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That Doesn't Go in the Book - Professor C. Paul Rogers III

Professor C. Paul Rogers III has spent more than four decades shaping lawyers, preserving baseball history, mentoring students, navigating college athletics, and collecting stories that somehow sound too good to be true — except they are. In this episode of Counsel Brew, Nicola and Shereen sit down with one of the most beloved and legendary figures from SMU Dedman School of Law just as he prepares to retire at the end of the semester after an extraordinary career. Both Nicola and Shereen recently attended Professor Rogers’ final lecture at SMU, making this episode especially meaningful for two former students who were lucky enough to learn from him firsthand. Professor Rogers’ formative years stretched from Wyoming and West Texas to the East Coast before he eventually landed at the University of Texas at Austin during the chaos and culture shifts of the late 1960s. He shares the unlikely path that led him into law, academia, and eventually into becoming one of the defining figures in SMU law school history. Along the way, he reflects on lessons learned working the graveyard shift in Vegas, realizing small-town life was not for him, and how a letter to a professor opened the door to a life-changing opportunity at Columbia Law School that launched his academic career and ultimately brought him to Dallas.  The conversation is packed with hilarious stories and classic Professor Rogers moments — including the infamous Playboy Bunny classroom interruption, students arriving to class in full costume presentations, bad margaritas at the AAC, and the reality that some of the best career advice boils down to one simple lesson: if you want something, you actually have to do something.  But beneath the humor is the story of a professor who genuinely loves teaching, deeply values his students, and never stopped learning. In this episode, Professor Rogers reflects on the evolution of legal education over the decades and the importance of mentorship and relationships in the practice of law. Along the way, the conversation wanders through baseball history, vintage baseball cards, West Texas sports culture, and the continuing importance of a properly made margarita. An accomplished scholar, former dean, NCAA leader, baseball historian, published author, and mentor to generations of lawyers, Professor Rogers leaves behind an extraordinary legacy at SMU Dedman School of Law — though after hearing this episode, “retirement” sounds a lot more like a new chapter than a final inning. Grab your favorite brew and join us for a conversation full of wisdom, humor, and unforgettable stories with the incomparable Professor C. Paul Rogers III. Listen now:   Find Professor C. Paul Rogers at https://www.linkedin.com/in/c-paul-rogers-iii-5936ab45/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/c-paul-rogers-iii-5936ab45/] Find Professor Rogers last lecture at https://youtu.be/jM1vt-btYv8?si=e6UL2d88weJUEsNj [https://youtu.be/jM1vt-btYv8?si=e6UL2d88weJUEsNj] Message us at hello@counselbrew.com [hello@counselbrew.com]   Visit us at http://www.counselbrew.com [http://www.counselbrew.com]  And Follow us  @counselbrew [https://www.instagram.com/counselbrew/] https://www.linkedin.com/company/counsel-brew/ [https://www.linkedin.com/company/counsel-brew/] Send us Fan Mail [https://www.buzzsprout.com/2364055/fan_mail/new]  Explicit Rating is for the occasional use of colorful language.

To Do F/U - Gabe Vazquez

This conversation covers a lot of ground. From exploding matcha to stepping into leadership before you feel ready, Gabe keeps it real about what it looks like to operate under pressure. In this episode of Counsel Brew, we sit down with Gabe Vazquez, Vice President and Associate General Counsel at Vistra Corp., to talk less about titles and more about how he works. His approach is simple on the surface. Gather. Organize. Optimize. Build the system. Trust the system. Then know when it’s time to throw it out. And yes, there’s a checklist or two in the mix. Gabe guides us through how he thinks about productivity, including his very real commitment to the to-do list. If it’s on the list, it’s getting done. If it’s not, it’s probably getting added just so it can be checked off. And yes, that includes a running list of F/U reminders. Follow-up, technically. Stepping into leadership early. Managing people with more experience. Navigating situations where there is no clean answer and no time to overthink it. No playbook. Just judgment, trust, and a willingness to move. When things go sideways, whether it’s a major weather event or an operational crisis, the focus shifts quickly. Not perfect answers. The right people in the room. Clear heads. Forward movement. As Gabe puts it, it’s go time. What makes the conversation work is the balance. Discipline, but flexibility. Structure, but self-awareness. And just enough humor to admit that even the best systems don’t always survive contact with real life. There’s also the matcha. Gabe is fully committed and does his best to convince us we’d like it if we just gave it a real shot. We remain unconvinced. Listen now.   Find Gabe at https://www.linkedin.com/in/gabevazquez/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/gabevazquez/] Message us at hello@counselbrew.com [hello@counselbrew.com]   Visit us at http://www.counselbrew.com [http://www.counselbrew.com]  And Follow us  @counselbrew [https://www.instagram.com/counselbrew/] https://www.linkedin.com/company/counsel-brew/ [https://www.linkedin.com/company/counsel-brew/] Send us Fan Mail [https://www.buzzsprout.com/2364055/fan_mail/new]  Explicit Rating is for the occasional use of colorful language.

