Plummeted after Trump Falsely Linked the Drug to Autism." Scientific American, 12 Mar. 2026, www.scientificamerican.com/article/tylenol-orders-in-pregnant-people-plummeted-after-trump-falsely-linked-the/ [https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/tylenol-orders-in-pregnant-people-plummeted-after-trump-falsely-linked-the/]. Accessed 23 Mar. 2026. "Searching for Tylenol Murder Suspects." Thirteen / PBS, https://www.thirteen.org/programs/chicago-stories/searching-for-tylenol-murder-suspects-iamsis/ [https://www.thirteen.org/programs/chicago-stories/searching-for-tylenol-murder-suspects-iamsis/]. Accessed 22 Mar. 2026. Waxman, Olivia B. "The True Story Behind Cold Case: The Tylenol Murders." Time, 26 May 2025, https://time.com/7287680/tylenol-murders-documentary-netflix/ [https://time.com/7287680/tylenol-murders-documentary-netflix/]. Accessed 22 Mar. 2026. "Who Committed the Tylenol Murders? After More Than 40 Years, the Case Remains Unsolved." WTTW Chicago, https://www.wttw.com/chicago-stories/inside-the-tylenol-murders/who-committed-the-tylenol-murders [https://www.wttw.com/chicago-stories/inside-the-tylenol-murders/who-committed-the-tylenol-murders?utm_source=chatgpt.com]. Accessed 22 Mar. 2026. Winny, Annalies. "The Evidence on Tylenol and Autism." Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, 7 October 2025, https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2025/the-evidence-on-tylenol-and-autism. Accessed 23 March 2026.