Talk Earthy To Me

Still Here: Five Species on The Edge

Last episode, we built the framework — the Endangered Species Act, the five drivers of extinction, and the policy shifts happening right now. Today, we meet the patients. Five to be exact. Each one maps to a different driver. Each one has a different kind of human pressure pushing it toward the edge — and a different kind of human effort trying to pull it back. The Endangered Species Act is not really about the animals. It's about us — what we've built, what we've consumed, what we've made too loud, too toxic, too warm, and too small. Tune in this week to meet the species! Cited Sources: McGrath, Matt. "Number of Earth's Species Tagged at 8.7 Million." BBC News, 23 Aug. 2011. Ritchie, Hannah. "How Many Species Are There?" Our World in Data, 30 Nov. 2022. World Wildlife Fund. "The IUCN Red List Categories Indicate How Close a Species Is to Becoming Extinct." WWF World Wildlife Fund. "Habitat Loss and Degradation." WWF Global International Rhino Foundation. "Black Rhino." Rhinos.org Wildlife Conservation Network. "Study Confirms Rhino Horn Has No Medicinal Value." Wildnet.org, 6 Nov. 2025. UCLA Newsroom. "Which Is Most Valuable — Gold, Cocaine, or Rhino Horn?" UCLA Newsroom Beaubien, Jason. "Some African Nations Say the Only Way to Protect Rhinos Is to Let People Buy Their Horns." NPR, 17 Jan. 2024. International Rhino Foundation. "Rhino Poaching." Rhinos.org Department of Forestry, Fisheries and the Environment, South Africa. "Minister Creecy Releases Rhino Poaching Statistics — 2024." DFFE, 27 Feb. 2024. Save the Rhino International. "Poaching Stats." Save the Rhino World Wildlife Fund. "Black Rhino." WWF Species Emslie, R. "Diceros bicornis." The IUCN Red List of Threatened Species, ver. 2020-1, e.T6557A152728945, International Union for Conservation of Nature, 2020. Environmental Investigation Agency. "Rhinos." EIA Milliken, Tom, and Jo Shaw. The South Africa–Viet Nam Rhino Horn Trade Nexus. TRAFFIC, 2012. NOAA Fisheries. "North Atlantic Right Whale Road to Recovery." NOAA Fisheries NOAA Fisheries. "North Atlantic Right Whale." NOAA Fisheries NOAA Fisheries. "North Atlantic Right Whale Calving Season 2026." NOAA Fisheries NOAA Fisheries. "Numbers in 2026: North Atlantic Right Whale Calving Season." NOAA Fisheries NOAA Fisheries. "North Atlantic Right Whales and the Dangers of Vessel Strikes and Entanglement." NOAA Fisheries, n.d. Earth Island Institute. "Fishing Gear Entanglement: North Atlantic Right Whale Protection." Earth Island Journal Kraus, Scott D., et al. "North Atlantic Right Whales in Crisis." Science, vol. 294, no. 5548, 2001, pp. 1844–1845. New England Aquarium. "Identifying Right Whales." Anderson Cabot Center for Ocean Life National Geographic. "Monarch Butterfly Migration." National Geographic Monarch Joint Venture. "Estimating the Number of Overwintering Monarchs in Mexico." Monarch Joint Venture, n.d. World Wildlife Fund. "Area of Forest Occupied by the Colonies of Monarch Butterflies in Mexico during the 2022–2023 Overwintering Period." WWF, 2023. Alliance for Science. "Monarch Butterfly Population Decline: Glyphosate and Milkweed." Alliance for Science, Aug. 2020. U.S. Geological Survey. "Billions More Milkweeds Needed to Restore Monarchs." USGS U.S. Department of the Interior. "Management of Wolves." DOI Office of Congressional and Legislative Affairs Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission. "Florida Manatee Facts and Information." MyFWC.com Prokupecz, Shimon, and Amanda Watts. "Florida Manatee Deaths Hit Record High in 2021." CBS News WUSF Public Media. "2022 Was the Second-Worst Year for Manatee Deaths, Florida Wildlife Agency Says." WUSF, 10 Jan. 2023. Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission. "Manatee Habitat." MyFWC.com Indian River Lagoon Species Inventory. "Seagrass Habitat." IRLspecies.org PBS. "Rhino Ops: Wild Hope." PBS Video, Hluhluwe-iMfolozi Park. Hluhluwe.org.za