Y'all Build Different - Jasmin Brand

Jasmin Brand doesn’t just build businesses. She builds ecosystems. An award-winning marketer, speaker, and serial entrepreneur, Jasmin has made a career out of doing what most people just dream about: creating strategic partnerships, unlocking opportunity, and moving communities forward in real, measurable ways. Born and raised in Dallas, with roots at Booker T. Washington and Southern Methodist University, Jasmin’s path has never been linear. From launching her first creative agency in 2009 to stepping into the startup world and eventually founding HerTexas, she has consistently followed one instinct: build what is missing. Not what is trendy. Not what is safe. But what is needed. And when the startup bro culture did not fit for her, she didn’t shrink. She pivoted, recalibrated, and built something better.  Enter HerTexas, a statewide platform that started as a casual connection and evolved into a movement focused on economic impact, not just networking. Jasmin is laser-focused on one thing. If you are bringing women together, it better do something. That mindset led to initiatives like Fork & Femme, where the ask is simple but powerful: show up, spend money at women-owned businesses, and track the impact. No fluff. Just dollars, data, and real results, with tens of thousands in a single day and growing.  What makes Jasmin stand out is not just what she has built, but how she thinks. She is unapologetically direct, deeply intentional, and constantly evolving. She talks openly about designing your own career, rejecting boxes others have tried to put her in, and staying open to opportunity, even when it does not look like the plan. Whether she is leading innovation for an organization, mentoring the next generation, or challenging what supporting women actually means, Jasmin operates with a level of clarity and conviction that is hard to ignore. Also: hot coffee only, no ghost tours, and absolutely no patience for performative support. If you are going to show up, show up with purpose. We hope you enjoy!! Listen now!   Find Jasmine at  https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasminbrand/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasminbrand/] Find Her Texas at  https://www.linkedin.com/company/hertexas/ [https://www.linkedin.com/company/hertexas/] https://linktr.ee/hertexas [https://linktr.ee/hertexas] https://www.instagram.com/hertexasco/ [https://www.instagram.com/hertexasco/] Fork & Femme $100K Spring Challenge  is April 22, 2026 - Register and track your spend at women owned businesses here: Fork & Femme 100K Spring Challenge Tickets, Wednesday, April 22  •  6:30 AM - 11:30 PM | Eventbrite [https://www.eventbrite.com/e/fork-femme-100k-spring-challenge-tickets-1932767532719?aff=oddtdtcreator] Message us at hello@counselbrew.com [hello@counselbrew.com]   Visit us at http://www.counselbrew.com [http://www.counselbrew.com]  And Follow us  @counselbrew [https://www.instagram.com/counselbrew/] https://www.linkedin.com/company/counsel-brew/ [https://www.linkedin.com/company/counsel-brew/] Send us Fan Mail [https://www.buzzsprout.com/2364055/fan_mail/new]  Explicit Rating is for the occasional use of colorful language.