On the List: The Endangered Species Act

You scrolled past the headline. So did I. But when I finally stopped to understand what the Endangered Species Act actually does — and what's quietly changing right now — I couldn't look away. This episode breaks down the ESA from the ground up: how the listing process works, why critical habitat designation is the law's most powerful tool, what recent rule changes have scientists genuinely alarmed, and what a 99% survival rate for listed species actually tells us. This one will change how you read wildlife headlines.  Works Cited Corn, M. Lynne, Kristina Alexander, and Betsy A. Cody. Endangered Species Act (ESA): The Exemption Process. Congressional Research Service, Report No. R40787, updated 2017. Defenders of Wildlife, Center for Conservation Innovation. "Overexploitation and Endangered Species." Defenders-CCI, n.d. (Fact sheet — cited twice in your list; appears once here) Demuth, Bathsheba. Floating Coast: An Environmental History of the Bering Strait. W. W. Norton & Company, 2019. "Endangered and Threatened Wildlife and Plants: Regulations for Designating Critical Habitat." Federal Register, vol. 90, no. 225, 21 Nov. 2025. IUCN. "Conservation Successes Overshadowed by More Species Declines — IUCN Red List Update." IUCN, n.d. IUCN. The IUCN Red List of Threatened Species. IUCN, n.d. Kareiva, Peter, et al. "Observed Impacts of Climate Change on Species' Range Shifts." Biological Conservation, vol. 190, 2015, pp. 1–9.  Marine Mammal Commission. The Effects of Noise on Marine Mammals. MMC, n.d. National Zoological Park, Smithsonian Institution. "Black-Footed Ferrets: Top Milestones for a Species Once Presumed Extinct." NationalZoo.si.edu, n.d. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration Fisheries. "Endangered Species Conservation." Fisheries.NOAA.gov, NOAA, n.d. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration Fisheries. "Section 7 Types of Endangered Species Act Consultations: Greater Atlantic Region." Fisheries.NOAA.gov, NOAA, n.d. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration Fisheries. Technical Memorandum: Guidance v3.0. NOAA, Oct. 2024. Nature Conservancy, The. "Flint Hills Initiative." Nature.org, The Nature Conservancy, n.d. Oregon Wild. Climate Change and Oregon's Wildlands: A Global Warming Report. Oregon Wild, 2024. Phys.org. "Climate a Growing Threat to Imperiled Species, Study Finds." Phys.org, Apr. 2025. Thomas, Chris D., et al. "Extinction Risk from Climate Change." PMC / Nature, 2004.  United States Department of the Interior. "America's Bald Eagle Population Continues to Soar." DOI.gov, n.d. United States Environmental Protection Agency. "DDT: A Brief History and Status." EPA.gov, EPA, n.d. United States Fish and Wildlife Service. "Bald Eagle (Haliaeetus leucocephalus)." FWS.gov, USFWS, n.d. United States Fish and Wildlife Service. "California Condor Recovery Program." FWS.gov, USFWS, n.d. United States Fish and Wildlife Service. Endangered Species Act Basics. USFWS, Feb. 2023. United States Fish and Wildlife Service. Endangered Species Act Consultation Handbook. USFWS, n.d. United States Fish and Wildlife Service. "ESA Section 7 Consultation." FWS.gov, USFWS, n.d. United States Fish and Wildlife Service. "Recovery Planning: 3-Part Recovery Planning Framework." FWS.gov, USFWS, n.d. United States Fish and Wildlife Service. "Section 4: Listing and Recovery." FWS.gov, USFWS, n.d. United States Government Publishing Office. "Endangered Species Act — 50th Anniversary." GovInfo.gov, GPO, n.d. United States Library of Congress, Congressional Research Service. The Endangered Species Act: Overview and Implementation. Report No. R46677, updated 2021. Wildlife Society, The. "Endangered Species Rules Rollback to 2019." Wildlife.org, The Wildlife Society, n.d. World Wildlife Fund. "Habitat Loss and Degradation." WWF Panda, WWF, n.d. Zipkin, Elise F., et al. "Impacts of Overexploitation on Biodiversity and Ecosystem Services." (PMC9796953) PLOS ONE / Conservation Biology, 2022–2023.

The Clock is Ticking

Utah is at a crossroads — and the deadline is June 2nd. Isabelle sits down with the people behind the Utah Renewable Communities Program (also called the Community Clean Energy Program) to break down what it is, why it matters, and why the next few weeks are critical. From Rocky Mountain Power's fossil fuel dependency to the lowest snowpack ever recorded in Utah's history, the stakes are real — and local. We're talking about what this program actually means for your energy bill, your community, and your mountains. If you live in one of the 19 eligible communities — including Park City, Oakley, Coalville, Ogden, and Salt Lake County — this one's for you. Action links & public comments→ linktr.ee/URCadoption Sources: Miranda, Luis. "Utah Renewable Communities Program." Sierra Club Utah, Sierra Club, sierraclub.org/utah. "Utah Renewable Communities Program." Utah Renewable Communities, utahrenewablecommunities.org. "HEAL Utah." HEAL Utah, healutah.org. "Stewardship Utah." Stewardship Utah, stewardshiputah.org. "URC Adoption Action Toolkit." Linktree, linktr.ee/URCadoption. "Summit County Votes to Join Clean Energy Program." TownLift, Apr. 2026. (Add the direct article URL from TownLift's site.) "Community Renewable Energy Act." Utah State Legislature, 2019. (Find the bill text at le.utah.gov and add the direct link.)

Free Living Made Easy (ft. Dana Grinnell)

We were sold a toxic life. Today, we're talking about taking it back. This episode covers the science behind everyday chemical exposure — what's in your skincare, your cleaning products, and your household dust — and why "clean" on a label doesn't mean what you think it does. Then you get to meet Talk Eathy To Me's first interview guest, Dana Grinnell, founder of Free Living Co., who built Park City's most trusted non-toxic product store. She is here to tell you the truth: you cannot trust the labels — but that doesn't mean living toxic-free has to be hard. She breaks down the everyday chemical exposures hiding in your favorite products and shows us how clean living can actually be simpler than we've been led to believe. If you are interested in upgrading to vetted non-toxic products, visit: www.freelivingco.co Cited Sources Bozza, Annalisa, et al. "Current Regulatory and Market Frameworks in Green Cosmetics: The Role of Certification." ScienceDirect, vol. 113, 2022. Cropper, Maureen, et al. "The Benefits of Removing Toxic Chemicals from Plastics." Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, vol. 121, no. 52, 16 Dec. 2024. Endocrine Society. "What EDCs Are: Common EDCs." Endocrine.org, Endocrine Society, n.d. Genuis, Stephen J., et al. "Human Excretion of Bisphenol A: Blood, Urine, and Sweat (BUS) Study." Journal of Environmental and Public Health, vol. 2012, 2012, article 185731. Genuis, Stephen J., et al. "Blood, Urine, and Sweat (BUS) Study: Monitoring and Elimination of Bioaccumulated Toxic Elements." Archives of Environmental Contamination and Toxicology, vol. 61, no. 2, 2011, pp. 344–357. Hook, Joshua N., et al. "Minimalism, Voluntary Simplicity, and Well-Being: A Systematic Review of the Empirical Literature." The Journal of Positive Psychology, vol. 18, no. 1, 25 Oct. 2021. Hook, Joshua N. "Why Money Can't Buy Happiness." JoshuaNHook.com, 1 May 2016. Kasser, Tim. "What Psychology Says About Materialism and the Holidays." American Psychological Association, APA, 16 Dec. 2014. Low Dog, Tieraona. DrLowDog.com. Tieraona Low Dog, MD, n.d. Low Dog, Tieraona. Works by Tieraona Low Dog. ThriftBooks.com, ThriftBooks, n.d. Mitro, Susanna D., et al. "Consumer Product Chemicals in Indoor Dust: A Quantitative Meta-Analysis of U.S. Studies." Environmental Science & Technology, vol. 50, no. 19, 4 Oct. 2016, pp. 10661–10672. Quinn Emanuel Urquhart & Sullivan, LLP. "Greenwashing Claims on the Rise: Avoiding Dirty Laundry." QuinnEmanuel.com, Quinn Emanuel, n.d. Srisathan, Wutthiya, and Naruetharadhol. "Perceived Greenwashing and Its Impact on Consumer Behavior in the Cosmetic Industry." Cleaner and Responsible Consumption, vol. 16, 2025. Trasande, Leonardo, et al. "Chemicals Used in Plastic Materials: An Estimate of the Attributable Disease Burden and Costs in the United States." Journal of the Endocrine Society, vol. 8, no. 2, 11 Jan. 2024. United States Environmental Protection Agency. "Overview of Endocrine Disruption." EPA.gov, EPA, n.d. United States Environmental Protection Agency. "Volatile Organic Compounds' Impact on Indoor Air Quality." EPA.gov, EPA, n.d. United States Food and Drug Administration. "Cosmetics Safety Q&A: Prohibited Ingredients." FDA.gov, FDA, n.d. United States National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences. "Endocrine Disruptors." NIEHS.gov, NIH, July 2024. World Economic Forum. "Sustainable Resource Consumption Is Urgent, Says the UN." WEForum.org, World Economic Forum, Mar. 2024. Zimmermann, Laura, et al. "Are We Speaking the Same Language? Recommendations for a Definition and Categorization Framework for Plastic Debris." Environmental Science & Technology, 2020.