Pivot Play - Kathy Wise

Fifty episodes in and we have started to recognize a pattern: the most interesting people don’t follow straight lines—they pivot, rebuild, and end up somewhere better. Enter Kathy Wise. A former attorney turned award-winning journalist, Kathy is now the Editorial Director of D Magazine and the founder of MÄHJ the Magazine, a quarterly mahjong publication that’s equal parts culture, connection, and beautifully curated storytelling. But before all of that, Kathy was in the trenches of legal practice doing the work, winning the cases, and ultimately realizing that success doesn’t mean much if it costs you everything else. So she walked. What followed wasn’t a neat, pre-planned transition. It was a leap that was sparked by her instinct, sharpened by her experience, and ultimately rewarded Kathy with a career built on curiosity, storytelling, and a willingness to chase what actually feels right. In this episode, we cover: * Texas State Fair cake judging * How a chance connection through her therapist led her into publishing * Building a career at D Magazine  * The launch of MÄHJ the Magazine, a quarterly release inspired by the winds and seasons of mahjong, designed to connect a fragmented global community * Safari coffee (instant, unapologetic, and apparently amazing) * Why mahjong isn’t just a game Kathy has written about everything from wrongful convictions to pickleball to drag racing. Her writing is always about people and the stories worth telling.  And for our 50th episode, we are pretty excited to tell part of hers.  👉 Listen now:   Find Kathy at  https://www.linkedin.com/in/kathy-wise-5b8b4340/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/kathy-wise-5b8b4340/] Explore more of Kathy’s work: https://www.dmagazine.com/writers/kathy-wise/page/3 [https://www.dmagazine.com/writers/kathy-wise/page/3] How to subscribe to MÄHJ the Magazine https://mahj.com/products/mahj-magazine [https://mahj.com/products/mahj-magazine] Message us at hello@counselbrew.com [hello@counselbrew.com]   Visit us at http://www.counselbrew.com [http://www.counselbrew.com]  And Follow us  @counselbrew [https://www.instagram.com/counselbrew/] https://www.linkedin.com/company/counsel-brew/ [https://www.linkedin.com/company/counsel-brew/] Send us Fan Mail [https://www.buzzsprout.com/2364055/fan_mail/new]  Explicit Rating is for the occasional use of colorful language.

Between Innings - Eunice Nakamura

On this episode of Counsel Brew, we sit down with Eunice Nakamura, Senior Vice President and General Counsel of the Texas Rangers, for a conversation that proves the path to a dream role rarely follows the plan you laid out for yourself. Eunice didn’t set out to work in professional sports. Like many lawyers, she started with a clear plan—be a litigator, build the career, hit the milestones. But along the way, a secondment with the Rangers, a move in-house, leadership roles across industries, and the relationships she built over the years quietly set the stage for an opportunity that would eventually bring her back to baseball in a much bigger way leading to her own personal homerun.  While serving as General Counsel at Susan G. Komen, Eunice was diagnosed with breast cancer herself, an experience that completely reframed how she thinks about ambition, priorities, and what defines success. Today, she leads the legal function for one of Major League Baseball’s most recognizable teams while also navigating life as a baseball mom to a travel player who had very strong opinions about whether she should take the Rangers job. And because no Counsel Brew conversation stays entirely on script, we also cover: * why Eunice still does multiplication in Korean * her quest to recreate the perfect Japanese coffee machine experience at home * the unmatched luxury of Toto toilets, and * why the best career advice might come from the valleys, not the peaks. Eunice brings thoughtfulness, perspective, and a sense of humor to this conversation emphasizing that the careers we’re most proud of are often built through relationships, resilience, and a willingness to embrace the unexpected. Grab your favorite brew (almond milk latte, if you’re taking Eunice’s recommendation) and join us for Episode 49. 👉 Listen now:   Find Eunice at https://www.linkedin.com/in/eunicenakamura/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/eunicenakamura/] Message us at hello@counselbrew.com [hello@counselbrew.com]   Visit us at http://www.counselbrew.com [http://www.counselbrew.com]  And Follow us  @counselbrew [https://www.instagram.com/counselbrew/] https://www.linkedin.com/company/counsel-brew/ [https://www.linkedin.com/company/counsel-brew/] Send us Fan Mail [https://www.buzzsprout.com/2364055/fan_mail/new]  Explicit Rating is for the occasional use of colorful language.