One Thing Led to Another: The Hidden Chain Reactions of Disasters

I've spent a lot of time on natural disasters. This will be our final deep dive, and then I will leave disasters out of your feed for a while. Although I've been sharing a lot about the issues, I have a reason for doing an extensive breakdown of each system. It was to truly show you and prove that we can feel climate change and this climate crisis very differently depending on where we are in this world. So please never forget these disasters are trying to tell us something important, and now it’s our turn to listen. So tune into this week's episode on cascading disasters! Cited Sources "A California Town Wiped Off the Map by Wildfire Is Still Recovering, Five Years On." NPR, 8 Nov. 2023. "After Fire, Rain: Wildfire Burn Scars Can Trigger Deadly Debris Flows." PreventionWeb. Alexander, David, and Gianluca Pescaroli. "What Are Cascading Disasters?" UCL Open Environment, 8 Aug. 2019. "As the Horn of Africa Drought Enters a Sixth Failed Rainy Season, UNHCR Calls for Urgent Assistance." UNHCR, United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees. "Climate Change and Displacement." UNHCR. "Climate Change Could Force 216 Million People to Migrate Within Their Own Countries by 2050." The World Bank, 13 Sept. 2021. "Deadly Debris Flows in Montecito." NASA Earth Observatory, NASA. "Evacuations Were Botched During the Deadliest Fire in California History. Here's What One Local Sheriff Learned." Los Angeles Times, 25 Feb. 2025. "The Benefit-Cost Analysis Toolkit." Federal Emergency Management Agency. "FEMA Mitigation Saves: 2018 Fact Sheet." Federal Emergency Management Agency, 2018. Fire in Paradise. Directed by Ramona Diaz and Elivia Melodia, WGBH/Frontline, PBS, 2019. "From Billions to Trillions: Flagship UN Report Reveals True Cost of Disasters and How to Reduce Them." UNDRR, 28 May 2025. Global Climate Risk Index 2022. Germanwatch, 2022. Global Hunger Index 2022. Welthungerhilfe and Concern Worldwide, 2022. "Heavy Rains Hit Drought-Stricken Horn of Africa." NASA Earth Observatory, NASA. "Horn of Africa Drought Explained." Concern USA. "Infrastructure: The Hidden Architecture of Disaster." Phys.org, Jan. 2026. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. Sixth Assessment Report, Working Group II: Impacts, Adaptation and Vulnerability. IPCC, 2022. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. Special Report on the Ocean and Cryosphere in a Changing Climate, Chapter 6. IPCC, 2019. "Is Climate Change Increasing the Risk of Disasters?" World Wildlife Fund. Mahul, Olivier, et al. "Pakistan Flood Damages and Economic Losses Over USD 30 Billion and Reconstruction Needs Over USD 16 Billion." The World Bank, 28 Oct. 2022. "Montecito Mudslides: Two Years Later." California Governor's Office of Emergency Services, 2020. National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine. Compound Effects of Floods and Earthquakes, Chapter 3. National Academies Press. "National Climate Assessments." Southeast Climate Adaptation Science Center, NC State University, 14 July 2025. "New Study Finds That 43,000 'Excess Deaths' May Have Occurred in 2022 from the Drought in Somalia." UNICEF, 20 Mar. 2023. Oliver, Thomas H., et al. "Cascading Hazards and Compound Disasters." npj Natural Hazards, Nature Portfolio, 9 Feb. 2026. "Soil Health." Natural Resources Conservation Service, United States Department of Agriculture. "Somalia's Humanitarian Crisis Worsening: 6.5 Million People Facing High Levels of Hunger." United Nations Somalia, 2023. Tanoue, Masahiro, et al. "Estimation of Direct and Indirect Economic Losses Caused by a Flood With Long-Lasting Inundation: Application to the 2011 Thailand Flood." Water Resources Research, vol. 56, no. 5, 2020. "Water-Smart Green Roofs and Plazas Are Helping Rotterdam Adapt to Climate Change." Global Center on Adaptation. "Why Are Wetlands Important?" United States Environmental Protection Agency.